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43 + 8 (Parker) + 2 (Brown) + 2 (GRob) + 4 (Horry increase) = Getting close to $60MQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
But with the luxury tax rules changing, it doesn't seem like there's any penalty for going over the luxury other than dollar for dollar matching. In past years, it cost Holt big $$$ if the Spurs were to go over it.
Nice observation - It's the fine line between Suns' and Spurs' style of play every team should try to acheive, which is very tough IMO even for Spurs and Suns to toggle or fine-tune to that level of accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
If you can't land GRob then what other vet small forwards are available for the role that SA has to offer? Yes, Kukoc is past his prime, just like DFerry and Kerry before him. You want a guy who knows the game and can sit for a while and then come off the bench and make a contribution. You'd also like that guy to come for cheap.
I'm quite amazed at how Spurs fans suddenly have forgotten how the Spurs build their teams. Kukoc fits the prototypical Spur vet minimum role player profile.
The thing is...you talk about weapons...every guy on the bench could be considered a weapon in one form or another...
You know I wonder when that new coach we got started working with Kerr...I wonder what kind of impact he can have on Barry...who is probably a self taught shooter(his style is funky enough looking)...
Well if we can't get Bigg Dogg he'll come under consideration...but I really don't see why we can't get Big Dogg...his stock didn't go up as much as we thought IMO...he didn't get a chance to show much in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Me personally...I'd rather have Bo Outlaw than Kukok...this team will have plenty of shooting.Quote:
I'm quite amazed at how Spurs fans suddenly have forgotten how the Spurs build their teams. Kukoc fits the prototypical Spur vet minimum role player profile.
Barry for the first time all season stayed on his shot and didn't fade before it left his hand. And it was in Game 7 of the Finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
He's fine. He's one of us now.
:smokin
i like the new coach but part of me says you know these guys have their shots and strokes engrained in their minds and bodies, its like a reflex, it has to be ridiculously hard to change a shot or unprogram bad habits, now i think maybe this new coach won't be all he's cracked up to beQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
You want guys at the end of that bench who can contribute if called upon in championship situations. You don't want projects. Kukoc is skilled enough and has enough game left to be able to do that. We aren't talking about him starting or even being a regular backup.
I mean, this isn't a big deal, at least if you aren't one who believes that every roster spot must be filled by an in his prime All-Star.
Code:Tim Duncan $15,845,156
Tony Parker $8,400,000
Emanuel Ginobili $7,425,000
SARS $6,720,000
Nazr Mohammed $5,500,000
Brent Barry $4,950,000
Bruce Bowen $3,375,000
Beno Udrih $904,800
Devin Brown $2,500,000
Big Dogg $1,800,000
Horry $4,950,000
Player X $600,000
Total $63,344,956
I think you just like the color of Kukoc's skin better[/yourself]
LOL. When did people start calling Shareef SARS? I thought it was coincidence but this is too funny
So the Spurs are going to have TD, SAR, Nazr, Horry and Scola. You have enough bigs. You need someone credible with size who can play the 3. Remember how GRob frustrated the hell out of Melo? The great defender Glenn Robinson.
An added bonus is that Kukoc's skills are tailor made for the Spurs motion offense. He'd come cheap and fill your last clear need for next season. What's the problem?
$63M is pretty steep. At what point are we expecting the luxury tax to kick in for next season?
$62,944,956.00?
Well I'm doing my part. You can bet your last vbookie dollar that I'm gonna renew my league pass subscription if SAR is in the house.
That's a good estimate Chump...IMO...It's still doable though(If you are right about Holt)...
I don't think Devin will cost 2.5 a season though...I'm not certain that Horry is getting paid the full amount we can pay him...I think it will take more than that to get Robinson...
If the Spurs commit long term to SAR, Big Dog and Nazr this summer I will buy a Holt Cat hat.
:smokin
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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
It was just for a few plays and after Melo had been dogging it against Bowen for a long time....Grob definitely hindered his post up crap, but he wasn't all that imo
His size was enough in a rather crucial spot. That's why you want some real bench depth with players who know what they are doing.
I mean, I'd feel better going into a title round with an experienced vet who can give you spot minutes than some young dude who everyone loves yet can only contribute the waving of a towel. To hell with that.
It's an estimate. I do believe Horry is getting the full ride. Ferry did. And I think Doggie will cost more too -- just being charitable -- could even out with Devin's apparent overage if you like.Quote:
I don't think Devin will cost 2.5 a season though...I'm not certain that Horry is getting paid the full amount we can pay him...I think it will take more than that to get Robinson.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
alright...I'll give you Kukoc...and excuse me for calling him old(he's the same age I am)...I still think Outlaw fills more of a need though, if we have to go that route...
Scola fills that role, Horry fills that role. Spurs don't really have a perimeter player with size ala Hedo. For all of his offensive woes, his size on defense was quite nice.
Kukoc at 6-foot-11 on the perimeter would solve a lot of problems ... even if it's only for spot duty every third game.
I think it's going to move up substantially...Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
It was already like at 56 or something...
The league set an attendance record this year...
There were a ton of long playoff series...
And supposedly the finals rating were among the highest ever with the international audience...
I don't know exactly how to figure it though(yet)
Oh, if anyone figured Tony's first year deal, let me know -- mine was just a guess.
Doesn't Tony's deal start out about the same as Manu's? I thought the major difference between their two deals was that Parker got an extra year...