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Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
the people that said that were also totally owned by those of us who said this guy cant play small forward
its not all about percentages....u guys were a high scoring offense, raja bell shooting all those shots nash will create, he wont hit as often as Q just cuz his career percentages are better
Speaking of petty, how petty was it for Suns owner, Robert Sarver, mocking an injured Tim Duncan, by flapping his arms like the San Diego chicken, during the last Spurs/Suns regular season game in America West arena? Sure that was real mature on the part of an asshole owner.
If you're gonna dish it out, you'd better be ready to take it.
He won't hit as often because he won't shoot as often. Which is good when you have players like Johnson and Stoudemire who make half of their shots instead of bricking long three pointers and giving the opponent fast break opportunities.Quote:
he wont hit as often as Q just cuz his career percentages are better
Spurs have proven they can run and score with the best of them and play hard nosed defense at the other end. Suns have yet to prove the latter. Adding 2 defensive players (one who is a bench player BTW) will not do that much for them. I'll give you that the Suns have improved somewhat with the addition of Bell and Thomas, but who's to say that the Spurs aren't going to improve even more next year also? Parker still has room to grow as does Manu, and Duncan should be healthier and playing on 2 strong ankles, we may get Scola....a lot can happen.
If climbing Mountains were so easy....wouldn't everyone be doing it? :)
u kno, when he did that, i was like man i feel sorry for the suns, if they run
into the spurs they are gonna get massacred, which they did, but the spurs
were too classy to rub that in when the series ended
4-1... yes, but the games were all close until the final minutes. a few defensive rebounds (where Thomas helps) or a few more misses (Bell) and the games are toss ups.
Yes, 4-1 Spurs. But the Suns didn't have, then had an injured Johnson and barely got any production from Marion/Richardson. Yet the Spurs couldn't put the Suns away until minute left in the fourth in most games.
Spurs won, but you can stop pretending it was a shithammering and that their improvements won't do anything to help. The games were close and the Spurs won out despite being held to a lower FG% in the series (48% to 49% for the Suns).
But hey, I guess since you had swept the Lakers in 99 kept them from improving and winning over the next three years, right? Or that since the Lakers swept you in 2001, that it kept you from improving and winning years later?!?!
I believe I was on this site criticizing the very actions :angelQuote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Sarvar was and still can be an idiot about things.
The guy was making a joke! Can't you people understand satire!?Quote:
Originally Posted by clubalien
As long as the suns coach keeps his same strategy to burn out his starters during the season, phx will once again fade at the end of 4th quarters in the playoffs. Nash will be one year older (32) and more susceptible to injury. It's no lock that Nash will be durable. Without a decent backup PG, the suns will not be able to run the fast paced offense. It will be interesting to see what type of defense the suns try to employQuote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
LOLOLLOL
phoenix got so owned oh man im gonna go watch my phoenix series tapes
later
"i think its all about them playing 5 guys 45 minutes"
--Horry
There's something I'll agree with. D'Antoni did a poor job of developing the youth on the Suns last year, eventually trading three of the players (Lampe, Zarko, Vroman) and another youngin' in Jacobson. He failed to do anything of significance with Barbosa or Hunter until pressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSpurs21
However, with Thomas replacing Hunter and Bell being added, hopefully experience will help should troubles arise. Johnson is a very good backup PG, able to slow things down or run the break. Hopefully Barbosa gets some significant' PT early this season.
But unlike last year, the Suns are a bit deeper this year. They still have some money to spend from their exceptions, so they could get even deeper.
Word on the street!????
The only street this damn reporter knows is the street where you pick up $20 nasty hookers. He's full of shit
Not to take anything away from the Suns great year...which no doubt they had and also I am not doubting that they have improved for next season...you're arguement that the games were pretty close is kinda crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
But the Suns didn't have, then had an injured Johnson.
