The Curious Brainwashing Case of ...

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Well, if you want to abandon your own topic, you can't be very happy about how it's going.

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I am not married to anything or any topic. If you care to converse I can do that but it is very apparent that you are more interested in other things.

So, where does that leave us?

Talk to me normally the way you do to anyone else - you will get normal responses. Hide behind your little game of - "let's make fun of this...or let's play games for fun" and those are the responses you get.

So, where does that leave us?

It leaves us here.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Use your definition of happiness.

Are you happy most of the time?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

It leaves us here.

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I'll humor you - even though - serious conversations are foreign to you -


Happiness is our true state - the way we came into the world.

How can you get something you already have? Why don't some people not feel this "state of happiness?" Because they are too busy responding to their program to see it/feel it/taste it.

Happiness is there - our natural state - humans put labels on the reality around them - and call it "happiness" "sadness"

A mystic (not me -since I am asleep like all of us) would not answer that question because he wouldn't understand what this labeling of reality is - he would probably just smile since the word "happiness" is something that no one can really describe. True happiness - not that "thrill fulfillment" that humans label "happiness"

Since I stupidly answered it confirms I am no "mystic" just another sleeping person no different than you.

Waiting for your answers to what I asked after you asked this.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

I'll humor you - even though - serious conversations are foreign to you -


Happiness is our true state - the way we came into the world.

How can you get something you already have? Why don't some people not feel this "state of happiness?" Because they are too busy responding to their program to see it/feel it/taste it.

Happiness is there - our natural state - humans put labels on the reality around them - and call it "happiness" "sadness"

A mystic (not me -since I am asleep like all of us) would not answer that question because he wouldn't understand what this labeling of reality is - he would probably just smile since the word "happiness" is something that no one can really describe. True happiness - not that "thrill fulfillment" that humans label "happiness"

Since I stupidly answered it confirms I am no "mystic" just another sleeping person no different than you.

Waiting for your answers to what I asked after you asked this.

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I'm still waiting for you to answer my question.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Use your definition of happiness.

Are you happy most of the time?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Happiness is our true state - the way we came into the world.

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You're a nudist?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I'm still waiting for you to answer my question.

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Well, I tried.

You missed it.

Can't answer if we have different definitions of "happiness"

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Well, I tried.

You missed it.

Can't answer if we have different definitions of "happiness"

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You answered for the mystics.

Why would you speak for them, but you won't speak for Jesus?

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Originally Posted by Blake

You answered for the mystics.

Why would you speak for them, but you won't speak for Jesus?

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Because I humored you and acquiesced to your demands--or in other words- I had another moment of blindness. This is what sleeping humans do. They try to break away from their brainwashing - but they relapse - over and over and over-

they probably won't ever break completely free - but they will do their best.

Or - never recognize it in the first place and just sleepwalk through life -and die - never having woken up. Quite a tragedy.

Not the death - but the dying without ever living.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Because I humored you and acquiesced to your demands--or in other words- I had another moment of blindness. This is what sleeping humans do. They try to break away from their brainwashing - but they relapse - over and over and over-

they probably won't ever break completely free - but they will do their best.

Or - never recognize it in the first place and just sleepwalk through life -and die - never having woken up. Quite a tragedy.

Not the death - but the dying without ever living.

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So you think you know the truth, I'm asking for the truth, and to you, it was a mistake to tell me the truth.

Why is selfishness part of being awake?

And why is never waking up automatically a tragedy?

You haven't given any reason to think that ignorance really isn't complete bliss.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Well, I tried.

You missed it.

Can't answer if we have different definitions of "happiness"

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Use your definition of happiness.

Are you happy most of the time?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by Blake

So you think you know the truth, I'm asking for the truth, and to you, it was a mistake to tell me the truth.

??We all have truth inside - but it is buried under layers and layers and layers of programming, false beliefs, etc...I - like anyone else - have the same basic problem of blindness -due to all the mentioned - so I might have only glimpsed at truth every blue moon and then it was buried again --or I put my brain back to sleep again....I eradicated a lot of programming --but so much of it remains.
??Pretty self-evident once you start trying to de-program yourself and can be brutally honest about it.

Why is selfishness part of being awake?

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??So much blindness here. We would have to break down what sleeping humans label "selfishness" compared to what reality is. We would have to break down (again) what being awake is.

??Lots and lots and lots of work - but no one said it was easy. Round and round and round...wouldn't it be easier to tell me what things do you believe a human being cannot be happy without -either generally --or you personally?

