The Curious Brainwashing Case of ...

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

http://www.politablog.com/wp-content...=300&zc=1&q=90

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:rollin:rollin

The severity of memeboy's meltdown is directly proportional to the number of memes he posts.

Bonus points when he repeats them in other forums.

:lmao

^chumpie doesn't really believe that but he is trying to convince himself^

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

^chumpie doesn't really believe that but he is trying to convince himself^

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:lmao He knows that we know that he just begged for mercy, again...it was code for "please dont embarrass me more in the club!!" :lmao

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

^chumpie doesn't really believe that but he is trying to convince himself^

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Of course it's true.

Maybe you didn't mean to shit on SA210, but there it is.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Are there any movies made about trolls like me?

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http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...27/040/787.jpg

Made pussy troll chump run off, again. He'll come in when the coast is clear..rinse, repeat :lmao

lol followed me into the other forum to continue your meltdown, then tried to declare victory here

Post some more memes.

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Originally Posted by SA210

Made pussy troll chump run off, again. He'll come in when the coast is clear..rinse, repeat :lmao

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^^ I called it :lmao

The coast was clear two minutes after you posted?

lol reaching

^^^ No, the coast was clear a few minutes after you saw that I logged off. You fell for another one butthurt boy. You never saw it coming :lmao

Now you will lie about it..but it won't work, it will never work :rollinWhat a moron

lol you are trying to project your obsessive tracking onto me

lol clear coast

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

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Ok, fell asleep on page 13, got up this morning and read where the pissing contests had pretty much taken over the thread, mingled between Austin places to eat.

I have some questions and some comments, but first I would like to know if it is worth it for me to read the rest from page 13 to here?

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Ok, fell asleep on page 13, got up this morning and read where the pissing contests had pretty much taken over the thread, mingled between Austin places to eat.

I have some questions and some comments, but first I would like to know if it is worth it for me to read the rest from page 13 to here?

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Not really - once you read where Woo's brain gets programmed -

the rest is just butthurt coming from trolls and insults returned.

The important truths are in Pt 1, Pt 2, and the Woo re-programming like the movie - Sunshine of the something mind....lol.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Oh right!

Mum's the word. :oops

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You weren't supposed to say anything, damn! Ssshhh. :lol

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Not really - once you read where Woo's brain gets programmed -

the rest is just butthurt coming from trolls and insults returned.

The important truths are in Pt 1, Pt 2, and the Woo re-programming like the movie - Sunshine of the something mind....lol.

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Ok, then I was intrigued with the questions to you about your own current % of where you were and others were on the path and their relation to true mystics.
You denied your own ability to maintain a constant state of happiness in those rare moments when you are able to get through the brainwashings.

Pardon my typing, I use an iPad and sometimes it has a mind of its own, thus the need to edit. Always go back and read my thread a second time, that way I have had the chance to do a proper edit. :lol

If anyone wants to they can go to Amazon and google mysticism, Gnosticism, metaphysics, etc. and be shown many books old and new on this subject. Many of those authors could easily be considered mystics, and they constantly reference other mystics in their books.

I don't like using the word "mystic" because of the derogatory significance it has gotten over the years, and it tends to taint or at least slant the discussion to areas of ridicule. To admit you are mystical is different than admitting you are a mystic per say, there is an ego connotation there that some would confuse as one of superiority, so you have to be careful.
But for lack of a better word, I will use it, unless I can come up with a better one. :lol

Anyway, IMHO a true mystic may not even be aware that that is indeed what he/she is, or if they are aware, they may not know where on the path they are simply because no one really knows exactly how the dimension of time affects ones ability to differentiate from one moment of clear lucidity (absence of brainwashing) to the next. It would seem to me that when one is in that true state of clarity, and the longer one can maintain it, then time would possibly cease to be a factor.
Just an idea to ponder over.

