Time line on Scola

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

SolidD, I understood the buyout was 1.7M Euros, equating to approximately $2M U.S. dollars.

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I am confused http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/imag...s/smidrunk.gif. I thought at one point in time I argued for the 1.7M Euros figure I read in a Spanish newspaper and you confirmed it was much larger with several sources (including journalists from Argentina). I remember we even PM each other regarding this... http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/imag...es/smispin.gif. IIRC, I got the figure I posted from you (not that really matters :))

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Nocioni's contract was 3 years/$8.3M confirmed by two sources.

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Cool, and thanks for the confirmation http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/imag...miprincess.gif

That means that Scola's contract should be in the order of 3years/$9.0M with a larger buyout. It should be within the range I suggested, and probably both contracts should be very similar in terms of conditions, since it is essentially a negotiation with the same club/president.

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I am confused . I thought at one point in time I argued for the 1.7M Euros figure I read in a Spanish newspaper and you confirmed it was much larger with several sources (including journalists from Argentina).

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Last summer the only dollar amounts we talked about were American Dollars. At that time, I believe I confirmed with them it was $2M American Dollars when you said it was $1.7M American Dollars. I don't think I've ever talked to anyone about Euros.
But maybe I'm confused. :drunk

Anyway, I have no idea if the buyout went up or down from last year but just recently someone told me that it was $1.7M Euros. (Don't know if it's true or not)

so the spurs will have to use the mid level exception for scola this summer. they'll probably lose big dog then.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Last summer the only dollar amounts we talked about were American Dollars. At that time, I believe I confirmed with them it was $2M American Dollars when you said it was $1.7M American Dollars. I don't think I've ever talked to anyone about Euros.
But maybe I'm confused. :drunk

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Nope you are right, that is probably correct. I remember that I was arguing for the lower figure, so that makes sense. :)

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Originally Posted by violentkitten

so the spurs will have to use the mid level exception for scola this summer. they'll probably lose big dog then.

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If the Spurs bring in Scola (something not clear yet), they will probably still have around 2M from the rest of the MLE + 1.8M from the LLE, so they could potentially bring 2 additional decent players if they want to do it.

Assuming they resign Horry and Devin, they don't trade Rasho, we would have a roster like:

PG Tony Parker, Beno Udrih, LLE backup PG
SG Manu Ginobili, Brent Barry
SF Bruce Bowen, Devin Brown, 2M long SF
PF Tim Duncan, Robert Horry, Luis Scola
C Nazr Mohammed, Rasho Nesterovic

That's 13 players + 2 min contracts for IR fodder to carry a total of 15 players. Not bad.

Call me nutz, but under this scenario I wouldn't mind having Alan Houston once he is cut from the Knicks. You can never have enough 3-pt threats. Manu, Bruce, and Devin could hold the fort defensively at 2-3 and the Spurs could have Barry and Houston as offensive specialists. If Big Dog could play some defense, so could Alan Houston. Another choice would be to sign a long defensive minded SF project to replace Bruce Bowen.

say man, i'm not a woman.

Okay, here is the "2M Euros" article in Spanish and in computer translated English

http://www.lmcba.com.ar/2005/05-07-07/6_podio_14.htm

07 Jul : 2005
Lo tienen en la mira

En la NBA están cumpliendo los primeros pasos en la confección de los planteles para la próxima temporada y varios argentinos están expectantes, entre ellos el cordobés Fabricio Oberto.
Cumplido el draft, en el que eligen a los nuevos talentos, los equipos están abocados a renovar los contratos de los jugadores que terminan sus vínculos (agentes libres) y el siguiente paso es buscar nuevos integrantes.
El campeón San Antonio Spurs arregló la extensión contractual con Robert Horry (por tres años), y según confesó su general manager, RC Buford, ahora irán por Oberto o Luis Scola. Buford, quien junto al técnico Gregg Popovich se encargan del armado del plantel, dijo en el Web especilista en los Spurs (Woai), que «estamos siguiendo a los argentinos Oberto o Scola. Son nuestro próximo objetivo».
Desde 1997, tras el Mundial Sub-22, el equipo de Emanuel Ginóbili, sigue al pivote cordobés, pero nunca pudo concretar su fichaje. También les interesa Scola, de quien tienen los derechos tras elegirlo en el draft de 2002. Además de la experiencia, Oberto tiene la ventaja sobre su compañero de la Selección, que es jugador libre, sin contrato. En contrapartida, «Luifa» Scola está vinculado al Tau Cerámica hasta 2007 y su salida rondaría los 2.000.000 de euros.
Durante las finales de la NBA, entre Spurs y Pistons, la dirigencia de San Antonio preguntó a dos técnicos argentinos cuestiones personales de Oberto y Scola.
Otro paso que pretenden los Spurs y que incluye a Oberto es el intento de fichar al alero Donyell Marshall, de Toronto Raptors, en un cambio con el pivote esloveno Rasho Nesterovic. La salida del europeo le daría lugar al cordobés, o a Scola, en el equipo y también en el presupuesto de los Spurs.
San Antonio tiene uno de los presupuestos más bajos de la Liga. En la temporada anterior fue de 44.550.584 dólares y gran parte se lo llevan el contrato de Tim Duncan, Manu Ginóbili y Tony Parker. Si se va Nesterovic, habrá dinero para fichar a los olímpicos argentinos.En tanto, Barcelona, que «cortó» a Roberto Dueñas y Unicaja Malaga, que se desprendería de Walter Herrmann, quieren a Oberto.
El día más feliz

