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How Do You See the Glass After Game 4?
Half Full
-With Game 3 starting at 9:50 PM on Friday and Game 4 starting at 2:30 PM on Sunday, this was about as close to a back-to-back that we'll see in the playoffs. Thus, the Spurs running out of gas isn't surprising.
-If the Spurs shoot free throw at their normal percentage, they easily win the game.
-The Spurs were 2-for-17 on three-pointers outside of Ginobili. That shouldn't happen again.
-TD and TP were 13-for-39 and the Spurs could (should?) have won.
-The Spurs may have figured out how to slow Curry and Thompson.
-The defense was great outside of rebounding -- which is correctable.
-The offense should improve playing at home in Game 5.
-Facing adversity early in the playoffs will help mentally as the postseason unfolds.
Half Empty
-Curry and Thompson struggled and the Spurs still lost.
-Parker is hurting again and the Spurs don't have enough creators to score consistently if he's not 100%.
-If the Spurs are struggling to score this much against Golden State, will they even crack 70 against the Grizzlies?
-The Warriors have actually played better on the road. They could steal Game 5, especially with the Spurs feeling all the pressure.
-Bogut, like always, is keeping Duncan out of the paint -- and that's making him less consistent on offense.
-The Spurs wasted the one hot shooting night Ginobili will have this series.
-Leonard, Green and Splitter look shaky on the offensive end ... and that's difficult to deal with when they should be the main supporting players.
-In the big picture, the Spurs needed a five game series to stay fresh enough to have a realistic shot of doing anything in future rounds. A series win in six or seven games will be too taxing even if the Spurs are able to advance.
-If not for a miracle, the Spurs would be down 3-1 right now. If not for Parker's amazing first half in Game 3, it could have been a sweep.
How do you see it? I'm leaning toward Hall Full but I see some merit in the dark side . . . .
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Half empty, because they play again in 2 days and the Spurs were horribly tired in the 4th quarter today. Spur will have no legs in the 4th quarter on Tuesday. Pop screwed up with the lineups way too much, and because the stars are tired that means even more Neal and Bonner. This was a huge game for the Spurs. I think Warriors take the series now.
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Half full. Mark Jackson is in love with Barnes/Jack isos.
Draw Bogut away from the rim, defeat the Warriors.
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The loss is full empty IMO
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half full, yes the warriors stars didnt play well but its not like we did either. best of 3 with 2 of them at home.
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Half full, just for the fact that the defense is better overall after game 1.
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Spurs will win game 5. They're the better team.
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Half full. We're not going to miss al those FT and 3s again. Plus I think our guys will be more pissed than sad right now, they let this one away and I think will come out swinging on tuesday.
We just need to play more PnR, punish them inside and make our fucking open shots and freebies.
But I don't get how every time we play against Jarret Jack, we make him look like Jordan. I hate that guy.
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TBH, i see the glass well up in Spurs a*s. I lost all my confidence in our possibiliy to overcame.
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I'll look at it half full to keep my composure. :lol
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It's all on Pop, if he plays the rotation that won us 58 games we win.
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Spurs may end up winning this series, but this boneheaded choker will haunt the Spurs as its another game of wear and tear. I think the series is a coin flip. Disgusting loss today.
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Spurs will win this in 6. GS got lucky today with the way the Spurs crumbled in OT.
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I'm of the Half Full variety, though the 40+ minutes for Duncan and the 37 for Manu will hurt on Tuesday.
All Spurs fans should root for OKC on Monday. That series, no matter who wins, needs to be extended like ours. I don't want a rested Memphis or Thunder...
We still have home court advantage, and in both games in Oakland we looked much better than the first two games. I'd give us the edge in the series, but it won't be easy.
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i have no faith in Popovich
his well chronicled love affairs become magnified in the playoffs and he fails to attack matchups and instead rolls with his pre-determined rotations
hes killed any confidence Splitter and Leonard is shook offensively
itll be tough for the Spurs to beat GS and Popovich
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Brunodf
It's all on Pop, if he plays the rotation that won us 58 games we win.
The biggest criticism of Pop throughout his career is that he panics too much and tries too hard with bad rotations.