Also, to deny that one is a mystic is not a bad thing in favor of simply saying you are on the path (back to that negative connotation the word "mystic" has). But I don't think it can be denied that when one is actively trying to expunge the brainwashing in order to get to the Truth, then he is doing the work of mysticism. So in that respect we are all mystics whenever we endeavor to get past our prior programming i.e. brainwashing. How far we have traveled this path is another discussion because that means we need to define what exactly the "path" is, linear, circular, affects of time, etc. before we can determine our particular placements. Does that make sense? Or is it just hypothetical babble? :lol
My point is, for the sake of the discussion IMHO, we are all on the path in one form or another, and at one point or another.

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Ok, then I was intrigued with the questions to you about your own current % of where you were and others were on the path and their relation to true mystics.
You denied your own ability to maintain a constant state of happiness in those rare moments when you are able to get through the brainwashings.

Pardon my typing, I use an iPad and sometimes it has a mind of its own, thus the need to edit. Always go back and read my thread a second time, that way I have had the chance to do a proper edit. :lol

If anyone wants to they can go to Amazon and google mysticism, Gnosticism, metaphysics, etc. and be shown many books old and new on this subject. Many of those authors could easily be considered mystics, and they constantly reference other mystics in their books.

I don't like using the word "mystic" because of the derogatory significance it has gotten over the years, and it tends to taint or at least slant the discussion to areas of ridicule. To admit you are mystical is different than admitting you are a mystic per say, there is an ego connotation there that some would confuse as one of superiority, so you have to be careful.
But for lack of a better word, I will use it, unless I can come up with a better one. :lol

Anyway, IMHO a true mystic may not even be aware that that is indeed what he/she is, or if they are aware, they may not know where on the path they are simply because no one really knows exactly how the dimension of time affects ones ability to differentiate from one moment of clear lucidity (absence of brainwashing) to the next. It would seem to me that when one is in that true state of clarity, and the longer one can maintain it, then time would possibly cease to be a factor.
Just an idea to ponder over.

Also, to deny that one is a mystic is not a bad thing in favor of simply saying you are on the path (back to that negative connotation the word "mystic" has). But I don't think it can be denied that when one is actively trying to expunge the brainwashing in order to get to the Truth, then he is doing the work of mysticism. So in that respect we are all mystics whenever we endeavor to get past our prior programming i.e. brainwashing. How far we have traveled this path is another discussion because that means we need to define what exactly the "path" is, linear, circular, affects of time, etc. before we can determine our particular placements. Does that make sense? Or is it just hypothetical babble? :lol
My point is, for the sake of the discussion IMHO, we are all on the path in one form or another, and at one point or another.

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I think you are right on the money. Pretty much why I always say I am no different than anyone - what else would you expect from a brainwashed person? :lol
Of course - this gets misinterpreted into "you are a hypocrite"

Some mystics say that eternal life - is this moment!

I have read where a mystic was described this way -

When you are on the verge of going insane raving mad - when you are on the edge of lunacy - you are either going to fall off the edge and go insane -

or you become a mystic.

I think I am more on the lunatic side - with a sprinkling or a brief peek into the mystic world.

If this was a different place I could tell you stories about being lost among the redwoods of northern california or the lost nights in big sur cali - but this might only confirm my lunacy! :lol

Just got back from lunch.

I will respectfully disagree with you about your feelings of being a lunatic simply because IMHO I don't think a lunatic could come up with these ideas, and especially be able to elucidate them with the clarity that you have.

Yes, the skeptics will come out in droves and do their usual thing in attempting to discredit your discourse for a myriad of reasons, but even so, it does not invalidate it, all that does is verify how controversial it is. That is to be expected. The truth is real truth can come from anywhere, at anytime, from anything. You have to expect criticism when talking about something like this, but if you are courageous enough to bring it up, then you also have to be willing to fade the heat, and stick to your guns, resist being sidetracked, and laugh at your own folly.

That is why I caution you to not be afraid to admit that you are on a mystical path even though you still possess many of the faults that most all of us have. This journey is an extremely subjective one, so it will be different for each person as each of us discover our true identities as well as our true realities. Yes, I said reality in the pluralistic tense.

IMHO when we get those glimpses of our personal reality beyond our brainwashing, then who is to say how much of that reality is commonly shared, especially since the concept of reality defies definition and thus explanation. There are no reference points to compare it with. For each individual, there is a reality, some of which is shared, and some of which isn't shared.

