The Curious Brainwashing Case of ...

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Geez, fuuzzy, you don't have to get person about it.
After all, this is just a discussion web site, not a life or death situation here.
Don't you think you are now taking this personal vendetta against me a little too far for your own mental well being?
You appear to be taking things out of the obsessive arena, and into the paranoid arena.
Is this what you like to do?
Now you are imagining ghosts on all sides of you.
Laugh a little, buddy! :lol

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Oh shit, he got the chump syndrome now too?? :lmao

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Geez, fuuzzy, you don't have to get person about it.
After all, this is just a discussion web site, not a life or death situation here.
Don't you think you are now taking this personal vendetta against me a little too far for your own mental well being?
You appear to be taking things out of the obsessive arena, and into the paranoid arena.
Is this what you like to do?
Now you are imagining ghosts on all sides of you.
Laugh a little, buddy! :lol

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Difficult time logging from account to account?

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Oh you want a direct response? I think you know exactly the answer to your question because you have another account in this conversation. I figured you could put that together. I put the quotes out there for a person who came in herre and read that would understand what you are. Rail about how I don't take you seriously on your other account now.

I do like how you are resorting to this bullshit. Deception in an effort to appear to have credibility or authority is a common tactic. Religion is centered around the notion.

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Mate, obviously you are upset but don't you think that accusing me of something devious is uncalled for?
I am baffled mate and frankly, I don't appreciate the accusation. I hope you reconsider your tone with me mate. Cheers.

Paranoid much fuzzy limp clit?

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Originally Posted by Jake the Muss

Mate, I asked Fuzzy a direct question and his response was to post some quotes of different people. Any idea what this means, you seem to be sincere in your responses so I might as well try to hear your story. Cheers, mate.

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Thanks, jake.
Honestly, I think now he is seeing spooks around every corner.
Apparently he now thinks you are actually one of us using some sort of bogus troll account.
It is a symptom of his paranoia now.
To capsulize things. IMHO he first got upset that I quit replying to his critiques of my posts because of his hostile attitude.
Then I realized that his posts exhibited pseudo intellectualism because his critiques lacked substance and showed a lack of comprehension of the subject matter. Apparently a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
All of this has frustrated him to no end. Now he is seeing ghosts everywhere he looks.
It isn't even funny, it is sad. So I dare not laugh, that might send him raving completely over the edge.
I keep trying to get him to chill out and put some laughter in his life, but this just makes it worse.
Go figure!

Jake, are you English, or possibly Australian? I noticed the "cheers".

:lmao

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Originally Posted by Jake the Muss

Mate, obviously you are upset but don't you think that accusing me of something devious is uncalled for?
I am baffled mate and frankly, I don't appreciate the accusation. I hope you reconsider your tone with me mate. Cheers.

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You're trying too hard. You got the shits now?

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Thanks, jake.
Honestly, I think now he is seeing spooks around every corner.
Apparently he now thinks you are actually one of us using some sort of bogus troll account.
It is a symptom of his paranoia now.
To capsulize things. IMHO he first got upset that I quit replying to his critiques of my posts because of his hostile attitude.
Then I realized that his posts exhibited pseudo intellectualism because his critiques lacked substance and showed a lack of comprehension of the subject matter. Apparently a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
All of this has frustrated him to no end. Now he is seeing ghosts everywhere he looks.
It isn't even funny, it is sad. So I dare not laugh, that might send him raving completely over the edge.
I keep trying to get him to chill out and put some laughter in his life, but this just makes it worse.
Go figure!

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Understood mate, I was enjoying the thread as I fall on the science side but am open to hearing about any other viewpoints.
Cheers mate.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

You're trying too hard.

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I know you are, but what am I?

Is Jake in SA? :lmao

:lmao

Fuzzy melting down again

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

You're trying too hard. You got the shits now?

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Mate, you seem to be unapproachable tonight, maybe I should ring you another day eh chap?
You seem to be very unnerved mate and I won't push you over the edge. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Jake the Muss

Understood mate, I was enjoying the thread as I fall on the science side but am open to hearing about any other viewpoints.
Cheers mate.

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Are you English, or Australian? I notice the "Cheers".

Don't worry, in between fuzzys, apparent insanities, the discussion will continue. There is merit in it. It does not matter what your leanings are, the Truth is still there. We all come from different and various points of the spectrum, and all have some truth to share. To give you an idea, I have a degree in physics with a minor in philosophy, and I am retired these days, but I am also a musician, and I suppose you could also add that I am a seeker on the path to truth, but no more so than any of us are.
Glad to have you aboard and hope to share some of your insights and opinions.

:lmao

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

:lmao

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Geez, I hope we didn't push him over the edge. Honestly, I am afraid to laugh even though it is funny.
Maybe I pushed his buttons with my long post? There were some truths in there, but nothing that should have unhinged him like this!

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Geez, I hope we didn't push him over the edge.

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If he dies, he dies.

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Are you English, or Australian? I notice the "Cheers".

Don't worry, in between fuzzys, apparent insanities, the discussion will continue. There is merit in it. It does not matter what your leanings are, the Truth is still there. We all come from different and various points of the spectrum, and all some truth to share. To give you an idea, I have a degree in physics with a minor in philosophy, and I am retired these days, but I am also a musician, and I suppose you could also add that I am a seeker on the path to truth, but no more so than any of us are.
Glad to have you aboard and hope to share some of your insights and opinions.

