ESPN.com: Spurs talking S&T with Portland, Rasho for Abdur-Rahim

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Originally Posted by GhostofAlfrederickHughes

From Chad Ford on ESPN.com:

Kevin (New Jersey): Hey Chad, how big are the chances of Shareef Abdur Rahim running alongside J Kidd, Vince, and RJ in a Nets uniform next season?

http://espn.starwave.com/i/sn2.gif Chad Ford: (1:18 PM ET ) They are praying. He'd be a great fit there and both Shareef and the Nets know it. The problem is that several other teams like the Spurs are talking sign-and-trade with the Blazers. That allows them to pay more money. The Blazers are trying to work out a Rasho Nesterovic for Abdur-Rahim swap.

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I like this. You get Abdur-Rahim for a guy who didn't factor into your title run and whose long term future was quite uncertain in SA.

Well a Rasho for SARS S&T won't help our cap situation as that implies their contracts will be similar.

http://www.boomspeed.com/sweetc/ypray.gif :)

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Originally Posted by Tobias

Well a Rasho for SARS S&T won't help our cap situation as that implies their contracts will be similar.

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Actually, it will, at least for this summer. If the Spurs did such a S&T then they would still have their MLE to use on other players (ie Scola).

I like this more with horry still as a spur

also this would mean horry may be learning the ropes more of a coach
he said he would like to coach or be a scout after he is done playing

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Originally Posted by SpursWoman

http://www.boomspeed.com/sweetc/ypray.gif :)

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:lmao

My sentiments exactly (but they better have Nazr extended before they do this).

could you imagine this going down and then signing big dog


if the spurs needed o they could bring in some players who could lit it up

If SAR comes can't see Scola coming too. If they do get SAR trade Scola's rights for an unprotected draft pick.

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Originally Posted by ducks

I like this more with horry still as a spur

also this would mean horry may be learning the ropes more of a coach
he said he would like to coach or be a scout after he is done playing

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That sounds like a lot of work. [/Horry]

Let's play along and assume this trade goes down. I am not sure what to make of the deal. On one hand the time of the dominant center is almost non-existant and picking up Rahim for the likes of the mobile big men in the league does make some sense. We had a terrible time with Stud-amire in the WCF and , at least on paper, Rahim would seem to be able to help out tremendously. On the other hand if one of our big guys went down, Nazr or Tim we would seriously suffer on the defensive end due to the lack of a 7 footer guarding the basket. I think overall our defensive scheme would suffer without a 7 footer coming off of the bench. any thoughts?

this move would keep horry fresh for playoffs

BTW, I like that he says the Blazers are trying to work this out.

I was kind of skeptical that anyone would be willing to help us out via trades.

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Originally Posted by ducks

could you imagine this going down and then signing big dog


if the spurs needed o they could bring in some players who could lit it up

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If, perhaps, they signed Scola with the LLE plus $350K for the buyout with Tau and then offered GRobinson something starting in the $3.5 mil range as a starting salary for 2 or 3 seasons.

Still, this seems like a lot of salary commitments for Holt Cat to take on.

Oberto for LLE.

Portland is another franchise that has dealt with the Spurs in the past, just like the Hawks, Knicks, Suns, and :lol Lakers ("the rich get richer")...

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I think overall our defensive scheme would suffer without a 7 footer coming off of the bench. any thoughts?

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Well, considering we had a 6'8" guy doing it (Horry) in the playoffs, I'd say that worked out okay.

Look, the overall trend in this league is for longer, athletic forward types, not the big brutes. That's one area where the Spurs need to improve at - having guys to match up with the likes of Amare, Rashard, etc.

Shareef gives you that.

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Oberto for LLE.

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Well, if he would like to spend a season on IR then yeah, he can sign for that or whatever is left over of the MLE.

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Originally Posted by RAZAPSPURSFAN

Let's play along and assume this trade goes down. I am not sure what to make of the deal. On one hand the time of the dominant center is almost non-existant and picking up Rahim for the likes of the mobile big men in the league does make some sense. We had a terrible time with Stud-amire in the WCF and , at least on paper, Rahim would seem to be able to help out tremendously. On the other hand if one of our big guys went down, Nazr or Tim we would seriously suffer on the defensive end due to the lack of a 7 footer guarding the basket. I think overall our defensive scheme would suffer without a 7 footer coming off of the bench. any thoughts?

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TD functions as the backup 5.

Maybe I'd rather have Przybilla, if the Spurs are dealing with the Blazers.