But the Spurs had an injured Devin Brown? He was a huge factor to the Spurs success in the previous games against the Suns...
barely got any production from Marion/Richardson
Marion/Richardson barely got any production due to Bruce Bowen...who will still be there next season. For an all-star to average something like 7.8 ppg, after averaging something like 24 ppg in previous rounds is a considerable drop. That's all due to Spurs defense which will still be there next season.
4-1... yes, but the games were all close until the final minutes. a few defensive rebounds (where Thomas helps) or a few more misses (Bell) and the games are toss ups.
The simple fact is, Suns let the Spurs shoot something like 72% in the 4th quarter for 3 of those games. That is a crazy stat. I highly doubt Kurt Thomas and Raja Bell are going to help you out that much in those aspects.
You say put Raja Bell on Manu and JJ on Parker? That leaves Bruce Bowen, Brent Barry, and Robert Horry open from 3 pt land, who's going to be the defensive stoppers then for you?
The reason why the Spurs beat the Suns 4-1 is because Spurs can run one end of the floor and play TEAM DEFENSE at the other end. Suns have yet to grasp the latter idea. Having 2 somewhat average defensive players/rebounders on a team of 12....isn't going to help you that much against teams like the Spurs, Pistons, Pacers, and even the Heat.
Yeah, the Suns lost CBF, but they held fourth-quarter leads in several games. The games, not the series is what I'm arguing. They are now better equipped to hold on to the leads with the defense and rebounding. They have 82 games to figure things out as to how.
As for injuries, it's not like Duncan and Ginobili haven't had injury history or a style the lends itself to nagging injuries. For as much talk as their is with Nash ans his age/injury, Duncan and Ginobili are just as susceptable.
What's up with all the "ifs" and "buts"? There is a reason Marion/Richardson were MIA during that series. Just as much as there was a reason the Suns only one a single game.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
If "ifs" and "buts" were "candy" and "nuts", the Suns and everybody else would have a Merry Christmas and a share of championship glory. Guess what? It didn't happen!
It doesn't matter how close the games were or whether they were of blowout fashion. The bottom line is the better team won, in convincing fashion - I might add.
As far as the historical commentary, the last time I checked Lakers have won three championships in a row, the Spurs have how three in seven seasons and the Suns have won how many? Ooops - "0". :elephant
OK, I'll give you a pass on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
phoenix is making some good moves, but i think they see their window for a championship as steve nash, not amare. thats why they're making bold moves now (even going so far to hold on to jj for max money) that will be close to 4 players making the max in a year or two.
their offense seems to fold without nash in control... their coach (who seems like a good guy) basically rides him and counts on him to make the calls. i thought they should have gone after solid backup help for him and not touch the rest of the team... get an antonio daniels to back up nash and Q... and then get a guy like j james to come in off the bench. that would have probably caused more problems for the spurs... and saved nash's legs.
Ever heard of jokes that are in "poor taste"? If he was so, amused about his actions, why did the jerk apologize? Don't sound like satire to me? Sounds more like classless, unsportsmanlike, childish behavior by an overzealous guy with a lot of cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA
this thread is turnin into bitching and pissing contest.
not even mark cuban acts like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
(and i hate cuban)
Allow me to get it back on track. The Suns are making some very interesting moves, for which I commend them. It remains to be seen how they'll manage their cap situation with JJ apparently getting a max deal from ATL.
We'll see how it all shake out.
The suns need a new coach its as simple as that. Sure its nice to have a coach
that lets them play the runnin game and letting people get big stats, but when ur
runnin game breaks down, and the players look to the bench for their coach,
they get nothing. best move they can make is get rid of the coach
wasn't bell the one who lost his cool vs ginobli? i don't really think the suns offseason moves improve them very much, it certainly takes a lot away from their high octane offense, which is what got them so far this year. if they tinker with what they had too much, they could end up a 4 or 5 seed easily.
coach himself admits he barely does anything
which is gonna make it sweeter for me to watch Spurs woop their ass again in the playoffs. :devilQuote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur