Rasho will be traded, but not for Rahim

Stick with me for a second. The Spurs never let people know about their personnel moves, unless there is a reason behind it.

Everyone knows we're talking to Portland about Rahim for Rasho. My theory? We've got the word out, now RC and Pop are sitting back and waiting to see what offers come their way.

Deep down, they know a starting caliber center is something about 2/3 of the league needs. So why not let it be known Rasho's available, and see what you can get?

Don't ask who I think it will be for, I have no idea. The Spurs always seem to pull a rabbit out of their hat on this stuff, and probably will again (but feel free to speculate).

Interesting angle. But who's better than SAR?

Are we talking about Rasho to them or are they asking if Rasho is available and Pop & RC are listening?

Rasho for Marshall?

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We've got the word out, now RC and Pop are sitting back and waiting to see what offers come their way.

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POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

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Originally Posted by drivanroca

POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

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Hopefully he will catch himself an Argentinian forward.

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Originally Posted by drivanroca

POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

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No, Pop is flying to SA right now.

Stop toying with my heart Popovich!

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Originally Posted by kolko

No, Pop is flying to SA right now.

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Nope, Pop is currently flying to Flytonaville to do some fly fishing for the next flyve days.

I think we've got bigger fish to catch than Scola.

I think Donyell could be a possibility, for one.

I could even see Seattle move Radmanovic for a legit center.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

I think we've got bigger fish to catch than Scola.

I think Donyell could be a possibility, for one.

I could even see Seattle move Radmanovic for a legit center.

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Radmanovic is S-O-F-T defined.

I hope you're right, because that trade sucks ass.

I mainly threw out Radman's name to try and get people to think outside the box.

Point being it's going to be something we don't expect.

Hmmmmmmm. Very interesting, AHF.

Isn't it obvious and not CIA shit?

Rasho is an unneeded commodity.

That's not rocket science.

If the Spurs don't trade his ass then their stupid.

Is there a way we could weasel Odom out of LA? Now that would be a coup.

I have heard that if word of a potential Spurs trade becomes public, that trade is already dead.

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Isn't it obvious and not CIA shit?

Rasho is an unneeded commodity.

That's not rocket science.

If the Spurs don't trade his ass then their stupid.

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Their not as stupid as you.

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

ahh... they're, you got me.

You know Derrick, you seem like a cool dude, but why in the fuck do you change screen names every 30 days?

Just wondering, because I can't keep up with you.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

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I don't think they will trade him. The need to. Every team has that one overpaid deadbeat and he is definitely filling that need.

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Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

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Too LOW? If you got Reef you would be guaranteed titles for at least the next 3 years! Reef is 10 TIMES the player that Nesterovic is.

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ahh... they're, you got me.

You know Derrick, you seem like a cool dude, but why in the fuck do you change screen names every 30 days?

Just wondering, because I can't keep up with you.

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Maybe I should ask Derrick why he does that.

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Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy

Radmanovic is S-O-F-T defined.

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RADMANOVIC = TURKOGLU???

:spin

Rasho For Odom?

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Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy

Maybe I should ask Derrick why he does that.

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That's a start.

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Originally Posted by drivanroca

RADMANOVIC = TURKOGLU???

:spin

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yes

actually HELL YEA

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Originally Posted by drivanroca

RADMANOVIC = TURKOGLU???

:spin

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Nah, Turk almost got into a fight this past season as a Magic.

Rad braided his hair.

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Originally Posted by ducks

Rasho For Odom?

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lol i doubt it...but that would be sweet


isnt odom a home wrecker?

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

That's a start.

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Well, who and where the fuck is Derrick?

Rasho for Nocioni and Piatkowski.

Rasho for Marshall and Lamond Murray.

Well, it might be a disinformation campaign by the Spurs.

It could also have been leaked by the Blazers though.

who says its the Spurs who are talking to portland and letting everyone know what they are doing to fake people out? the report was the BLAZERS were trying to work a deal to get Rasho for SAR

that means to mean that Portland is calling the Spurs and RC is listening...not the other way around!

Odom comes to mind, but he will be making 11.5 million this year. Rasho is at 6.7. Even with the new 25% rules on trades, you've still gotta come up with another three million in salary to send to LA.

Here's some ideas that work salary wise....

