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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
I don't think anybody thinks he's the second coming???????? Just a good solid player who will help this team. Seeing the Olympics, you would be hard pressed not to see he was the second best player on the team.
Second coming of...? Jesus? No. Manu Ginobili? No. Kenny Thomas, but a little taller? Likely. Brian Grant with less bulk? Possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Well, the comparison is already being made of Scola to Ginobili. Other than their nationality, they are rather different.
Sure, Scola might be able to turn into a solid role player in the NBA.
Damn, he has been so hyped up it would be a huge letdown if he weren't here next year.
I understand how good his hype is, but how his skills will translate into the NBA is another story. He's undersized for a big and I don't think he has the wingspan to compensate for that. Maybe he will be able to play bigger than his frame. Also, he's benefitted by playing in situations in which man to man D was not a requirement at some point.
Or maybe he is, and we can get him for less than 2 mil a year. I don't see those opportunities coming around very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
What could we get for him? A draftpick that we turn into either a young kid that wouldn't have near the experience that he has, or a young guy we send to Europe hoping he turns into what scola is now?
Scola is the player i have been more anxious to get than any other player in the league, the boy is a beast. He shook the world in the olympics, and he will dominate in the NBA only cause he plays with emotion and a lot of heart, something a lot of players in the NBA do not do now a days.
Well, if you ended up with a SAR who was willing to come to SA, be content with reduced minutes and play defense for the MLE perhaps moving Scola doesn't seem that bad.
Scola wouldn't play for peanuts forever. He's an unproven player in this league. How many years of TD's prime would we have to wait for him to find himself in this league?
Well he might be an unproven player in this league, but he has showed the world he has skills. I would say, that if we get Scola for next season, by after all-star break the spurs will be thinking about starting him. If and only if his defense were to improve from what we have seen. He is a beast no doubt about it, Scola deserves his shot in the NBA.
Andrew Gaze once showed the world his skills. Shane Heal too. And so on. Hey, I hope he tears up the league as a Spur if he's that good, but there are definitely plenty of questions about how he will fit in the NBA.
i cant believe some of the crap i read last night and this morning... i dont think anyone thinks scola is going to be the second coming of anyone. the guy is the best power forward in europe right now according to alot of people... how well that translates into the nba, no one knows for sure. yet some people are so sure of what he WONT be able to do, that they call him a "project".
manu was the best SG in europe once upon a time, and just as many people talked shit about him. he didnt have the hops that kobe had... he's too thin and wont make it thru 82 games in the rock hard nba... we need someone now instead of later... no time for his learning curve... etc etc etc.
while SOME people in here are talking about the tremendous depth we have at center and point guard... these same people are willing to let a rasho or nazr go, for yet another 4... and bypass scola altogether or trade him. (insane)
you just won a championship. you just resigned a player that plays as your backup 4 for the next 2 years at least. (horry) you have two tradable players and really good depth at the 5 (rasho and nazr) your backcourt is locked up for the future (parker, manu and barry) you only have one SF...
adding the best power forward in europe to backup duncan and horry wouldnt hurt... trading one of those centers for a small forward... or using the rest of the mle for one, wouldnt be a bad idea.
but bashing a guy who hasnt even played a game for you... thats stupid. especially since the guy was on the same team that beat team usa. i recall a block he had on j o'neal, and the smug bastard stepped on him as argentina took the block/reb back upcourt. --- thats enough for me to like him already. (i think that was at the game in indy)
Scola can kick the Kiwi´s ass every day and twice on sundayQuote:
Originally Posted by nzkickass
Why can't his game be questioned? Being the best 4 in Europe isn't worth as much as you seem to think it is.
what the fuck does that mean? i dont think its worth anything except for what is being said about him by the same people who spoke about manu. why does being the best power forward in europe count against you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
IF SAR where willing to do all that I would bring him over in a sec, but I wouldn't trade Scola. Just leave him over and let his European contract run out, and bring him over next year. I wouldn't give up on what people call the best PF in Europe that easily. The guys what? 25?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
wouldnt trade him for rasho
so...not that bad
hope hes good though
Being the best power forward in Europe is not saying much. Do you know what happens to all those college power forwards who bust in the NBA because they were too short? They go and star in Europe.
As far as making the jump to the NBA, "power forward" is perhaps the biggest jump between Europe and the NBA. Malik Rose, Corliss Williamson and Clearance Weatherspoon would dominate in Europe as power forwards.
well seeing as everyone's jumped off the coca-scola train, maybe he isnt worth crap... here i thought the offseason would bring back horry, add a young talented power forward with energy and a SF to truly backup bruce and one day replace him. (soon) having rasho and nazr is the kind of depth and talent base that can lead to a pretty good small forward. (trading big for small)
but since people think scola is a one armed midget who's blind in one eye and can hardly tie his shoes... plus i dont like the malik reference... even if he is 3 inches taller.
I wouldn't say "everyone" has left. Plus, I'm only being a skeptic and realist.
well the realist in me says that if you dont start treating bowen more like horry (mins wise in the regular season) and you trade rasho away for yet another 4... you lose scola... and if you dont/cant extend nazr... we're going to be wondering what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Ginobili was widely known as an athletic freak and an amazing whirling dervish in Europe. Nobody knew how his game would translate because nobody ever had seen anything like him before.
Scola's pretty conventional. He's got OK size for Europe, but he's a little small for the NBA, and he's not quick enough to play 3 or strong enough to play 5. He's got decent post moves, he passes well, and he's a good team player with a high basketball IQ. He's mentally tough.
He looks like a solid contributor on the NBA level. He does not look like an All-Star.
I think if the Spurs decide they don't want to bring Scola in this summer, they trade him. He wants to play in the NBA now, and they'll accomodate his wishes.Quote:
Originally Posted by constantstate
I think Spurs fans tend to fall in love with players too soon (and unfortunately hate on those who really contribute too soon as well).
People have been starting to assume that Scola is going to be "another Manu", for example. Man, that's not a given at all.