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Don't see how you can see it is anything other than half empty. This is probably the worst the Warriors could have played and yet the Spurs could not find a way to get it done. It is not a given that the Spurs will win both home games and it will be very tough to win another game in Golden State.
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the great jarret fucking jack
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We have the best coach in the league, period.
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Half full, best of 3 with homecourt..
It'll be interesting to see if refs continue to call Golden State, particularly Bogut, for moving screens and shit..the Warriors offense is limited when they aren't given a pass to cheat, tbh..
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Half empty because of Pops decisions. Golden State outplayed us at small ball for two whole games. We go big and dominate Game 3 and Pop goes small again to throw this game away.
Just not sure I trust Pop after letting Neal get torched in the 4th. We'll see.
I still think the Spurs win in 6.
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I didn't read a damn word, but I'll tell you how I see it anyway . . .
I see a soft, spineless team that's on the verge of choking again (forget this series, which they'll probably still eke out in seven; I'm talking big picture). This is precisely why a mediocre, inexperienced upstart such as the Warriors had boundless confidence going into this series, because deep down, the rest of the league knows this team is a joke.
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I have no idea; the Spurs still haven't had a good team shooting display (1 player has had their moments in spurts each game) in this series; maybe that won't happen and Spurs will have to win 2 more ugly games.
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rascal
Spurs will win this in 6. GS got lucky today with the way the Spurs crumbled in OT.
I just had a stroke...
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Namundy
We have the best coach in the league, period.
Somebody should let the best coach in the league know that Neal sucks.
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Spurs in 6 as I predicted long before this series started. Everything going according to plan.
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Half full.
Yes, losing Game 4 really really sucks, but if after Game 2 you asked if I'd be happy with a 2-2 series heading into Game 5 I'd absolutely take it.
Sucks we could be closing this series out, but you know what, we didn't deserve Game 1, so I guess it all balances out.
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Spurs will win game 5 by blowout. At home, we will not miss all those fts and open shots. And I think we're over Curry and Thompson going for 30 point a half.
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Half-empty, the Spurs are relying on the big 3 way too much(it could be everyone else is fading though). I still think we win the series.
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Pretty low on the worried meter tbh so Half Full. Spurs have dominated the last 2 games like the W's dominated the first 2 games.
The Spurs style is more sustainable over a series while the W's still have to rely on fluke shooting.
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Half empty.
just gave a team on the verge of folding life. A team that also plays better away from home.
now the old guys are exhausted and zero time between. Blown opportunity.
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Half full tbh, but this loss is still demoralizing as hell. If they come out with the necessary focus the Spurs should win in 7. Helps that the possible Game 7 gives the Spurs 3 days off, meaning they can hold a practice if need be. Golden State has surprisingly been a tough opponent.
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half empty, duncan is already giving out and its game 4 of the 2nd round. their bigs in foul trouble, terrible shooting by the dubs, curry hurt, and still no win. the longer this series goes the more it favors gs.
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mingus
Spurs will win game 5 by blowout. At home, we will not miss all those fts and open shots. And I think we're over Curry and Thompson going for 30 point a half.
see game 1 and 2
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Tbh, I'm mostly worried about how gassed the Spurs look. Unfortunately, the next two games have only again a days rest between them.
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Regular year both of these teams don't look WCF/Finals good. But given the circumstances this year with injuries.... it doesn't matter.
Any of these 2 teams can win. With homecourt, I like the Spurs chances.
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Honestly, I don't really care if Spurs advance to the finale.
Whether or not Spurs advance doesn't change the fact that they haven't played well for a long time and, that, outside of some miracle, they aren't championship material.
Other western conference teams are equally as bad, so Spurs could limp their way to the final before being swept by Miami but I'm not rooting especially for that because I barely enjoy seeing Spur playing that kind of crap basketball.
More globally, I don't remember playoffs that have bad as bad as this year. It's just Miami and a bunch of flawed and/or injured teams. That's just poor quality basketball played all over the place.
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I'm worried about our Core. TP hurting, Manu and Timmy looking gassed and old. I just hope our old men can keep it up at this high level of play.
