ESPN.com: Spurs talking S&T with Portland, Rasho for Abdur-Rahim

We still don't know what Nazr will do. That's my problem. Not trading one of them - though I'd rather keep both - but trading away the guy who's done very well on defense for yet another question mark. I just don't get it.

Other than that . . . shrug. I don't mind SARS so much, if he drops the attitude and accepts a bench role and continues to perform then he's right up the Spurs alley.

Is the league moving more towards the mobile athletic bigmen or not? DRob was the prophet, now Amare is the reality. Or something like that.

To further expound, we've got a championship group. We've got a legit center and an athletic center, each with faults the other doesn't have. We've got rights to a foreign players who has performed fantastically elsewhere, but is a question mark - however we could bring him into a safe setting and answer the questions.

This trade creates more question marks - and it's for someone who is a bit of a question mark.

I don't see the need. Plain and simple.

Yeah, I think they are moving that way (athletic over big)- but there are still enough of the old guard around to warrant keeping one of them on your team.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Again, I'm trying to find the cloud here. So far it's that SAR hasn't played in a NBA playoff game.

I need something more. This is SAR for Rasho, people. You already have another starting center and TD is your backup.

Where's the cloud...?

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theres no cloud there... maybe just a small one. too many 4's. if they do this trade you dont need/want scola... but you still need a 3. mle or lle? also, we might miss rasho against shaq, but just add another big body to the end of the bench for the 6 mandatory fouls they give anyone who gets in the way of "his heaviness" and you're set... and be sure you can lock nazr into an extension before his value increases... otherwise tim duncan is your starting center the following year.

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Originally Posted by constantstate

theres no cloud there... maybe just a small one. too many 4's. if they do this trade you dont need/want scola... but you still need a 3. mle or lle? also, we might miss rasho against shaq, but just add another big body to the end of the bench for the 6 mandatory fouls they give anyone who gets in the way of "his heaviness" and you're set... and be sure you can lock nazr into an extension before his value increases.

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Perhaps the Spurs have too many 5s? TD is the backup center in SA, so the Spurs have effectively three centers. One of the 4s on the bench could spy some minutes at the 3.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Is the league moving more towards the mobile athletic bigmen or not? DRob was the prophet, now Amare is the reality. Or something like that.

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in the west... with the exception of the sun blocking yao. but the east still has alot of heavies.

Is Tmass playing next season?

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To further expound, we've got a championship group. We've got a legit center and an athletic center, each with faults the other doesn't have. We've got rights to a foreign players who has performed fantastically elsewhere, but is a question mark - however we could bring him into a safe setting and answer the questions.

This trade creates more question marks - and it's for someone who is a bit of a question mark.

I don't see the need. Plain and simple.

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Perhaps the need is that Horry won't be around forever and hey, you have a chance to add a 28 year old PF who's a proven scorer in this league, has a solid jumper with 3 point range, and gets to the line more in 5 games than Radosoft does in an entire season.

Personally I don't get this trade. We just won the championship with Duncan at 80%, with a center who was on the team for 1/2 the year, with 2 guys that are going to get better (Parker and Manu). A rookie point guard that got tossed in the fire and has a summer to work his failings... Add Devin Brown back and you have a LOT better team.

SAR means no Scola. Scola is the perfect guy to try because he'll be cheap. Unless Duncan is pushing hard for this I stay the course and pray some team is stupid enough to let you dump Rasho's salary

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in the west... with the exception of the sun blocking yao. but the east still has alot of heavies.

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The East has one heavy. Dampier could be called a "heavy", for example. Anyone worried about muscling up with him?

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Perhaps the Spurs have too many 5s? TD is the backup center in SA, so the Spurs have effectively three centers. One of the 4s on the bench could spy some minutes at the 3.

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whos the third center if we trade rasho?

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Personally I don't get this trade. We just won the championship with Duncan at 80%, with a center who was on the team for 1/2 the year, with 2 guys that are going to get better (Parker and Manu). A rookie point guard that got tossed in the fire and has a summer to work his failings... Add Devin Brown back and you have a LOT better team.

SAR means no Scola. Scola is the perfect guy to try because he'll be cheap. Unless Duncan is pushing hard for this I stay the course and pray some team is stupid enough to let you dump Rasho's salary

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You just won a title and you want to pass up an opportunity to get even better by moving a guy who didn't see hardly any minutes in your title run?

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Originally Posted by constantstate

whos the third center if we trade rasho?

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You don't need a 3rd center. Or hell, you invite Mass back for a season to ride IR.

I wouldnt mind.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

The East has one heavy. Dampier could be called a "heavy", for example. Anyone worried about muscling up with him?

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i meant big tall guys. whos that dude that danny ferry is high on that plays center for the cavs?

Ilgauskas? Not worried about him.

I would definitely like to see this trade go down as well!

But we shouldn't rely on Timmy to be the back up. We should find a backup. We're stuck if Timmy gets injured and Nazr gets injured. It's fine for a few posessions against a smaller team, but shouldn't be standard. Otherwise, (imo, only) we push Timmy too hard and shoot ourselves in the foot if he goes down.

I'm not opposed to SARS. You make a good point about replacing Horry. But I think we can better fill that with Scola, sight unseen. He's younger, and plays well on the international stage. Further, we've got 2 years before we lose Horry, so I think it's worth sticking with what we've got for a year and then shopping out a center if it's not working.

Again, not opposed t SARS necessarily - my opposition lies elsewhere. I know, you'd think Rasho was paying me . . .

Wow, it's so nice that we have so many options to pick from. Just 2 years ago all we had was Rasho............

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Originally Posted by easjer

But we shouldn't rely on Timmy to be the back up. We should find a backup. We're stuck if Timmy gets injured and Nazr gets injured. It's fine for a few posessions against a smaller team, but shouldn't be standard. Otherwise, (imo, only) we push Timmy too hard and shoot ourselves in the foot if he goes down.

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If both go down then the Spurs aren't going to win. Actually, then the Spurs are better suited to try to outscore teams by turning into a run and gun team versus a halfcourt one. Who fits in that more, SAR or Rasho?

The only way Horry is going to get court time is if TD plays some 5.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Again, I'm trying to find the cloud here. So far it's that SAR hasn't played in a NBA playoff game.

I need something more. This is SAR for Rasho, people. You already have another starting center and TD is your backup.

Where's the cloud...?

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I don't know why anyone would even question this trade...especially if we keep Nazr too. SAR is a BMF.

HINT tim duncan plays PF NOT center
what if nazr or tim gets injuried
remember rasho plaing great when tim was down?
i still like rasho for SAR but we need to pick up a center
because having only 1 center can get you in trouble
like i said dike mutambo , oberto, someone like that would work fine as a back up

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Please let this happen!!!

Oh, but extend Nazr if we are going to do this.