Rasho for Jared Jeffries and Brendan Haywood
Rasho for Al Harrington
Rasho for a sign and traded Donyell Marshall or Morris Peterson
Rasho for Lorenzen Wright
Rasho for Mike Miller
Rasho for James Posey
Rasho for Darius Miles
Rasho for sign and traded Bobby Simmons
Rasho for one from each of Fisher/Dunleavy and Pietrus/Biedrins

Darius Miles? You think you're getting Miles for Rasho?

Pipe Dream!

So was getting Nazr for Rose, but that sure turned out okay.

Rasho for Nocioni would be sweet.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Stop toying with my heart Popovich!

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That sounds like a title for dance song remix.


It appears Rasho will be traded, which is somewhat of a downer for me, cause I'd like Rasho to flash that Championship ring in front of S.A. Smith.

Rasho for Nocioni would be sweet.


I also had the same idea, oh wait people dont like Nocioni since he is from Argentina

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Rasho for Eddie Robinson and one of either Luol Deng or Andres Nocioni

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Eddie Robinson was waived by the Bulls last summer.

Yeah, I wasn't really paying attention when I wrote that. My bad.

Rasho for a bag of chips and a piece of german chocolate cake! Now that I mention it, fuck the bag of chips!

holy shit if we got King Darius of Miles then we could be looking at an even better spurs team than 2005...

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holy shit if we got King Darius of Miles then we could be looking at an even better spurs team than 2005...

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Darius Miles = Douche bag with legs

darius miles also = extremely young, athletic, capable of amazing defense

if we got his attitude going, like once he got used to liking the idea of WINNING for a change, he'd be amazing. Naturally I dont think its going to happen, but a guy can dream...

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darius miles also = extremely young, athletic, capable of amazing defense

if we got his attitude going, like once he got used to liking the idea of WINNING for a change, he'd be amazing. Naturally I dont think its going to happen, but a guy can dream...

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I'd be fine with him if he was a good guy, but if he did come here, I wouldn't like it unless the coaching staff and team cooled off his attitude.

yeah naturally. i mean, he's so young he probably just wants a huge payday, I probably would too. But if he somehow landed here against his will I think we could turn him into a madman on the defensive end...throw in his ridiculous dunks here and there and you got our young SF AND a crowd favorite...

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yeah naturally. i mean, he's so young he probably just wants a huge payday, I probably would too. But if he somehow landed here against his will I think we could turn him into a madman on the defensive end...throw in his ridiculous dunks here and there and you got our young SG AND a crowd favorite...

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Well we can keep dreaming. :smokin

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Rasho For Odom?

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Hahahaha, you made a funny!

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Nah, Turk almost got into a fight this past season as a Magic.

Rad braided his hair.

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:rollin

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Too LOW? If you got Reef you would be guaranteed titles for at least the next 3 years! Reef is 10 TIMES the player that Nesterovic is.

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i know, right? do people not realize that this guy is a career 20 and 8 player?! how many players in the league can claim that? if this trade is possible, the spurs need to pull the trigger on this shit.

you gotta stop looking at stats. those stats have gotten SAR's ass traded more times than i care to remember. there has to be a reason.

Pop loves Rasho 1st of all. I still don't think he will let him go unless there is an upgrade at Center available. You are not supposed to trade down in size...granted that Rasho plays like malik without the heart, but i digress.

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you gotta stop looking at stats. those stats have gotten SAR's ass traded more times than i care to remember. there has to be a reason.

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SAR was traded twice. The 1st one, Memphis got their starting frontcourt out of it, P. Gasol and L. Wright. The 2nd time, Atlanta was just looking to clear cap space and got rid of Ratliff and SAR for Rasheed. Those are the reasons. It's not as if he's a Chris Gatling.

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I still don't think he will let him go unless there is an upgrade at Center available.

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Pop already got his upgrade in Nazr.

Now the focus is long three/athletic four.

The Mo Pete scenario is very interested.
He is a good defender, and works hard at both ends of the floor, good finisher on the break, decent 3 pt shooter, but his handles are suspect, and he can't create at all. Capable of flashes of brilliance, but who then retreat to a hole on offense.
Come to think of it, sounds like a good Bowen replacement.

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Originally Posted by Ginofan

Darius Miles? You think you're getting Miles for Rasho?

Pipe Dream!

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What is so pipe about that? Rasho has had more value than Darius the past few seasons. Miles hasn't really improved much, if it all as a player since his rookie season.

Not saying he doesn't have some potential if put in the right system, but it is highly doubtful he becomes an All-Star player. But I do think he could help the Spurs a lot.