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Both teams have lost games on the road that they totally should have won. Spurs bounced back well from their first loss. Hopefully they respond in a similar way. This time they'll be at home so they have that going for them.
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Half full, we didnt play that well and we had the game won till right at the end. No legs= No shots going down. They will have and extra evening to rest, they will be alright.
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Half full.
It's a 3 game series with home-court advantage and the spurs just coming out of a loss. I expect them to bounce back.
That said, this series pretty much destroyed the small hopes i had of them winning against Miami. Sure, I don't expect them to win against Miami, but Prior to sucking in the regular season i was at least confident this teams pushes Miami to six...A Miracle or two would have done it.
Now, it feels like they would be needing a miracle every game to even have a shot.
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robdiaz2191
see game 1 and 2
Our offense sucked for different reasons in 1 & 2. Today the we just missed shots. In the third quarter we had open looks, but missed them all. At one point we were 5/18 in that quarter, not including fts. Had just a few more of those gone in we would've gone up 14-18 points and its a whole different ball game. At home were not missing those. Not saying it can't happen, because it can, but I give us the benefit of the doubt by a large margin.
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Half full. Spurs made too many silly unforced turnovers and it's not all because of fatigue or the Warriors defense. Spurs played summer league ball during the playoffs and that just isn't going to cut it even with a lead
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I'm really disappointed in the team. Spurs should have won this game. Once again, of all things, the offense failed miserably. They won't win too may games shooting in the 30's.
I still see a Champions comeback this series but they will be so tired against Memphis, I would not be surprised if they get swept or beaten 4-1.
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Have Empty
Thompson shows up on the road
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Full empty... Horrendous defensive rebounding and FT shooting will continue. Pop has not learned his lesson in not playing Bonner and Neal at crucial times. His decision to cut Jackson will continue to haunt this team, he would have been a perfect defensive matchup for Harrison Barnes, who is killing this team when Curry and Thompson are struggling. Warriors take this series in 6.
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Empty. Spurs look old and tired. Tim and Manu shouldn't have to log this many minutes, in a loss no less. They're just too old to play that much, even with as great as Timmy still performs. Our role players struggles on the road is what really kills this team. Green, Kawhi, Splitter, Neal, Bonner, and Diaw all play shitty on the road in big games for some reason. They all miss their shots. Even with all the missed FT's, O-rebounds, and dumb mistakes we make down the stretch, we still could've EASILY won this game if any of those guys make their damn shots, most of which are open looks. But they all fail on the road for some reason. Thus, the Spurs fail, and will continue to do so. I think we'll win this series, but that's it.
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Harrison Barnes was 9-26 from the field with 4 turnovers..how is he killing the Spurs?:lol..
And Klay Thompson goes off when he's wide open, it has nothing to do with the location of the games..if you watch game 2 again, about 11 of his 13 makes were open shots..
He hasn't done anything noteworthy since Leonard has been guarding him, tbh..
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Yes the 30% shooting Stephen Jackson was missed today when the offense stunk. Brilliant analysis.
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Full..
Spurs have played much much better D the last few games and could easily be up 3-1 heading home. They have a chance to succeed where they failed last year and win a big game 5 at home. I expect them to win a close one and close it out in 6 back in GS..
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Tbh completely half full. It isn't at all the feeling I had when we lost to Memphis or OKC the last couple years. I predicted we would lose to Memphis before the series because they were just too rugged for us and we were just too banged up overall. OKC had three superstars getting superstar calls and we just had no answer. But to me it is obvious we are the far superior team, we just ran out of gas tonight. I have no doubt we'll win this series unless Curry and Thompson shoot like they did in games 1 and 2 the rest of the way, but I think we'll be fine. Everyone lighten up, it's a best of 3 and we have HCA
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Spurs have this series if Pop will stop going small, it kills them everytime because they just stand around and ISO or dump it into Tim and don't rebound if he misses. We had GS in foul trouble with all there bigs in the 1st half and what do we do? We go away from attacking and penetrating to just taking stupid jump shots and ISO. Manu gets on a nice streak and what does Pop do, sits him on the bench. Neal is out there instead of Joseph who can actually play defense, Gary Neal did nothing to earn that spot over Cojo. Parker needs to man up, he played like he was scared to hurt his leg.
