His stats have slowly decline since 2000-2001. It is not all due to injury. People tend to slow down at 30 a little compared to being young and athletic.
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His stats have slowly decline since 2000-2001. It is not all due to injury. People tend to slow down at 30 a little compared to being young and athletic.
Playing 69 and 66 games in those last 2 years had nothing to do with it? He's finally having an uninterrupted preason. Let him have a full year before claiming he's downhill.
Garnett is 30 too, he's older than Duncan, is he going downhill?
Garnett is 28 I believe. They aren't over the hill but don't expect them to be dominating like they were at their prime. Everyone peaks at a different age and I feel Duncan peaked at 26.
If you look at Duncan's stats they've always hovered around the 21-23 ppg mark, only once did he top that in 01 when he averaged 25 and if you see by the stats it was because he shot 80% from the line adding to more points. So you can't say he's declining.
For the 3rd time I'll post it
Duncan Born: Apr 25, 1976
Garnett Born: May 19, 1976
Duncan is 1 month older, so you're just showing your bias when you said KG is in his prime and Duncan isn't.
I've derailed the thread, sorry about that thread starter, I won't say anymore on this comparison, there's the other thread for that.
KG hit his prime in 2003-2004 while Duncan hit his prime in 2000-2001. The stats don't lie.
KG will decline quicker than Tim will, simply because his game IS athleticism, and Tim's IS NOT. You also must not follow basketball or it's history very closely. Big men do NOT peak in their mid 20s. They peak AFTER 30, and often have effective careers into their late 30s and even early 40s in some cases (Kareem, Parish, Willis).
Duncan used to be based on athleticism but now he depends more on power. He will not be the same as he was 4 years ago. KG is still getting better because he dedicates his summer so much to training it is sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Again, no history knowledge. Tim has NEVER been a great leaper, or very quick. His game is about moves, counter moves, and knowing where to be and where the ball is at all times. That is why his career rebounding numbers are far and above an athlete and leaper like Amare, 12.5 to 8.5. Tim has the game between his ears.
You didn't watch Duncan 5 years ago. That is what made him so good is that he the athleticism at that time. He now is pulling a Webber on finding other ways to be effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
I've watched pretty much every game he's played in silver and black, from 1997 to today. While he is a professional athlete, his athleticism has never been more than maybe the 50th percentile of the NBA.
He was very active in 99 when they won the championship. The combination with his speed and height made it so hard to get a good shot that year. He is not been at that level since on defense.
if garnett played with duncan's approach to the game (yes, a lot of it is 'fundamental') then maybe he would have made the playoffs this season.
troll is running on fumes right now.
So are you saying Duncan doesn't need athleticism to be great. Rasho should be the next all star. You are not giving enough credit to Duncan's speed and losing some of it will hurt him big time.
The Spurs are lucky to have Manu and TP at their current contracts. The good times will continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
you are missing the point and duncan is 20 times the skilled player that rasho is, regardless of athletic ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursdaone
duncan's athletic ability hasn't dropped off that much, if at all, and your trolling isn't going to change that.
He was Finals MVP with two bum ankles. Any honest person would admit that affected his athleticism.Quote:
So are you saying Duncan doesn't need athleticism to be great.
He was still active despite his terrible ankle injuries. :rolleyes People on here actually think he is going to get better next year. I highly doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Indeed he was.Quote:
He was still active despite his terrible ankle injuries.
No Spur fan would ever say Duncan should just retire.
You're a fraud.
Probably wolves009 posting from his gammy's on vacation.
this was his worse year
I think he could be better if he was healthy
this was his year he was inured alot though
he also played in summer games so he less time off in offseason and was worn out
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Originally Posted by Spursdaone
Is that because KG has time in the summer to dedicate himself? :D Must be a lot easier for KG since he doesn't have to play an extra 3 weeks of the most intensive basketball huh?
This again? Isn't it getting boring now? Big men peaking at 26? What is this? Tennis?
Duncan atheletic? Over the hill at 29?
Garnett 28 years old? Sheesh, the posts are filled with errors and baseless opinions.
garnett is not in the same class of franchise player as timmy and shaq. you put td or shaq on a team and you are guaranteed at a minimum to be in the playoffs and make it past the 1st round.
if i had to pinpoint the reasons, i'd say it's because garnett does not have the post game that those two do and he tends to disappear a lot at the end of games.
i am definitely glad that the spurs have td for half the price of a shaq or garnett. good job, holt cat.