Not once, but TWICE

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Or someone who posts in a thread repeatedly, while admitting to not reading the posts, while claiming to have no interest in the topic.



Of course I would. If the Spurs had been up by two at the time, they'd have won, and the refs would have given them a chance to tie or take the lead after refusing Pop's request to look at the replay. It's a perfectly valid topic for discussion, and I'm unsure why you're unable to separate the Spurs' poor play from the decision by the crew not to review two out of bounds plays.

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I'm not the one with 33,000 posts and I'm answering your replies. In any event, regarding Pop's request, not many Spurs were seen arguing the call and the time to argue is immediately, not after the timeout is ending and ABC shows a bunch of replays the refs most likely didn't even see. It's a judgement call and the refs didn't have the benefit of a slow motion replay. I don't know too many refs that would go back and review that call after that much time had elapsed.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

I'm not the one with 33,000 posts and I'm answering your replies. In any event, regarding Pop's request, not many Spurs were seen arguing the call and the time to argue is immediately, not after the timeout is ending and ABC shows a bunch of replays the refs most likely didn't even see. It's a judgement call and the refs didn't have the benefit of a slow motion replay. I don't know too many refs that would go back and review that call after that much time had elapsed.

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The fact that you continue to post doesn't mean you're answering the question that's been asked of you. "In any event" means you immediately changed the subject AGAIN. Maybe the reason I have so many posts is because people like you won't answer the fucking question. :lol

BTW, Pop was asking the refs immediately to review the Bogut call. Tirico even mentioned it on the broadcast at the time. I've said repeatedly that the Spurs made their own bed when they didn't do the things they needed to do. I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think the refs don't have to try to get those out of bounds calls correct.

EDIT: 33,000? wow.

The need to get the out of bounds calls correct

As for the rest of the calls, I was glad to see they were calling GS on those screens

I completely agree. The first one was VERY obviously out on Golden State. Duncan was begging the ref to go to the tape and he basically said "fuck you, it's their ball". Honestly, that play was HUGE and was a massive swing in momentum. Had we got that ball, I seriously doubt the game goes to OT. Instead of them scoring on that play, another 30-40 seconds would've been drained off the clock and it would've been a 4-7 point game instead of a 2 point game.

Then later, it goes off them yet again, and the refs refuse to go to the tape. The only time they actually did go to the tape when asked was in OT when we were already down 9 and it didn't matter anymore.

I honestly hope the Spurs' front office files an official complaint for the refs blatantly blowing two reviewable calls late in the game. I know it won't change anything, but replay was added into the game for a reason. I think this is a big example as to why NBA coaches need "challenges". Even if it's just two for the entire game and only in the playoffs, they need them. Refs should not be able to refuse going to the tape late in a playoff game.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

As for the rest of the calls, I was glad to see they were calling GS on those screens

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Shocking, actually. Bogut just played lazy stupid defense. It's a miracle he didn't foul out.

If the spurs fail to win this series, this game will go down as another, ".4"...or "and one on Dirk"...what shall we call it?

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

The fact that you continue to post doesn't mean you're answering the question that's been asked of you. "In any event" means you immediately changed the subject AGAIN. Maybe the reason I have so many posts is because people like you won't answer the fucking question. :lol

BTW, Pop was asking the refs immediately to review the Bogut call. Tirico even mentioned it on the broadcast at the time. I've said repeatedly that the Spurs made their own bed when they didn't do the things they needed to do. I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think the refs don't have to try to get those out of bounds calls correct?.

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I think I confused you by answering both your replies within the same paragragh. My bad. I did answer the question. Pop was seen arguing the Call AFTER ABC showed a bunch of replays and Pop didn't put up much of a fight arguing for a replay and rightfully so. Pop couldn't see Bogut's feet and the ball from the sidelines amidst all the bodies battling in the paint and the Spurs player didn't argue the call. Refs are human too and they make bad calls from time to time so cry me a river. The Spurs lost this game all on their own, not because the refs blew a couple of calls. I'm not playing the"what if" game because had those plays been reversed, there's no guarantee the Spurs were going to make a FG since nobody could throw it in the ocean. In a perfect world, you want the refs to get the calls right especially if they're reviewable, but it doesn't always work out that way.

There's no "what if" game here. I'm asking straight out if you think the refs need to get those calls correct when it matters, and you STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED IT. The Spurs played badly, but the fact remains that they played well enough to give themselves the last shot of a tie game on the road, and it was denied them. No "what if" they made it. They didn't get the ball. Tell me if you think that's okay.

BTW, a little tip about how television works: Showing Pop asking the refs to check replay after the commercial is videotape. Pop asked at the time. ABC showed it later. The Spurs didn't lose to Golden State again in the middle of the night. It was the same game showed again.

The Spurs got royally shafted last night. They should of taken the last shot in last nights game. It happened in the regular season in GS too. Same exact scenario and everything.

Refs are going to be biased against the Spurs ALWAYS. Especially against a young, fun, darling squad on the team in the most populous state, and the only playoff team left in an entire time zone, ... at home on top of that! You kiddin me? Spurs gotta built up a 20 point cushion against that hot shootin opposing team, against the ref agenda, and against the coach's brilliant 'strategy.' No lead is safe.

What sucks most, is there was a breakage in play...wether it was a timeout, or whatever. So there was PLENTY of time to take a look and they simply said, "fuck it." I'm confused...had that happened against Miami or any of Sterns other darlings, it'd still be top story on espn, and would be the talk of the playoffs. Sad but true.

not sure if this was mentioned, but remember how Danny Green was going for the ball on the ground, and Bogut just grabbed him and ripped him off, right in front of the ref no less. no call. similar to last year in the WCF, when Westbrook intentionally nailed Kawhi in the head, in front of the ref again, lost control of the ball and OKC regained a critical possession. I thought hitting someone in the head was a flagrant.

conspiracy or not, refs in the NBA are a fucking joke. i mean, how many old farts are still reffing in this league, keeping up with some of the best athletes in the world? it's like keystone cops.

moral of the story, do everything as well as you can because I don't trust the refs to call it fair. unfortunately the Spurs screwed up so much last night that we couldn't rely on objectively correct calls to help out.