3/4's full but we need to put these punks to bed in the next 2 games. I'd love to win in GS just to see the crowd cry, Mark Jackson Cry and Curry cry.
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mingus
Spurs will win game 5 by blowout. At home, we will not miss all those fts and open shots. And I think we're over Curry and Thompson going for 30 point a half.
Spurs don't blow anyone out.
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I feel like we've got the Warriors figured out - just need to make some open shots on Tuesday. It boils down the Spurs making more open looks than the Warriors hit difficult shots - of course GSW hit so many tough shots in G1 & G2 that they still pose a very legitimate threat. Hell down the stretch of this one they (Jack) were hitting shots with a hand in the face & relying on the Spurs to miss wide open looks or Duncan to fail to take advantage of a size mismatch.
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The Spurs the last 2 games have controlled the tempo almost 100% of the time. It is like they needed a few games to get used to playing GS and now they have them figured out. The D is there we just have to make the shots we usually make in game 5. And hit our damn FT's..
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:cry glass is shattered :cry
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Full..
Spurs have played much much better D the last few games and could easily be up 3-1 heading home. They have a chance to succeed where they failed last year and win a big game 5 at home. I expect them to win a close one and close it out in 6 back in GS..
They could just as easily be down 1-3 if Manu doesn't hit that lucky shot (yes it was lucky by the way he has been shooting).
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Spurs don't blow anyone out.
Theyre due for one.
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They could just as easily be down 1-3 if Manu doesn't hit that lucky shot (yes it was lucky by the way he has been shooting).
I choose Half Full..
And I am sticking with it..
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They could just as easily be down 1-3 if Manu doesn't hit that lucky shot (yes it was lucky by the way he has been shooting).
Well he missed the same exact shot today that would have basically won it. He wasn't supposed to miss BOTH of them.
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-In the big picture, the Spurs needed a five game series to stay fresh enough to have a realistic shot of doing anything in future rounds. A series win in six or seven games will be too taxing even if the Spurs are able to advance.
If any fan felt the Spurs were too old and beat up to even get into a tough series I don't know why they bothered watching? How many teams ever cruise to an NBA final?
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timvp
Half Empty
-Curry and Thompson struggled and the Spurs still lost.
Thompson struggled, but Curry was 7-15 from the field and 5-10 from 3. Hardly struggling IMO. The Spurs should be ok though as long as one of them is off.
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timvp
-Parker is hurting again and the Spurs don't have enough creators to score consistently if he's not 100%.
For all of the talk about Currys injury, it was Parker that played worse....on a supposedly much less significant injury. This is very concerning indeed.
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-If the Spurs are struggling to score this much against Golden State, will they even crack 70 against the Grizzlies?
-The Warriors have actually played better on the road. They could steal Game 5, especially with the Spurs feeling all the pressure.
Agree x2, especially with Parkers status in doubt.
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timvp
-Bogut, like always, is keeping Duncan out of the paint -- and that's making him less consistent on offense.
Timmys been quite consistent (19,23,23 and 19) with the scoring. What hasn't been consistent is how he's doing it. That said, it was disappointing to see him forcing difficult angle shots late in the fourth. I'm really torn as to whether or not to try getting Bogut into foul trouble early on. It looked for all the world thew Timmy was going to have an open run of the paint when Bogut picked up number three in the first half....but they went away from him.
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-The Spurs wasted the one hot shooting night Ginobili will have this series.
He was 8-18. Is that what it's come to for Manu being "hot"? Considering his performances of late, I'm inclined to jump on board with that assessment though. That's very worrisome going forward though.
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timvp
-Leonard, Green and Splitter look shaky on the offensive end ... and that's difficult to deal with when they should be the main supporting players.
Leonard especially. I've lost count of the open threes he's missed. Going into the final three games, if he and Green can't hit 3's consistently at a 37-40% clip this series will most likely not end well.