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Originally Posted by drivanroca

POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

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Too bad we can't trade Rasho for Scola and eliminate the buyout. Someone should petition Stern to allow international trades. Can't you just hear Pop? "You shoot that three off a fast break one more time, and I'm sending your ass to Israel. You wanna play for Macabi, motherfucker? How about the Russian "superleague". I hear Moscow is really nice in February."

I have been saying for a couple of months that Rasho will be traded to NJ. I was adding NY to that possibility also.

Both NJ and NY need a quality veteran center, the Spurs need a backup PF, if Scola can not be acquired from Europe. or a backup swingman. I am thinking either Jefferson or Antoine Wright(I pray for this) I was thinking about Sweetney from NY, but with the Knicks trading away Kurt Thomas, the Sweetney trade is probably out.

I want Antoine!!!

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Pop already got his upgrade in Nazr.

Now the focus is long three/athletic four.

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You are right our Spurs got Nazr, but he has not re-signed. i don't think the Spurs would want to be put over a barrel by shipping Rasho off before then.

and SAR is a 4 who plays soft D? why not just resign big dog for cheap.

hey Tlong, how did SAR do vs. Shaq, Amare, and the Wallace bros?
Thanks in advance. :smokin

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holy shit if we got King Darius of Miles then we could be looking at an even better spurs team than 2005...

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you're joking right? the point is players have to improve season to season not get worse

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there has to be a reason.

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Yeah, he was overpaid.

Rasho for Malik Rose!!!!


:lol

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Rasho for Malik Rose!!!!


:lol

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In essence, it would have gone down as a trade of Rasho for Nazr then?

Not too bad.

:)

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Rasho for Eddie Robinson and one of either Luol Deng or Andres Nocioni

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doh?!?!?!


How fucking retarded does this thread look now??

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No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

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double dohh

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I'd be fine with him if he was a good guy, but if he did come here, I wouldn't like it unless the coaching staff and team cooled off his attitude.

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Why does every player the Spurs get or "have to have" on their team is a "good guy." Wouldn't it be nice to add an edgy baller with some spunk in his step. Are the Spurs "small market" because they shut out these types of players? We are the 10th largest city in America, Our team should reflect that. However we don't need the thugs, They can stay in Indy and Detroit. Less we forget what happened to D Robinson when K Malone elbowed him to the head, and no one came to his Defense. Everyone on the "good guy" Spurs
had their jaws on the floor and were SCARED to confront Malone. An edgy player would have at least shown some backbone and got it his face. Not his hands on his face saying "OH MY GOD" over and over (ie Tim Duncan!). If they can get this guy, get him, and leave his attitude alone. The Spurs could use a little attitude. They are the Champs, and teams are gunning for them.

Rasho or Nazr to Memphis for Battier or Posey???

that is one of the very possible trades out there for rasho or nazr.

Memphis; Atlanta are the best suitors for the spurs to make a trade with

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that is one of the very possible trades out there for rasho or nazr.

Memphis; Atlanta are the best suitors for the spurs to make a trade with

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Nazr would be more attractive to other teams for the same reason he was attractive to the Spurs - an expiring contract. I don't know if the Spurs want to give that flexibility away or not.

People. we aren't getting jack shyt for Rasho. we might get an all star for him if we package Duncan or Manu.

The reason I bumped the thread post was to show that it was off base.

In the Express news it came out flat and said Atlanta has no interest and Stein speculates that we might cut the guy, ie pay him to go away for nothing in return

Height is a premium. Rasho, having an off year, is still a serviceable big man.

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Stein speculates that we might cut the guy, ie pay him to go away for nothing in return

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:rolleyes

Stein speculation = Sam Smith trade rumor = Chad Ford spelling error

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you gotta stop looking at stats. those stats have gotten SAR's ass traded more times than i care to remember. there has to be a reason.

Pop loves Rasho 1st of all. I still don't think he will let him go unless there is an upgrade at Center available.

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Unless its a no brainer, Spurs will hold off till February trade deadline.

Yes you guys know better than Stein or Express news. Rasho is a good big man, with a decent contract because you guys say so... :drunk

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In essence, it would have gone down as a trade of Rasho for Nazr then?

Not too bad.

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Rosho for Nazr? Not quite. Let's not forget the two #1 picks we gave up. One this year and another next. Ian Mahimi (sp?) better be worth it.

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Originally Posted by ace3g

that is one of the very possible trades out there for rasho or nazr.

