The 12th Man

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Originally Posted by easjer

Hell, just head on over to UH and rid yourself of the confusion, while entertaining the delusion that you are just as important in Texas as UT or A&M, Marcus.

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That made no sense whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Wesley Person

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Make it so.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

It's not about adding big game experience or leadership to the team. It's about having an experienced player deep on the bench who you can call on in spots and who won't have a problem with that role. The Spurs will be a little lucky if they have the opportunity to "waste" a spot on a player like Kukoc next season.

Yet again in this year's title run, in certain spots the Spurs called on Glenn Robinson, a guy who a month earlier had rolled off his couch and onto the Spurs' roster.

The Spurs didn't need experience or leadership, did they? No, but they benefitted from having an experienced guy deep on the bench.

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I agree that Glen Robinson came up huge for us last year. But i see that role going to Devin more this year. If healthy Devin can do all the things that you want from GRob or Kukoc, but better.

The Spurs need one of each of a Big, a Wing, and a PG.

Scola and Brown are not anywhere near the top percentile of the growth chart for their position, but the Pivot has more size options than there is on the Wing. That's why I see Devin as a bubble player. The Spurs have no Wings over 6'-6" other than Bruce. The 3rd PG could easily be a cheap Wilks, Barrett, or rookie FA like John Lucas III so the greater need is a Wing with size and LJIII with a questionable future doesn't cut it for me. A very good, no-tweener Wing has got to be found and signed next. Kukoc fills the size bill but I don't think he's that good any more. If only the Spurs had a Sanikidze ready to go.

Well there you go, the Spurs had an injury and GRob stepped up.

Kinda like DFerry in Game 2 of the 2003 1st round series against the Suns.

You never know what's going to happen in the postseason.

So that means another younger player couldn't have done the things that GRob did last year in the playoffs? A younger player couldn't hit a couple of open jumpers, or play inspired defense?

Could Wes Person's defensive liabilities allow him to average a Plus on the Plus/Minus numbers?

What are the odds? I'd say much better for an experienced vet.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Could Wes Person's defensive liabilities allow him to average a Plus on the Plus/Minus numbers?

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You have a guy who can come in and fit in your motion O. He should be able to grasp the basics of the Spurs' team D.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Could Wes Person's defensive liabilities allow him to average a Plus on the Plus/Minus numbers?

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There is a difference between not wanting to play D (GRob before coming over) and not being able to play D (wesley person now). Wesley person wouldn't be a good signing.

Person can fit in the Spurs' D. It's amazing how the defensive abilities of players suddenly appear when they join the Spurs. Perhaps it comes from having 1 or 2 shotblockers backing up guys should they get beat by their man.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Person can fit in the Spurs' D. It's amazing how the defensive abilities of players suddenly appear when they join the Spurs. Perhaps it comes from having 1 or 2 shotblockers backing up guys should they get beat by their man.

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I forgot that the Spurs had that magical dust that can make over the hill players that CAN'T (Not won't) play D anymore suddenly D up. Wesley person didn't play in 3 of the games against the spurs because he was too big a liability on the Defensive end. The fact that the Nuggets couldn't buy an open shot to fall shows you just how much they thought of his defensive abilities.

The Spurs apparently sprinkled some on Glenn Robinson because everyone and their dog was surprised that he actually showed some defensive effort.

Sorry man, the Spurs' recent playoff history runs counter to your argument.

How could you go wrong with the brother of the Rifleman?

Question.

I think the GRob was just a new guy trying to fit in and knowing that his likelyhood of getting a ring was high. It's easy to put forth the effort and accept small cash in the short term but once you start talking long term, it becomes a whole other ball game. The short bursts of defensive intensity and teamplay from someone like GRob could easily go back to the non-defensive ball hogging tendencies of the past. GRob had a lot to gain by putting extra effort in and it paid off. Both in his repaired rep and future contract. Maybe he truly is a changed man by going through his humbling experience of last year and finally being part of a team but I don't think he'll take small potatoes to be here again and he has to go for his one last good contract so a short term signing doesn't seem likely either. It's an awesome luxury to have someone of his caliber as one of our 10th-12th guys on the bench but he still has enough game left in him that he's not going to want to settle for that. And we've already got some veteran talent on the team so I think we should be focusing on a young guy to fit the long 3 bill.

Comparing Person and Kukoj, who is a better hustler? Perhaps the question should be, does either one hustle?