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timvp
-In the big picture, the Spurs needed a five game series to stay fresh enough to have a realistic shot of doing anything in future rounds. A series win in six or seven games will be too taxing even if the Spurs are able to advance.
The first two games showed us what "rest" does for this team. And the shooting still hasn't come back from that hiatus tbh. I don't think that short series benefit this team very much.
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-If not for a miracle, the Spurs would be down 3-1 right now. If not for Parker's amazing first half in Game 3, it could have been a sweep.
It took quite an improbable stretch of shooting accuracy from Curry in game one to make that happen as well. Likewise from Thompson in game two. These things cancel IMO.
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How do you see it? I'm leaning toward Hall Full but I see some merit in the dark side . . . .
For this series: It's half full. I think they will advance despite they way they are playing. It will probably take 7, but they will survive.
For the playoffs: It's bone dry. I don't see much success beyond this round against either OKC or MEM, especially if they continue this crappy shooting streak and Parker is hobbled.
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Both teams have lost games on the road that they totally should have won. Spurs bounced back well from their first loss. Hopefully they respond in a similar way. This time they'll be at home so they have that going for them.
Home/ away doesn't seem to matter in this series. GS played better in San Antonio and San Antonio played better in GS.
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Glass is completely empty. If Curry and Thompson are playing at their normal level on Tuesday, it's game over.
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If you hold a team known more for scoring than defense to 84 points at home in regulation, you should win. Period.
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We'll win the next game, we will not shoot this bad again from the FT line. If we come out full blaze from the 1st to the 4th, we have it.
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Honestly, I don't really care if Spurs advance to the finale.
Whether or not Spurs advance doesn't change the fact that they haven't played well for a long time and, that, outside of some miracle, they aren't championship material.
Other western conference teams are equally as bad, so Spurs could limp their way to the final before being swept by Miami but I'm not rooting especially for that because I barely enjoy seeing Spur playing that kind of crap basketball.
More globally, I don't remember playoffs that have bad as bad as this year. It's just Miami and a bunch of flawed and/or injured teams. That's just poor quality basketball played all over the place.
Partially agree. Agree the Spurs have been playing pretty poorly for a while now, but how can you not care if they advance? To me, you still have to find joy in watching this team play. I know it's not easy, it's only recently Spurs fans have been used to really easy playoffs then quick burn outs. Before, even in title years, it was a lot of memorable series with up's and downs and doubts.
But lately it's either a sweep or the Spurs getting burnt out. This, while tough at times and not what it used to be from a talent perspective, is still fun because it's a struggle.
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Darius Bieber
Glass is completely empty. If Curry and Thompson are playing at their normal level on Tuesday, it's game over.
Curry still shot above his season % today.
And Thompson's game 2 was more an abberration than 3 & 4. EVERY shot (save 1 or 2) he took was contested. He's not going to make a high percentage of those in most games.
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Partially agree. Agree the Spurs have been playing pretty poorly for a while now, but how can you not care if they advance? To me, you still have to find joy in watching this team play. I know it's not easy, it's only recently Spurs fans have been used to really easy playoffs then quick burn outs. Before, even in title years, it was a lot of memorable series with up's and downs and doubts.
But lately it's either a sweep or the Spurs getting burnt out. This, while tough at times and not what it used to be from a talent perspective, is still fun because it's a struggle.
This isn't fun because it shouldn't be nearly this big a struggle against a team this mediocre. If this were a one off, maybe you don't read too much into it, but they've now done this three of the last four playoffs.
The Celtics and Lakers, the other two veteran, savvy, former champions, I don't ever remember doing this in series they were heavily favored in. In fact, the only series I can think of where one almost did, was the Hawks taking the Celtics to 7 in '08. But in fairness, it was the big three's first playoff series together. The Spurs have no such excuse, yet here they are again, hanging on for dear life against a mediocre team, proving all those who constantly insinuate that they're vulnerable, soft and just not that good, right.