Its great to have a bunch of good players, but are these guys happy with sitting on their asses for most of the season?

Music to my ears please tell me this trade goes down, and get Rasho off the team already. I still see the Spurs getting Scola though i doubt very highly they let a player of that magnitude slip through their fingers

This would be wonderful. I don't like having to take a similar contract back, but at least it won't tie up the MLE.

you get a young forward who can put up good numbers if td has to sit out a few games... and the power forward you can depend on to rest horry in the regular season... for rasho... a guy they wont use if they start nazr.

Oberto is a fairly physical player and decent post defender, without Rasho needed backup for Naz and Duncan should either go down or be in foul trouble. Horry, SAR, Scola aren't capable of the C position against physical Cs.

if trade goes down blazers get a 2006 champion post card

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Its great to have a bunch of good players, but are these guys happy with sitting on their asses for most of the season?

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Since your starting center won't likely be breaking 30 minutes a game and you'd like to limit the minutes of your primary backup big to around 15, yeah, there's room at the inn.

get someone
tall.
not short
tall.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Well, considering we had a 6'8" guy doing it (Horry) in the playoffs, I'd say that worked out okay.

Look, the overall trend in this league is for longer, athletic forward types, not the big brutes. That's one area where the Spurs need to improve at - having guys to match up with the likes of Amare, Rashard, etc.

Shareef gives you that.

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Horry is not 6'8", more like 6'10". He and Duncan are about the same height.

a slow footed tweener. just what we need!

I'd have Diaw and cap space for Rasho... (confirmed no brainer by swami chumpdumper)

I don't like this, SAR I don't think has ever played in a single playoff game before sure he will be good in the regular season, but how will the pressure affect him in the playoffs. Plus to me he seems a bit soft, but thats just my opinion. I'd rather have Scola who goes balls out everytime he steps on the court, and at least has some big game experience.

So the Spurs might be looking at a frontline of...

Starters
3 Bowen
4 Duncan
5 Mohammed

Bench
3 GRobinson
4 Horry
4 Abdur-Rahim
4 Scola

Someone remind me why this would be a bad thing. Granted, there is a lot that would have to happen for that to come to fruition, but still, what's wrong with something like that?

If Holt Cat et al are ready to spend, I'm down.

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I'd rather have Przybilla, if the Spurs are dealing with the Blazers.

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I guess Joel is so offensively challenged that the Blazers are looking for a better compliment to Randolph spacing-wise. They'll instantly have one of the better center tandems in the league, for what that's worth to them. Easier to waive Ratliff after that -- something else I didn't initially consider.

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Originally Posted by shyne

I don't like this, SAR I don't think has ever played in a single playoff game before sure he will be good in the regular season, but how will the pressure affect him in the playoffs. Plus to me he seems a bit soft, but thats just my opinion. I'd rather have Scola who goes balls out everytime he steps on the court, and at least has some big game experience.

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Yet, Scola hasn't played in a single NBA game.

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Originally Posted by shyne

I don't like this, SAR I don't think has ever played in a single playoff game before sure he will be good in the regular season, but how will the pressure affect him in the playoffs. Plus to me he seems a bit soft, but thats just my opinion. I'd rather have Scola who goes balls out everytime he steps on the court, and at least has some big game experience.

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Frontline rotation will get tighter in the post season, and if SAR doesn't perform in the playoffs he can take the seat at the end of the bench Rasho had during this years run.

i think this trade sucks.

but i will assume i'm wrong and trust in Pop if the Spurs make it happen.

I'm looking for the cloud between the silver lining if this is true.

I like this. Maybe my dream will come true. But what are the Blazers thinking? Ratliff, Przybilla and then possibly Rasho. I know they want to trade Ratliff and they want to keep Przybilla in the starting lineup. I guess we have to wait and see.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Yet, Scola hasn't played in a single NBA game.

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Good point.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

I'm looking for the cloud between the silver lining if this is true.

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The cloud would be that it will hold back Scola's progression.

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I'd have Diaw and cap space for Rasho.

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Diaw? :lol He would be getting Linton Johnson type minutes on this team, and you want to trade him for a guy who was our starting center?

Quit digging.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Diaw? :lol He would be getting Linton Johnson type minutes on this team, and you want to trade him for a guy who was our starting center?

Quit digging.

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"It's totally onesided in favor of the Spurs."

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

"It's totally onesided in favor of the Spurs."

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didn't you have this argument last night?

Sorry, that just cracks me up.

When we get done with that one, why don't we trade Ginobili for Carlos Delfino?

