Suns better hope they do something next season because it maybe their last chance :lol
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Suns better hope they do something next season because it maybe their last chance :lol
Spurs better do something this season or it could be a loss to Phoenix.
i hope robert sarver gets screwed over in this deal he seems like an ass.
as for the suns, if you want a guy who can eventually start to take over for an aging nash and keep the suns a serious contender then you cant afford to lose joe johnson. that team has a number of great athletes but without a good quarterback at point they aren't much.
Spurs were 6-2 against suns last season, nice try though
Phoenix got rid of their weakest link in Q. Richardson and now play a traditional style. The spurs will hate a bigger lineup by the suns. The suns will own them.
Them not playing defense is their weakness and since they haven't corrected it, goodnight for them.
Putting Marion at the small forward is a big improvement on defense by itself. They also are now a much better rebounding team with 3 players capable of getting 10 or more rebounds with Thomas, Stoudemire, and Marion.Quote:
Originally Posted by tophy7
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The suns are much improved defense and using your quote doesn't make your argument any better. Marion can't guard the paint or strong power forwards. That was a joke to put him there. Thomas can guard power forwards and they can do some cross matching with Marion guarding the more athletic guy and Thomas guarding the stronger player. They might improve 5-10 from last year on defense.
As long as D'antoni is there they're not playing defense
Small lineups aren't supposed to play defense and now Phoenix has a normal lineup. They still won't be a great defensive team but they've greatly improved that part.Quote:
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Thomas can't shut down any of these PF's Duncan, KG, Dirk, Sheed & J Oneal
Waste of a trade, their "defense" might go down 2 points but so will their offense
Why would their offense go down? Q. Richardson was the weakest link on that suns offense and now they replace him with a reliable shooter in Kurt Thomas.
You are wrong. Just add up their shooting percentage as a team with Kurt and the rest.
slowing down the suns is going to hurt their shooting % because they get a lot of easy transition buckets.
15 ppg for Q for the season where he was just used as a spot shooter on a team that's loaded compared to 11.5 ppg on a weak ass team in a weak ass conference. As for marion going back to SF who cares? Spurs would just put Manu on him since he can't create a shot for himself and put Bowen on Joe J where he will shut him down like he does every other player he guards. Thomas on Duncan is a laugher and no need to even go any further.
Suns bench will consist of Barbosa(Still Garbage)/Hunter (If he stays)/Jim Jackson (35 years old, so he'll be done since you think Bowen is done at the same age)/McCarty (FA)/Bo Outlaw (Who cares)/Voshkul ( :lol ) and their defensive specialist :lol Bell
Weak bench still, weak defensive team still because of an offensive minded coach = Spurs will own them again
oddly enough, the suns' poor transition defense is going to hurt them against the spurs (never thought i would ever make that statement).
transition defense (and total team defense) is something that requires the entire team to buy into, not just adding a defensive minded player. we've seen running teams like the suns in the past in the nba try to add such a player to address their team defense deficiencies (dallas with bell, denver with buckner). it hasn't worked.
Adding Thomas doesn't improve their defense, and while Amare is capable of 10 rebounds, it's not something he does on average. He's a pretty weak rebounder for his career at 8.5 per game. I also think he's no better on Duncan than Marion would be, and Thomas has prove in the past that he can't guard Tim.
You don't just go out and get a fair defender PF and announce that now you're going to play defense. I agree that Mike D'entures is the problem. His philosphy was to LET players go down the lane so that you could leak out on the break. They'll need a new coach, or they will waste the primes of their best players like Cuban did with Nellie.
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i think hunter frustrates duncan more than thomas.
And they'll probably lose him to FA since they won't have any money to pay him with the starters making 55 mil :lol
It's funny how everyone wanted to get Bell and now that Phoenix has him he isn't that good. That is bullshit and Thomas is an improvement over Stoudemire on defense. Stoudemire can stay out of foul now that Thomas is there. Thomas can guard Duncan and it is not a laughtor. Duncan will not explode on Thomas but will get his usual. Duncan is no Shaq.Quote:
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Amare never guarded Duncan in the 1st place so he was never in foul trouble (by the way to get in foul trouble you actually have to attempt to play defense). Also when has Thomas ever played good D on Duncan?
If you saw Duncan at 25 or 26 compared to now he is not quite as athletic as he was. I don't see Thomas having as much trouble with Duncan now as in the past. Everyone had trouble with Duncan at that time.
It couldn't be the fact that he played the whole postseason injured could it?
Two bad wheels will do that to a man. If you think he's lost anything when healthy you need a clue.Quote:
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