Since how a person feels, and conceives that he is, at any given point in time, that is his particular reality, and at any given point in time. That reality appears differently when seen through the unveiled eyes of someone when they are free of brainwashing, for however long that experience lasts, or however long the mystic can maintain it, rather than how it appears while in the brainwashed state, which IMHO is the majority of our lives.

Thus reality is mutable, it changes, depending upon our perceptions.
That is why another indisputable Truth is "change".
Thus, reality is continually in a state of flux.

We can easily say that reality is common for all regardless of what we think and feel, but does that make it so, just because we say it is? That is the same as saying that all reality is objective in nature and can be explained, but who knows this for sure? No one.

There is another thing that needs to be considered with respect to reality, and that is "free will". Many mystics believe that free will is the same as the power of creation in that each and every thought that we have is the vehicle we use to shape and create our own personal subjective reality, and this vehicle is amplified by emotion, and finally by the spoken word.

In other words, not only are you able to create your own realities by imagining it, but you also give it impetus by feeling the truth of it, and even more by speaking it. We are creating reality each and every moment of our lives. And if it is done under the brainwashed state, then it comes with all the BS and imperfections part and parcel. This would explain most of the ills in the world, the terrible things that happen to some people, and not to others.

Free will comes with a tremendous responsibility in that one needs to censure their thoughts, feelings, and words, otherwise they can literally create their own hell on earth especially if they are under the spell of brainwashing and thus creating their own reality imperfectly.

Ok, I expect to be slammed on this, so have at it. I only hope I am somehow up to the task of explaining this, to all the nay sayers especially since these concepts are for the most part inexplicable.

Special powers in ability to sense butt-hurt.
Lots of olfactory practice, not a good thing.
Lota butt sniffing by our resident experts on all things anal.

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Yes, the skeptics will come out in droves and do their usual thing in attempting to discredit your discourse for a myriad of reasons, but even so, it does not invalidate it, all that does is verify how controversial it is.

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One of the lamer controversies here.

In our attempts to explain reality there are many theories coming out of string theory in science these days. The superstring theory, the Multiverse theory, and the parallel universe theory are just a few, and backed up by mathematics.

That last one posits that any given person can exist at the same time in more than one place. If we were somehow able to tap into the power to travel to these other universes then we would be able to theoretically "meet" our other selves. And since there are an infinite number of universes, then there are an infinite number of ourselves. We may be a doctor here, a trash collector there, that is an infinite number of us doing an infinite number of things.

In other words, there are an infinite number of Chumps and an infinite number of SBMs, :lol doing an infinite number of things with each other and an infinite number of things separate from each other, in some they do not even know each other, in others they are good friends, while in others they even be related to each other, or are arguing with each other like they are here.

This is a further example of how "realities" are mutable, and as yet only theorized about.
As the mystic is better able to maintain his understanding that he is forever in the "now" and thus erase his brainwashing, then his reality is the knowing that he is creating as he creates, rather than being unaware of his haphazard brainwashed creating.

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Originally Posted by Blake

There's no controversy here.

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I also forgot to mention that there are an infinite number of Blake's too, just like Mouse says in an infinite number of cubicles doing an infinite number of things. In one you are SBMs good buddy, in another you are mortal enemies, in one you are a super happily married fellow, in another you are a bitter depressed slob, in one you are a genius, but in another one you are a ..........
:lol

There are an infinite number of possibilities and all define your personal subjective reality.
You are even a super hero in one just as you wanted to be, but you are also a super villain in another one, Blake.

I guess it just goes to show, you can't win them all. :lol

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Just got back from lunch.

I will respectfully disagree with you about your feelings of being a lunatic simply because IMHO I don't think a lunatic could come up with these ideas, and especially be able to elucidate them with the clarity that you have.

Yes, the skeptics will come out in droves and do their usual thing in attempting to discredit your discourse for a myriad of reasons, but even so, it does not invalidate it, all that does is verify how controversial it is. That is to be expected. The truth is real truth can come from anywhere, at anytime, from anything. You have to expect criticism when talking about something like this, but if you are courageous enough to bring it up, then you also have to be willing to fade the heat, and stick to your guns, resist being sidetracked, and laugh at your own folly.