To me SAR and Scola are in the same boat, neither have played in an NBA playoff game, and you guys know thats all that matters. At least we know that Scola is a winner and your going to get 100% every night, im not sure about that with SAR he has never even been on a playoff contending team.

if this trade happens, i cant see how scola is coming. he's either gonna stay over there another year and finish his contract or be traded to a team that can pay/play him. thats just too many 4s man. one of those dudes would have to be on the ir the whole year... unless scola comes over for the lle and lle like money over the next 2 or more years... and they sit him and prep him to take over horry's mins.

I don't like it. I don't see the need. Keep Nazr and Rasho until you see what Nazr gives you after training camp, bring Scola and see what he does and then look around for a young athletic forward - they seem to be everywhere and they all want to play for the Spurs.

I don't see why you fuck with a good thing on one or two questions marks (SARS in the playoffs? Scola in the league? Nazr on defense and catching passes?) that may or may not produce to the level you've already got.

Sorry.

I do promise to bite my tongue and trust Pop & Co if it happens.

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didn't you have this argument last night?

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Just bringing AHF up to speed. It was an example of a salary dump, nothing more.

what I really want is Aggie's Rasho for Deng and Nicioni.

P.S. sacramento traded 2 second rounders plus paid Keon's contract. hmmm... don't see Z signed in Alt. yet so maybe we still can swing it

SAR>scola
I say we trade scola for draft picks
and sign Oberto since after trading rasho we will only have one C and oberto or dike mutombo would be great backup Cs

Again, I'm trying to find the cloud here. So far it's that SAR hasn't played in a NBA playoff game.

I need something more. This is SAR for Rasho, people. You already have another starting center and TD is your backup.

Where's the cloud...?

We still don't know what Nazr will do. That's my problem. Not trading one of them - though I'd rather keep both - but trading away the guy who's done very well on defense for yet another question mark. I just don't get it.

Other than that . . . shrug. I don't mind SARS so much, if he drops the attitude and accepts a bench role and continues to perform then he's right up the Spurs alley.

Is the league moving more towards the mobile athletic bigmen or not? DRob was the prophet, now Amare is the reality. Or something like that.

To further expound, we've got a championship group. We've got a legit center and an athletic center, each with faults the other doesn't have. We've got rights to a foreign players who has performed fantastically elsewhere, but is a question mark - however we could bring him into a safe setting and answer the questions.

This trade creates more question marks - and it's for someone who is a bit of a question mark.

I don't see the need. Plain and simple.

Yeah, I think they are moving that way (athletic over big)- but there are still enough of the old guard around to warrant keeping one of them on your team.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Again, I'm trying to find the cloud here. So far it's that SAR hasn't played in a NBA playoff game.

I need something more. This is SAR for Rasho, people. You already have another starting center and TD is your backup.

Where's the cloud...?

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theres no cloud there... maybe just a small one. too many 4's. if they do this trade you dont need/want scola... but you still need a 3. mle or lle? also, we might miss rasho against shaq, but just add another big body to the end of the bench for the 6 mandatory fouls they give anyone who gets in the way of "his heaviness" and you're set... and be sure you can lock nazr into an extension before his value increases... otherwise tim duncan is your starting center the following year.

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Originally Posted by constantstate

theres no cloud there... maybe just a small one. too many 4's. if they do this trade you dont need/want scola... but you still need a 3. mle or lle? also, we might miss rasho against shaq, but just add another big body to the end of the bench for the 6 mandatory fouls they give anyone who gets in the way of "his heaviness" and you're set... and be sure you can lock nazr into an extension before his value increases.

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Perhaps the Spurs have too many 5s? TD is the backup center in SA, so the Spurs have effectively three centers. One of the 4s on the bench could spy some minutes at the 3.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Is the league moving more towards the mobile athletic bigmen or not? DRob was the prophet, now Amare is the reality. Or something like that.

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in the west... with the exception of the sun blocking yao. but the east still has alot of heavies.

Is Tmass playing next season?

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Originally Posted by easjer

To further expound, we've got a championship group. We've got a legit center and an athletic center, each with faults the other doesn't have. We've got rights to a foreign players who has performed fantastically elsewhere, but is a question mark - however we could bring him into a safe setting and answer the questions.

This trade creates more question marks - and it's for someone who is a bit of a question mark.

I don't see the need. Plain and simple.

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Perhaps the need is that Horry won't be around forever and hey, you have a chance to add a 28 year old PF who's a proven scorer in this league, has a solid jumper with 3 point range, and gets to the line more in 5 games than Radosoft does in an entire season.