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As I've stated before, half empty. You can say the Spurs have homecourt advantage, but the home teams this series are 2-2. What the Warriors have is the advantage of youth and energy, and that's far bigger than homecourt advantage. If Ginobili and Duncan got that tired at the end of game 4, they're going to get way more tired at the end of game 5. I really think Warriors will win this series after how badly Pop screwed up today. Not only did Pop lose the game today, but he also wore out Duncan.
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timtonymanu
Tbh, I'm mostly worried about how gassed the Spurs look. Unfortunately, the next two games have only again a days rest between them.
including SA-Oakland trip
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For this series, half full. The Warriors aren't really that good...they got lucky that the Spurs were so flat tonight. Granted, they can win this series, but it would take an epic collapse from the Spurs.
Moving forward, it's more half empty. The team is too inconsistent to be champions or even conference champions. I'm not counting them out, though. There's still time to get better.
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Got every single shot we wanted. Just couldn't make them.
Hope Curry is a slow healer.
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Spurs21Fan4Ever
As I've stated before, half empty. You can say the Spurs have homecourt advantage, but the home teams this series are 2-2. What the Warriors have is the advantage of youth and energy, and that's far bigger than homecourt advantage. If Ginobili and Duncan got that tired at the end of game 4, they're going to get way more tired at the end of game 5. I really think Warriors will win this series after how badly Pop screwed up today. Not only did Pop lose the game today, but he also wore out Duncan.
I fear this......
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Spurs21Fan4Ever
What the Warriors have is the advantage of youth and energy, and that's far bigger than homecourt advantage.
Because young teams do GREAT playoffs?
To some extent, we've been a bit F'ed by the schedule makers. No extra day offs between any games 1-6? No other series is in that situation. And I can't recall any in recent past that went that way.
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Spurs21Fan4Ever
As I've stated before, half empty. You can say the Spurs have homecourt advantage, but the home teams this series are 2-2. What the Warriors have is the advantage of youth and energy, and that's far bigger than homecourt advantage. If Ginobili and Duncan got that tired at the end of game 4, they're going to get way more tired at the end of game 5. I really think Warriors will win this series after how badly Pop screwed up today. Not only did Pop lose the game today, but he also wore out Duncan.
If some of the Spurs role players step up in game 5 and Kawhi gets his act together they won't need Duncan to be so crucial down the stretch. And I have faith that Timmy will suck it up and play well late in game 5 if he has too. He is a champion for a reason.
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Re: How Do You See the Glass After Game 4?
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TD 21
This isn't fun because it shouldn't be nearly this big a struggle against a team this mediocre. If this were a one off, maybe you don't read too much into it, but they've now done this three of the last four playoffs.
The Celtics and Lakers, the other two veteran, savvy, former champions, I don't ever remember doing this in series they were heavily favored in. In fact, the only series I can think of where one almost did, was the Hawks taking the Celtics to 7 in '08. But in fairness, it was the big three's first playoff series together. The Spurs have no such excuse, yet here they are again, hanging on for dear life against a mediocre team, proving all those who constantly insinuate that they're vulnerable, soft and just not that good, right.
Lakers did against the Rockets in '09, which went 7 games.
But yeah, this series is anything but fun.
Would suck if blowing Game 4 costs the Spurs the series.
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dbreiden83080
If some of the Spurs role players step up in game 5 and Kawhi gets his act together they won't need Duncan to be so crucial down the stretch. And I have faith that Timmy will suck it up and play well late in game 5 if he has too. He is a champion for a reason.
That would be nice, but the role players haven't stepped up that much on the offensive end so far. If there is no small ball, then I think the Spurs can get much more easier shots, and if they start to make some easier shots, then they'll gain confidence in their outside shots. Also, Pop really needs to stop panicking. If young players see their coach panic, they're going to panic.
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Mark Travis @Mark_Travis
@danmccarneysaen Since 1985-86, the only other time they shot this bad was in a 1997 blowout loss to the SuperSonics. 34/21/50 in that game.
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DPG21920
Partially agree. Agree the Spurs have been playing pretty poorly for a while now, but how can you not care if they advance? To me, you still have to find joy in watching this team play. I know it's not easy, it's only recently Spurs fans have been used to really easy playoffs then quick burn outs.