Memphis; Atlanta are the best suitors for the spurs to make a trade with

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Would Memphis trade with someone in their own division? Hmmmm

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So (a pipe dream) was getting Nazr for Rose, but that sure turned out okay.

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That was an anamoly. We also gave up two #1 picks and we were dealing with Isiah Thomas.

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Yes you guys know better than Stein or Express news.

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Well we've proved that a couple of times....

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Well we've proved that a couple of times....

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:lol

we'll see. I'm sure you'll have some qualified bullshyt reason though...

'no we were trying to get rid of those 3 number ones for cap reasons... this was a great trade for Greg Ostertag'

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I'm sure you'll have some qualified bullshyt reason though.

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What qualified reason? These guys aren't infallible. That's all.

you are said Atlanta would take Rasho in a second (implying he has some value). most other people say no one will take him with out giving up assets(implying w/his contract he doesn't)

someone is wrong.

I am on record as saying Rasho is more than likely a fallback for Atlanta after it strikes out with guys like Dalembert and Curry. I would think that Hunter would be a likely target for them now. They know Rasho will continue to be on the table, so what good would it do to tell anyone in the press they are considering him?

None.

Any real negotiations with ATL for Rasho are still a ways off.

do you think we can get a pick out of them for rasho?

If I haven't mentioned it yet, I also believe those calling for Childress, et.al., are reaching. The Spurs are buying payroll relief, and it will cost them.

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do you think we can get a pick out of them for rasho?

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Depends on what players are involved.

I didn't ask you to explain your position. Let's see what happens...

you might be... I know you have trouble admiting it... word starts with a w...
wrong.

here comes the of course I admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.. I just can't remember when it ever happened or in this case there is no way...

That's whotttspeak.

I've been wrong, he'll I'm just a poster on an internet site. I can definintely be wrong in this case. The media have been just as wrong at times too.

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The Spurs are buying payroll relief, and it will cost them.

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Dude you've already changed your position. You said straight out that Atl. would trade Diaw for Rasho straight up (in a second). then some people were stupid enough to say a Smith...

wow if your position morphs enough you can never be wrong... schweeet

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You said straight out that Atl. would trade Diaw for Rasho straight up

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We were speaking hypothetically.

What I think is going on in the real world, I have been stating outside my little tutoring sessions for you for quite some time now.

RIF.

what are you tutoring me in?

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We were speaking hypothetically.

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what does that mean? as opposed to what? so you weren't wrong?

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what does that mean? as opposed to what?

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As opposed to predicting a straight up Rasho for Diaw trade and declaring Rasho as Atlanta's priority for the summer.

My prediction was the Hawks would turn to trades for guys like Rasho if and when they struck out in free agency with guys like Curry and Dalembert. I even said if they are smart they would be calling Hunter right now.

I don't expect you to see the difference. Those who know, know.

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here comes the of course I admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.. I just can't remember when it ever happened or in this case there is no way...

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I can't help your stupidity or inability to read.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper in a real thread conversing with more intelligent folk

We'll have to wait until Atlanta strikes out in the free agent market before offerring up these kinds of trades. Curry and Dalembert are still in play and Joe Johnson is penciled in until further notice.

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http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...wks#post394615

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Originally Posted by TexasBalla1001

Darius Miles = Douche bag with legs

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So what's so unusual about that?

:fro :lol :fro

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Originally Posted by Rescueone

Why does every player the Spurs get or "have to have" on their team is a "good guy." Wouldn't it be nice to add an edgy baller with some spunk in his step. Are the Spurs "small market" because they shut out these types of players? We are the 10th largest city in America, Our team should reflect that. However we don't need the thugs, They can stay in Indy and Detroit. Less we forget what happened to D Robinson when K Malone elbowed him to the head, and no one came to his Defense. Everyone on the "good guy" Spurs
had their jaws on the floor and were SCARED to confront Malone. An edgy player would have at least shown some backbone and got it his face. Not his hands on his face saying "OH MY GOD" over and over (ie Tim Duncan!). If they can get this guy, get him, and leave his attitude alone. The Spurs could use a little attitude. They are the Champs, and teams are gunning for them.

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Word.
:fro :fro :fro

I have been saying for months that Rasho will be on The Nets next year.

Jefferson is a possibility....although, I wish we could get Antoine.

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Jefferson is a possibility

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Isn't Jefferson making a lot more than Rasho? Just wondering.