Personally I don't get this trade. We just won the championship with Duncan at 80%, with a center who was on the team for 1/2 the year, with 2 guys that are going to get better (Parker and Manu). A rookie point guard that got tossed in the fire and has a summer to work his failings... Add Devin Brown back and you have a LOT better team.

SAR means no Scola. Scola is the perfect guy to try because he'll be cheap. Unless Duncan is pushing hard for this I stay the course and pray some team is stupid enough to let you dump Rasho's salary

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Originally Posted by constantstate

in the west... with the exception of the sun blocking yao. but the east still has alot of heavies.

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The East has one heavy. Dampier could be called a "heavy", for example. Anyone worried about muscling up with him?

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Perhaps the Spurs have too many 5s? TD is the backup center in SA, so the Spurs have effectively three centers. One of the 4s on the bench could spy some minutes at the 3.

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whos the third center if we trade rasho?

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Originally Posted by spvrs

Personally I don't get this trade. We just won the championship with Duncan at 80%, with a center who was on the team for 1/2 the year, with 2 guys that are going to get better (Parker and Manu). A rookie point guard that got tossed in the fire and has a summer to work his failings... Add Devin Brown back and you have a LOT better team.

SAR means no Scola. Scola is the perfect guy to try because he'll be cheap. Unless Duncan is pushing hard for this I stay the course and pray some team is stupid enough to let you dump Rasho's salary

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You just won a title and you want to pass up an opportunity to get even better by moving a guy who didn't see hardly any minutes in your title run?

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Originally Posted by constantstate

whos the third center if we trade rasho?

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You don't need a 3rd center. Or hell, you invite Mass back for a season to ride IR.

I wouldnt mind.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

The East has one heavy. Dampier could be called a "heavy", for example. Anyone worried about muscling up with him?

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i meant big tall guys. whos that dude that danny ferry is high on that plays center for the cavs?

Ilgauskas? Not worried about him.

I would definitely like to see this trade go down as well!

But we shouldn't rely on Timmy to be the back up. We should find a backup. We're stuck if Timmy gets injured and Nazr gets injured. It's fine for a few posessions against a smaller team, but shouldn't be standard. Otherwise, (imo, only) we push Timmy too hard and shoot ourselves in the foot if he goes down.

I'm not opposed to SARS. You make a good point about replacing Horry. But I think we can better fill that with Scola, sight unseen. He's younger, and plays well on the international stage. Further, we've got 2 years before we lose Horry, so I think it's worth sticking with what we've got for a year and then shopping out a center if it's not working.

Again, not opposed t SARS necessarily - my opposition lies elsewhere. I know, you'd think Rasho was paying me . . .

Wow, it's so nice that we have so many options to pick from. Just 2 years ago all we had was Rasho............

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Originally Posted by easjer

But we shouldn't rely on Timmy to be the back up. We should find a backup. We're stuck if Timmy gets injured and Nazr gets injured. It's fine for a few posessions against a smaller team, but shouldn't be standard. Otherwise, (imo, only) we push Timmy too hard and shoot ourselves in the foot if he goes down.

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If both go down then the Spurs aren't going to win. Actually, then the Spurs are better suited to try to outscore teams by turning into a run and gun team versus a halfcourt one. Who fits in that more, SAR or Rasho?

The only way Horry is going to get court time is if TD plays some 5.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Again, I'm trying to find the cloud here. So far it's that SAR hasn't played in a NBA playoff game.

I need something more. This is SAR for Rasho, people. You already have another starting center and TD is your backup.

Where's the cloud...?

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I don't know why anyone would even question this trade...especially if we keep Nazr too. SAR is a BMF.

HINT tim duncan plays PF NOT center
what if nazr or tim gets injuried
remember rasho plaing great when tim was down?
i still like rasho for SAR but we need to pick up a center
because having only 1 center can get you in trouble
like i said dike mutambo , oberto, someone like that would work fine as a back up

:elephant

Please let this happen!!!

Oh, but extend Nazr if we are going to do this.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Again, I'm trying to find the cloud here. So far it's that SAR hasn't played in a NBA playoff game.

I need something more. This is SAR for Rasho, people. You already have another starting center and TD is your backup.

Where's the cloud...?