??Then we could break down how humans arrived at the belief that you need certain things to be happy - when happiness is already there.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

??So much blindness here. We would have to break down what sleeping humans label "selfishness" compared to what reality is. We would have to break down (again) what being awake is.

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no, the definition stands in any reality.

If you have something that you can give to someone else to help them but you don't, you're selfish.

There is no spinning it.

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[COLOR=#ff0000]?Lots and lots and lots of work - but no one said it was easy. Round and round and round...wouldn't it be easier to tell me what things do you believe a human being cannot be happy without -either generally --or you personally?

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No it wouldn't.

It would be easier for you to state your personal idea of happiness.

How many followers do you have so far, sbm? Will you wait until a comet flies by the earth to commit suicide, or do you have another event planned?

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Originally Posted by Blake

no, the definition stands in any reality.

If you have something that you can give to someone else to help them but you don't, you're selfish.

??So much wrong here. Who is being selfish in this scenario-- the person who is demanding to be given something?
??Or the person who is not controlled by any selfish demands others might place on him because of their brainwashing? It is a very complicated topic all by itself.

There is no spinning it.

??Yet, this is exactly what sleeping humans have done for centuries....it goes like this...
??"If you give me your time and never go with another person-- this will make ME happy. If you should not comply with this demand - -then you are a SELFISH BASTARD --because you CHEATED!!!! You selfish bastard -- you decided to live your life on your code, using YOUR agenda, and doing what makes YOU happy!!! What a selfish bastard. Taken for granted in a lunatic asylum!!!!



No it wouldn't.

It would be easier for you to state your personal idea of happiness.

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Originally Posted by Woo Bum-kon

How many followers do you have so far, sbm? Will you wait until a comet flies by the earth to commit suicide, or do you have another event planned?

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Hey, Woo, buddy - how did you sleep? All good.

sshhh no one tell him


:lmao

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

So much wrong here. Who is being selfish in this scenario-- the person who is demanding to be given something?

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Both are selfish.

But I'm not really demanding it myself because I already know the truth:

You're a loon. #callingspadeaspade

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Hey, Woo, buddy - how did you sleep? All good.

sshhh no one tell him


:lmao

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According to the rules of your own Fucky Freddy story, since Woo broke through the early catholic indoctrination, he's wide awake.

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Originally Posted by Blake

According to the rules of your own Fucky Freddy story, since Woo broke through the early catholic indoctrination, he's wide awake.

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Asked and answered a few pages back - the young Woo -- substituted one addiction for another - nothing new here. This is what is called re-arranging the furniture.

You think you can't live without one drug - so you give it up violently (which ties you to it forever) and you get addicted to another drug/another belief/another title/another political party/a new girl/whatever...

Re-arranging the furniture - you are stil blind - still brainwashed into thinking you need those drugs to be "successful"

Success- there is a biggie- another thread for another day.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Asked and answered a few pages back - the young Woo -- substituted one addiction for another - nothing new here. This is what is called re-arranging the furniture.

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No he didn't. He's still asking you questions regarding truth, which implies an open mind.

You, otoh, are ending all of your sentences in narrow/close minded periods.

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Originally Posted by Blake

No he didn't. He's still asking you questions regarding truth, which implies an open mind.


??Here is his latest - "open minded" question;

How many followers do you have so far, sbm? Will you wait until a comet flies by the earth to commit suicide, or do you have another event planned?



??Oh THAT'S what you mean by open minded. Glad we specified what we are talking about here. :lmao

You, otoh, are ending all of your sentences in narrow/close minded periods.

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You dodge the topic questions he asked and would rather cry about how mean is to you.

your thin skinned butt is still programmed for hurt.

Wake up.

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Originally Posted by Blake

You dodge the topic questions he asked and would rather cry about how mean is to you.

your thin skinned butt is still programmed for hurt.

Wake up.

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Nope.

I posted the example of Woo's program to explain how brainwashing works.

You can lead a woo to water - you can't force him to drink. I thought you only carried Chumpie's jock...suddenly you are Woo's assistant to the assistant?

Interesting.

You never answered.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Use your definition of happiness.

Are you happy most of the time?

Yes or no.

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You can ask for help if you need it.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Nope.

I posted the example of Woo's program to explain how brainwashing works.

You can lead a woo to water - you can't force him to drink. I thought you only carried Chumpie's jock...suddenly you are Woo's assistant to the assistant?

Interesting.

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Nope. Just calling a spade a spade and an idiot a fucking idiot.