Did Spurs Kill SAR Deal?

Damn. I lost $4 Vbookie geez.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Brent Barry: Came to the Spurs last summer for less money and no chance to start when he had offers on the table for more money and a chance to start.

Bruce Bowen: Has turned down $10's of millions of dollars to play on the Spurs.

Devin Brown: Turned down a guaranteed contract with the Denver Nuggets a few years ago to try out with the Spurs.

Rasho Nesterovic: Turned down more money and an automatic starting job for less money and having to prove himself in training camp.

Tim Duncan: Saved the Spurs money by opting out early.

Tony Parker: Could have hardballed the Spurs into a bigger contract by becoming a free agent this summer.

Mike Wilks: Turned down a two-year contract offer from the Rockets to join the Spurs.

And that's just players who make up this roster. Explain how this all happened.

Magic?

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No, Pop.

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he is friends with kidd, he starts there, and they are a title contender

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Well, two out of three isn't bad. NJ hasn't been a title contender in two full seasons, and even SAR isn't likely to change that.

Who's SAR?

We don't need him; he's not spurs material.

Scola and marshall would fit much better.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

SAR isn't what the Spurs need. He costs too much for a 6th or 7th man and I believe he lacks the intensity and winner's mentality. I may be wrong but that has been my personal observation over the years.

I can't say that I've ever seen him get on the floor for a loose ball, although he has made a game-winning shot or two. I suppose I could be convinced otherwise, but I just haven't seen it so far.

With that said, I believe that a player like Scola or Oberto at $3-4 M/yr. would be an affordable price for a pivot player. Even Donyell Marshall at a slightly higher price would be a better fit for the Spurs with his 3-point shooting and length, and he makes many more extra-effort plays than does SAR.

Let him go to Jersey where he can start. I'd rather get better value for a Spurs' type of player.

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Great post...I agree...and thought the rumors were/are just a bit overblown, because I think the front office would see this as well.

I think we should fall in lock step with the "Mr. Body" mode of thinking and shut this board down because we cannot have any discussions about anything this summer.

Shut up already, your act is tired.

PS...Learn about the CBA.

I don't think SAR wants to be here because the high expectations and he wouldn't get the money here as if he went somewhere else like NJ. He likes cash.

RIF

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I don't think SAR wants to be here because the high expectations and he wouldn't get the money here as if he went somewhere else like NJ. He likes cash.

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Where is NJ getting all this cash?

under the table?

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Originally Posted by exstatic

It was a rumor that didn't pan out. That happens...a LOT.

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Especially with the Spurs.

Man, if we had traded for Vince -- we coulda won the championship this year.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

It's still 'highly unlikely' up until the point he makes a decision. Which will probably be the Nets.

What people don't seem to get is why basketball players play basketball, which is to maximize their potential and feel good about their efforts and accomplishments. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, a good player would rather play an active, important, even major role for a decent team than play half or a quarter of the minutes for a contender that doesn't really need him. It's not ego at all... it's more like pride, or a sense of self-worth. It's what caused Malone to finally turn San Antonio down (even if he was a goob during the whole process).

If you understand players and their motivations, their senses of self-worth, you can see why Abdur-Rahim is highly unlikely to join the team for a small, in-active role. Maybe once he's accomplished more and his career is dwindling, he'd accept a diminished role, but this is a player in the prime of his career and the prime of his life. Who expects him to dampen his spirits in this way?

Some fall into the 'Marcus Bryant' kind of thinking, where a player is insane if he doesn't immediately fall into the arms of the Spurs for whatever 5 minute incremental scraps he'll receive. And then people bad-mouth them for making good decisions.

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Excellant points.

chump, i agree with you we cou dl of won a champ this year, but since we did it is meanlingless

if you are a nets fans
would you rather have KMart for the MAX
or SAR for the MLE?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Man, if we had traded for Vince -- we coulda won the championship this year.

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They would have won it with Vince Carter also.

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They would have won it with Vince Carter also.

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Debateable.

I heard minesota was intrested in RASHO and k Garnet doesn't want to play with RASHo

so what are some trade senores with rasho +beno
rasho +barry
rashoo+sign and trade devin
rasho + parker
or whatever that get us KG

KG can pla y 3 a little and we can move tim to C and play KG as a 4
i think it might be a good cominnation then nazr can come off the bench

no i would still do rasho for SAR
but i won't go it for marshall
do it for ron artest + filler

however i woudl perfer

KG over SAR
and since minesota wants rasho and KG doesn't want to play with rasho

this deal can get done
remember that KG has an OLD contract like shaq so it is higher then than "max"

Scola will be less money than SAR and while he isn't a proven NBA PF, his rep as the best PF in Europe may prove he's at the least a very capable backup for TD. We don't need both of these guys.

Meanwhile, we can either keep both centers as insurance (and keep other teams from having them) or trade one to a team without a legitimate center for an exceptional deal.

I like where we sit at this poker table. Everyone is betting into us and we have a pat hand without even going to a draw.