Ayer a las 17.30 nació, Julia, la primera hija del olímpico Fabricio Oberto y su esposa Lorena. La beba pesó 3,750 kilógramos y midió 52 centímetros. El papá dijo: «Fue el mejor partido de mi vida. Nos atendieron barbaro en la (Clínica) Sucre, quiero agradecerles. La nena está bárbara y divina».
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Now here is a rough translator version:

http://translate.google.com/translat...lr%3D%26sa%3DG

They have it in the sight

In the NBA they are fulfilling the first passages in the preparation of the establishments for the next season and several Argentineans are expectant, among them the Cordovan Fabricio Oberto.
Fulfilled draft, in that they choose to the new talents, the equipment is led to renew contracts of the players who finish to their bonds (free agents) and the following step is to look for new members.
The champion San Antonio Spurs fixed the contractual extension with Robert Horry (by three years), and according to confessed his general to manager, RC Buford, now Oberto or Luis Scola will go by. Buford, that next to technician Gregg Popovich they are in charge of the armed one of the establishment, said in the especilista Web in the Spurs (Woai), that "we are following the Argentineans Oberto or Scola. They are our next objective ".
From 1997, after the World-wide Sub-22, the equipment of Emanuel Ginóbili, follows the Cordovan pivot, but never it could make specific its draftee. Also Scola interests to them, of that they have the right after choosing it in draft of 2002. In addition to the experience, Oberto has the advantage on its companion of the Selection, that is free player, without contract. In counterpart, "Luifa" Scola is tie to the Ceramic Tau until 2007 and its exit would go up to around the 2,000,000 of euros.

During the end of the NBA, between Spurs and Pistons, the leadership of San Antonio asked two Argentine technicians personal questions of Oberto and Scola.
Another step which they try the Spurs and that includes Oberto is the attempt to file to eaves Donyell Marshall, of Toronto Raptors, in a change with the Slovenian pivot Rasho Nesterovic. The exit of the European would give rise to him to the Cordovan, or to Scola, in the equipment and also in the budget of the Spurs.
San Antonio has one of the lowest budgets of Liga. In the previous season it was of 44,550,584 dollars and great part takes the contract to it of Tim Duncan, Manu Ginóbili and Tony Parker. If Nesterovic goes away, there will be money to file to the Olympic ones argentinos.En as much, Barcelona, that "short '" to Robert Dueñas and Unicaja Malaga, who would come off themselves Walter Herrmann, they want to Oberto.
The happiest day

To 17,30 it was born yesterday, Julia, the first daughter of the Olympic Fabricio Oberto and its Lorena wife. It drinks it it weighed 3.750 kilógramos and it measured 52 centimeters. The papa said: "It was the best party of my life. They took care of barbaro to us in (Clinical) the Sucre, I want to be thankful to them. The baby is Barbarian and divine ".

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Originally Posted by violentkitten

say man, i'm not a woman.

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Ooopss... sorry violentkitten, my bad http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/imag...s/smidrunk.gif

Unwad your panties, the Spurs can't do anything for a couple of weeks.

it has been reported scola would accept 6 million for 3 year deal

but we has see

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Originally Posted by ducks

it has been reported scola would accept 6 million for 3 year deal

but we has see

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I haven't heard that one for like 2 years. Do you remember when and where you saw/heard that?

No way you do a buy-out at that rate. It just doesn't work, at $350K per year.

No way Scola does that with Nocioni signing at near $9M for 3.

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Originally Posted by ducks

but we has see

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ok, ducks, I seriously don't know what to think.

I've known for a long ass time that you don't use correct grammar, puncuation, etc...

Do you do it on purpose? are you just lazy? Or are you stupid?



I'm just curious.

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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6

ok, ducks, I seriously don't know what to think.

I've known for a long ass time that you don't use correct grammar, puncuation, etc...

Do you do it on purpose? are you just lazy? Or are you stupid?



I'm just curious.

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i've been reading that for a long time... not always agreeing with it... but i've always seen duck's writing as a spurs fan's haiku.

why not get both oberto and scola, we could use oberto as a back up C; and we could probably get him for the vet minimum

Scola Block on Jermaine

Check out the street thug move by O'Neil stomping on Scola after he had his weak stuff packed? This punk is just like Artest when it comes to anger management...that is why the Pacers will not win a championship until these idiots mature...how long will it take???

For that reason it is that I said when he was suspended it that already he had antecedents

Probably Manu could make a loan of 2 million to bring him

I don't know if Manu is allowed to do that.... Kind of like Timmy wanting to pony up the $2MM out of his own pocket to bring Parker's agent and Holt to terms.

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Originally Posted by waly.mg

Scola Block on Jermaine

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Did anybody else notice the "Lakers Suck" banner near the end of the clip... :lol :lol

a loan, not a Gift

I'm sure that Scola could easily get a loan to cover the buyout if he gets a decent contract offer (3years/$9M or so) from the Spurs. At this point, I haven't heard that the Spurs have offered him anything yet. Has anyone in Argentina heard anything regarding the negotiations or if they are even negotiating at all right now?

InArgentina Pop said that Luis Scola was a priority but that was going to depend on the money
But of all ways that he one said the last year with Manu and soon he said that Manu did not go away to any side nor by any money