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Much obliged, mate. I am a New Zealander mate which is the most beautiful place on the planet.
Thanks for your hospitality, mate. I would describe myself as just a common but lovable chap.
My love of the Spurs stems from a chap named of Patty Mills - although he is not from NZ - he is still
a common chap who represents our part of the planet.
Cheers, mate.

Drago lmao

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Originally Posted by Jake the Muss

Much obliged, mate. I am a New Zealander mate which is the most beautiful place on the planet.
Thanks for your hospitality, mate. I would describe myself as just a common but lovable chap.
My love of the Spurs stems from a chap named of Patty Mills - although he is not from NZ - he is still
a common chap who represents our part of the planet.
Cheers, mate.

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Mills is quickly becoming one of my favorite Spurs.
New Zealand. Wow, did you get to see any of the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings sets?

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Mills is quickly becoming one of my favorite Spurs.
New Zealand. Wow, did you get to see any of the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings sets?

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No mate, I am from Christchurch but have visited some of those areas where they filmed like Wellington, Mt. Victoria and South Lakes and there are some heavenly places but I visited as a young lad. I need to go there again soon.
Cheers.

What a bleeding vagina that fuzzy faggot turned out to be. Smh

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Yes, very astute of you. From William of Ockham. To wit, when you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better.
But Ernst Mach had his own version. "Scientists must use the simplest means of arriving at their results and exclude everything not perceived by the senses."

The problem with that is with the "senses". If they are clouded by agendas or biased in any way whatsoever then the theory will contain limitations.
That is why the use of strictly logic and reason can in many cases block the discovery of Truth.
As for God? I have barely an inkling of the concept. I prefer to concentrate on Truth. That concept is hard enough. And I suspect once Truth is understood, then the concept of God will be much clearer. And before we can understand Truth, it may be necessary to understand the concept of "knowledge".
One step at a time. :lol

The esoteric teaching about knowledge and being refers to the fact that knowledge cannot be understood unless there is a corresponding development of being.
A man may know a great deal and understand nothing because his being is not equal to his knowledge.
As a consequence, no inner union can take place between his being and his knowledge . . . The man of poor being and great knowledge can only give out meaningless material that leads nowhere.
And not only this, but he can only complicate everything and make it unintelligible.

A new model for "mystical" probably is called for as you say, I just have not heard of one yet that fits our modern day sensibilities. Possibly "seeker on the path to Truth" is the best I can come up with. In any case, such a one generally isn't concerned so much with labels or models as they are with "change", since everything is in a constant state of change.

The true "seeker" never evangelizes, never tries to convince people they ought to achieve a higher state of being, never argues with a seed that it should become a plant. Rather, he simply makes available the knowledge that a seed can become a plant --- if it learns how to die to being a seed.

And there are many pitfalls as well as falsities, and also those who would pose as seekers of the Truth who really are not, thus leading many astray. But most of all there are the detractors and the ridiculers who can stifle ones growth toward Truth. So you first have to ask, what in a seed would keep it a seed?
- The assumption that it's present state of being is final and complete,
- Fear of what it means to die as a seed,
- The presumption that it is already a plant (there are many seeds, pretending to be plants),
- Suspicion of the idea that seeds can become plants,
- Complete satisfaction with its present state as a seed,
- Laziness, lethargy, obsession with seed pleasures.
Any and all of this can impede ones progress.

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I meant to say we are constantly in the process of honing models and using the best models to fit our perceived results. Newtonian mechanics works extraordinarily well and is learned by every engineering student. But Einsteins modeling of gravity is more precise.

I have no idea what you mean by development of being. I have no idea what a higher state of being means. Ockhams razor is used to get rid of totally frivolous explanations, especially if they invoke the supernatural as in my example.

I was was trained as science guy and I realize the limitations that an ape like creature that evolved for life on grassy plains littered with trees and our exquisite efforts to invent symbolic language are lacking. We can't directly sense radio waves or make physical models for many phenomena that math explains much better. Tough luck for us, I don't believe we were predetermined to exist to understand the natural world. I'm fine with that.

Thus this thread will not lead me to just start making stuff up. I'm not going to pounce upon some grand unified theory of consciousness and being just to make myself comfy. Or pretend like I know what states of being are. If you are referring to recognition of self among individuals, ability to empathize, question how a bundle of neurons calls itself me, the evolution of symbolic language, we can take those on separately. But I don't know what a poor state of being is. We cannot begin to communicate on this being stuff.

And I don't know all the history of various conflicts on this board. I don't play games of praise unless I think I really learn something new. I just have not found it here. The interest I have is how wacked out various posters are. I had no idea there existed such a misunderstanding between various methods people choose to ask questions that interest them. Curious brainwashing... Non potable water on the head. I'm done.

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Originally Posted by galvanizedspur9

:lmao:lmao:lmao the pseudointellectual has been handled by SA210 and SBM so much so that the queer has put them on ignore list.

:lmao old man Xmas going in on that ish. He'll be next on the list.

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I hope he does put me on ignore, then I don't have to worry about the poor dude. Seriously!
At least then he would quit following me around trying to make a mockery of my posts, and trying to bait me into his pissing contests! He must have a "thing" against neutrality.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

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