That is why I caution you to not be afraid to admit that you are on a mystical path even though you still possess many of the faults that most all of us have. This journey is an extremely subjective one, so it will be different for each person as each of us discover our true identities as well as our true realities. Yes, I said reality in the pluralistic tense.

IMHO when we get those glimpses of our personal reality beyond our brainwashing, then who is to say how much of that reality is commonly shared, especially since the concept of reality defies definition and thus explanation. There are no reference points to compare it with. For each individual, there is a reality, some of which is shared, and some of which isn't shared.

Since how a person feels, and conceives that he is, at any given point in time, that is his particular reality, and at any given point in time. That reality appears differently when seen through the unveiled eyes of someone when they are free of brainwashing, for however long that experience lasts, or however long the mystic can maintain it, rather than how it appears while in the brainwashed state, which IMHO is the majority of our lives.

Thus reality is mutable, it changes, depending upon our perceptions.
That is why another indisputable Truth is "change".
Thus, reality is continually in a state of flux.

We can easily say that reality is common for all regardless of what we think and feel, but does that make it so, just because we say it is? That is the same as saying that all reality is objective in nature and can be explained, but who knows this for sure? No one.

There is another thing that needs to be considered with respect to reality, and that is "free will". Many mystics believe that free will is the same as the power of creation in that each and every thought that we have is the vehicle we use to shape and create our own personal subjective reality, and this vehicle is amplified by emotion, and finally by the spoken word.

In other words, not only are you able to create your own realities by imagining it, but you also give it impetus by feeling the truth of it, and even more by speaking it. We are creating reality each and every moment of our lives. And if it is done under the brainwashed state, then it comes with all the BS and imperfections part and parcel. This would explain most of the ills in the world, the terrible things that happen to some people, and not to others.

Free will comes with a tremendous responsibility in that one needs to censure their thoughts, feelings, and words, otherwise they can literally create their own hell on earth especially if they are under the spell of brainwashing and thus creating their own reality imperfectly.

Ok, I expect to be slammed on this, so have at it. I only hope I am somehow up to the task of explaining this, to all the nay sayers especially since these concepts are for the most part inexplicable.

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I concur with a lot of what you said and appreciate the input.

I know that I invited a lot of hostility by the way I stated things and by the way that I went about things in general - some of it was deliberate - a lot of it was semi-deliberate and a little was planned. A tiny bit of method to the madness if you will.
When I stumbled upon these things myself - my first reaction was - anger/hostility - I mean - who the fuck are you to label me "brainwashed" "programmed"

Except - I pondered on what I kept discovering - and this hostility turned to - curiosity - then it went from there. To be open to what might be found - is not the same as being gullible -it is just an openness to receive "new" information - and not just look for things that "confirm" your conclusions/opinions/knowledge. The more I kept discovering - it began to horrify me - when it began to dawn on me that there might be truth in this new information and that it was probably the main reason for my suffering . (Again - this is where suffering can be a great help -to you - and is given to you for a reason - to help you grow.) I was horrified to learn that I had been completely "taught wrong" or "had allowed myself to be so completely programmed" and I was horrified to learn that almost every single thought, every reaction, every thing in my life - had come from programming. Then it was either - go into denial - and close my eyes and go back to the comfort of the world I knew - in other words - stay programmed and stay asleep - or -
get to doing the work of de-programming myself. Make a stand and do the work of getting de-programmed.

A lot of the things that I was fortunate/unfortunate to have experienced were a gift/curse? and set me on this path - I think everyone has their own journey and there are times when -if I was presented with the same information - I would not have been ready - or I would have missed it.

Suffering is a great gift - to be given - and maybe because of this I was able to receive this information -

I mention this because some of this stuff - might point someone else - towards the path - which then they will follow their intuition and find their way. Sometimes you can't see it - this minute - or at this point in your life - but it might hit you at a later time in your life.

On the other hand - if you had already concluded that the messenger was a ____ ____ & a piece of ______ - before even reading the information - then it might just seem like the information is pure _____.

ymmv