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The lack of a cloud is a direct tribute to how much ASS our FO kicks!!

if this trade goes done
if duncan gets hurts spurs could win more games then without him



scola IS NOT A PROVEN NBA PLAYER FOLKS
the only good thing is he has played with manu
if he had not played with him would people still be as high on him

I know many here has always questions his d and rebounding

I was excited about scola. He was cheap but spurs should pony up the money they NEED TO BE A DYNSASTY WITH DUNCAN. MAYBE HOLT IS REALIZING HIS MISTAKE WITH DAVID

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Originally Posted by easjer

But we shouldn't rely on Timmy to be the back up. We should find a backup. We're stuck if Timmy gets injured and Nazr gets injured. It's fine for a few posessions against a smaller team, but shouldn't be standard. Otherwise, (imo, only) we push Timmy too hard and shoot ourselves in the foot if he goes down.

I'm not opposed to SARS. You make a good point about replacing Horry. But I think we can better fill that with Scola, sight unseen. He's younger, and plays well on the international stage. Further, we've got 2 years before we lose Horry, so I think it's worth sticking with what we've got for a year and then shopping out a center if it's not working.

Again, not opposed t SARS necessarily - my opposition lies elsewhere. I know, you'd think Rasho was paying me . . .

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I've got news for you...we're screwed if Tim and Nazr get hurt, even if we still have Rasho.

what if nazr or tim gets injuried

do you think spurs will win a title without duncan if spurs keep rasho?

THIS IS NOT GOING DOWN
SPURS DO NOT LET THIS GET OUT....
IF THIS GOES DOWN IT WILL BE WITHIN 24-48 hours NO MORE

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Originally Posted by easjer

To further expound, we've got a championship group. We've got a legit center and an athletic center, each with faults the other doesn't have. We've got rights to a foreign players who has performed fantastically elsewhere, but is a question mark - however we could bring him into a safe setting and answer the questions.

This trade creates more question marks - and it's for someone who is a bit of a question mark.

I don't see the need. Plain and simple.

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You speak wisdom.

you forget that SAR plays 4, he is a huge sorcer, he was almost a frachise player not totaly there but close, was major focus of alanta team

this means if TiM gos down SAR takes his place, we still have a chance to win games, and then Tim comes back right before playoffs and we have a great record so we play bottom level teams, and tim build s back up for playoffs
so if tim gets hurt SAR is actual a better option

THIS MOVE WILL MAKE THE SPURS START OFF well

also will keep all players fresh because they will not have to play as many minutes



manu will not have to play over 30 minutes a game ....

I think the Spurs thinking is:

1) Adapting to the new league. Today, players are faster ... especially power forwards. Having a huge center isn't as important as it was even a couple seasons ago.

2) Spacing. Like I said in that thread where I was advocating Donyell Marshall, the Spurs play much better when their power forward/center opposite of Tim Duncan is lifted. That give more room for The Big Three to operate. SARS could step away from the basket and still be effective.

3) Saving Horry. You don't want Horry playing more than 15-18 minutes in the regular season. With Duncan around 32 minutes and Nazr around 28 minutes, that's 36 minutes you have to fill with backup bigs. That's where SARS comes in.

4) Uncertainty regarding Scola. The Spurs scouts have watched and talked to this guy more than everyone on this forum combined. If they have an idea that he won't work in the NBA, then the Spurs have to go out and get someone who will work out. If the Spurs decide he's not what he's cracked up to be or that they're better off trading him, it's hard to go against the best scouting department in the league.

5) Trading one of Nazr or Rasho limits any bad blood that could arise next season. It makes the roles much more obvious going into the season. And let's face it, Nazr and Rasho are hot commodities on the open market ... even though it doesn't seem that way to Spurs fans that are spoiled when it comes to centers. Both of these guys can play and 75% of the teams in the league would love to have them.

Seriously, if the Spurs lost TD and Nazr, then it makes more sense to turn into a Suns' clone.

1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Bowen
4 Horry
5 SAR (yes, I know he's not a true center)

Might as well try to outscore teams then and SAR would help more in that scenario than Rasho.

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4) Uncertainty regarding Scola. The Spurs scouts have watched and talked to this guy more than everyone on this forum combined. If they have an idea that he won't work in the NBA, then the Spurs have to go out and get someone who will work out. If the Spurs decide he's not what he's cracked up to be or that they're better off trading him, it's hard to go against the best scouting department in the league.

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can't argue with that.

If Spurs Have Either That That Scola Will Not Work Out Or His Buyout Is To High
They Could Do This And Let Scola's Contract Run Out And Let Him Improve. They Would Not Have To Trade Him Yet
Are They Going To Go After Big Dog?