Even if they weren't playing pretty, I've damn enjoyed watching Spurs in the early-mid 2000's. It' wasn't a flashy basketball but it was a very cohesive team, with a great identity and well driven by Pop.
Right now, I'm taking little pleasure watching them play as a team. Spurs are just playing a very low quality basketball and are surviving against mediocre teams because they have some high level players. As a basketball fan, it's not what I like to see.
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We got the split, that's all that matters. They aren't winning in San Antonio again. Period.
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Amuseddaysleeper
Lakers did against the Rockets in '09, which went 7 games.
But yeah, this series is anything but fun.
Would suck if blowing Game 4 costs the Spurs the series.
Yeah, somehow that slipped my mind. Anyway, in both instances, they still won those series and not only that, but they went on to win the championship. They didn't use it as an excuse to flame out in the following round, like the Spurs will inevitably do, if they're able to get that far.
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Darius Bieber
Glass is completely empty. If Curry and Thompson are playing at their normal level on Tuesday, it's game over.
Klay Thompson's "normal level" is a 13 PER player that scores inefficiently when he doesn't have open 3s:lol..
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K-State Spur
Curry still shot above his season % today.
And Thompson's game 2 was more an abberration than 3 & 4. EVERY shot (save 1 or 2) he took was contested. He's not going to make a high percentage of those in most games.
If you're referring to game 2, you're completely wrong, tbh..
11 of Thompson's 13 makes in game 2 were poorly contested/wide open..
He doesn't score efficiently if he isn't open..the Spurs have shut him down since Leonard began covering him..
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Whoever wins game 5, will take the series imo...will be interesting to see who plays now, with the added pressure. I just hope the warriors don't shoot like they did in games 1 & 2.. or they will be in trouble. Part of me wants to think we have klay and steph somewhat figured out, but they're still both very capable, even with a hand in the face..oh well, life goes on.
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baseline bum
:cry glass is shattered :cry
Completely empty..with a quarter sized hole in the bottom of it..
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The one troubling aspect to me is Leonard lack of offense. I was hoping these playoffs would be a coming out party for Loanard, as far as Leonard being a reliable option on the offensive end.
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This series has been a great lesson for Spurs fans in a lot of ways. Spur fan claiming sweep, over confident, making fun of the warriors for melting down at end of games...Maybe this will challenge people to stop, pause and objectively look at things before just jumping to harsh conclusions.
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HarlemHeat37
If you're referring to game 2, you're completely wrong, tbh..
11 of Thompson's 13 makes in game 2 were poorly contested/wide open..
He doesn't score efficiently if he isn't open..the Spurs have shut him down since Leonard began covering him..
You think Spurs in 6?
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Bruno
Even if they weren't playing pretty, I've damn enjoyed watching Spurs in the early-mid 2000's. It' wasn't a flashy basketball but it was a very cohesive team, with a great identity and well driven by Pop.
Right now, I'm taking little pleasure watching them play as a team. Spurs are just playing a very low quality basketball and are surviving against mediocre teams because they have some high level players. As a basketball fan, it's not what I like to see.
so what changed? did the core become too old, not as reliable (especially Manu) or did Pop start getting loopy (hopefully not from the great wine), or a combination of the two?
I'm thinking since the core is older, he relies too much on scrubs and it bites us in the ass everytime.
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The problem with classyball and the way this roster is structured is that if everything is all even, the Warriors are better than us. Faster, better shooters, better rebounders, better defenders.
The only thing we have on them is chemistry and execution. I see it half full because I'm 100% sure it will outlast them on that alone. But if we have to play monkeyball and heroball we're toast.
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^^^We can't repeatedly go down to Duncan any more on every possession.
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also, after reading through the various posts, i actually feel half full about this series. I think we have what it takes to stifle them, and I think at home our role players will shoot much better.
but if we win this, i make no predictions for next series. that will show if our TOSBs still have more to prove or if we've hit our ceiling.
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Spurs need to get on that glass. I am actually happy to see the Spurs still have a shot while their free throw, mid-range jumpers, 3pt shooting and rebounding are miserable. If the Spurs shore up one of those it is series over GS.