Well, if the Spurs do this then they would still have their MLE and LLE.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

So the Spurs might be looking at a frontline of...

Starters
3 Bowen
4 Duncan
5 Mohammed

Bench
3 GRobinson
4 Horry
4 Abdur-Rahim
4 Scola

Someone remind me why this would be a bad thing. Granted, there is a lot that would have to happen for that to come to fruition, but still, what's wrong with something like that?.

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Because the Spurs would be trading a good , 7' defensive center who helped them get to where they were in the regular season for a small forward/power forward. Scola and Horry are good but one cannot play long minutes, b/c we need him the the playoffs, and one will be a rookie. Mohammed - who I like a lot - has never playeda full season with the Spurs. I think the Spurs would be risking a lot if they gave up on Rasho this offseason. Keep him through the season, see how Mohammed does over the course of 82 games with the Spurs, and then see. They may need him, and I fear they will regret it if htey trade him. A decent 7 footer is hard to come by these days, and Rasho is still one of the better centers in the NBA - after Shaq and Brad Miller it's hard to see who's much better.

If Holt Cat et al are ready to spend, I'm down.

Oberto COULD STILL COME

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Originally Posted by Supergirl

Because the Spurs would be trading a good , 7' defensive center who helped them get to where they were in the regular season for a small forward/power forward. Scola and Horry are good but one cannot play long minutes, b/c we need him the the playoffs, and one will be a rookie. Mohammed - who I like a lot - has never playeda full season with the Spurs. I think the Spurs would be risking a lot if they gave up on Rasho this offseason. Keep him through the season, see how Mohammed does over the course of 82 games with the Spurs, and then see. They may need him, and I fear they will regret it if htey trade him. A decent 7 footer is hard to come by these days, and Rasho is still one of the better centers in the NBA - after Shaq and Brad Miller it's hard to see who's much better.

If Holt Cat et al are ready to spend, I'm down.

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The Spurs have two centers other than Rasho and Rasho didn't really provide anything in the title run. He also has averaged under 30 minutes a game during his career as a Spur and his offensive production is downright abyssmal for a player of his size and skill.

With SAR you get a guy who compliments TD's offensive game much better and who at 28 years of age still has a lot of basketball left. You also get a guy whose game is much better suited to what the Spurs are going to be facing at the 4 in the NBA going forward. As it currently stands, a lot of time TD gets to rest a little when he's guarding the opposing backup 5s of the league defensively. If you still have Rasho coming off the bench, then TD has to match up with typically quicker 4s...

His FT shooting is too good for SA....he will have to miss more FTs to fit in.

Some may scream reading this but the way i see this i would prefer Nazr to get traded than rasho. TIMVP showed in the donyell marshall for Nazr that mohamed might get very expensive to re-sign.
you can not take the risk to send rasho elsewhere until you found a reasonable extension contract with Nazr that is in rasho's price.
Than you can do this kind of trade.

It is the only thing i care. Scola or marshall or SAR all have arguments but we need first to clear the future by signing nazr otherwise all this could be destructed next summer cause spurs could not have the money to keep their legitimate center.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

The Spurs have two centers other than Rasho and Rasho didn't really provide anything in the title run. He also has averaged under 30 minutes a game during his career as a Spur and his offensive production is downright abyssmal for a player of his size and skill.

With SAR you get a guy who compliments TD's offensive game much better and who at 28 years of age still has a lot of basketball left. You also get a guy whose game is much better suited to what the Spurs are going to be facing at the 4 in the NBA going forward. As it currently stands, a lot of time TD gets to rest a little when he's guarding the opposing backup 5s of the league defensively. If you still have Rasho coming off the bench, then TD has to match up with typically quicker 4s...

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Marcus, I remember when we were calling for him to come to SA in 00, maybe we will finally get our wish, eh?

:)

So instead of "Kersey for Rahim", it might end up being "Rasho for Rahim"....wtf is Flea Flicker?

normally i'd say dont fuck with a good thing. we have depth at every spot except the small forward. but getting a guy like sar who can score points in case timmy went out for a while. or to get him TRUE rest, along with robbert horry... DO IT. extend nazr fast too... lock these bitches up and win a few titles.

Don't forget that we also have rights to a certain Lithuanian center who is doing all right in the Euro league = hint he recently won a MVP.

He does not just score, he scores without taking a lot of shots, he is efficient, and that means that he will not be taking a lot of looks away from Manu, TP and TD, and that is a bonus.

SAR certainly knows how to get to the line, unlike Radosoft, and he knows how to convert from there.