They do whether they admit it ir not IMHO. Manu clearly does enough to prevent any chance of Allen making the layup.. and nothing more. Therefore it is not "flagrant".Quote:
Originally Posted by 2centsworth
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They do whether they admit it ir not IMHO. Manu clearly does enough to prevent any chance of Allen making the layup.. and nothing more. Therefore it is not "flagrant".Quote:
Originally Posted by 2centsworth
Nah, Tony usually lands on his feet then slides down on his hip or back. Not upended.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Right, it is flagrant without the air quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Manu did the right thing. Turn the ball over in the backcourt. Yes that was the right thing to do.
Usually lol. So what about the times he doesn't? Ok... so call it 1-2 uncalled flagrants/game instead. To me it looks like he's always landing "awkwardly".Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Another thing.. Allen does manage to get one foot down before landing. Watch the replay.
And your opinion means so much to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
When he lands like Allen did? Doesn't really happen that often.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
No.Quote:
Ok... so call it 1-2 uncalled flagrants/game instead.
And your opinion means so much to me.Quote:
To me it looks like he's always landing "awkwardly".
I did. Doesn't matter.Quote:
Another thing.. Allen does manage to get one foot down before landing. Watch the replay.
Go fuck a porcupine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ErnestLynch
morning fellas.... feels good to be up 2-0 :hat
Dude ...Parker lands like that almost every other drive to the basket where he gets fouled. Try watching a spurs game sometime. Might be enlightening for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Sorry, you can't try to play that card. You spouted off way too often after not watching games.Quote:
Try watching a spurs game sometime. Might be enlightening for you.
As much as it pains me to do so . . . I agree. Perfectly stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Okay fine. You can believe whatever you wish. If you want to believe Parker has never landed on his forearm or hip that's your prerogative. If you want to pretend Allen didn't get a foot down to break his fall again... that's your prerogative. If it makes you feel all giddy inside to imagine Allen paralyzed and in a wheelchair behind the grizzly bench for the rest of the series Go for it I won't stop you. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Straw man.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
I acknowledged he got a foot down -- it simply didn't matter.Quote:
If you want to pretend Allen didn't get a foot down to break his fall again... that's your prerogative.
Wut?Quote:
If it makes you feel all giddy inside to imagine Allen paralyzed and in a wheelchair behind the grizzly bench for the rest of the series Go for it I won't stop you. :lol
CD being a dick he is
Nothing new
Well, if you want to make it about me, I guess you can try.
I don't think the flagrant gets rescinded. Could be wrong.
It was your dumbassed assertion that upended players provide the most bearing on whether a flagrant is called. And the ignoring the fact that a simple reference to the point guard who plays for the team you supposedly watch refutes this idiotic statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
More than perceived intent, definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
Parker rarely falls that way. You're exaggerating.Quote:
And the ignoring the fact that a simple reference to the point guard who plays for the team you supposedly watch refutes this idiotic statement.
The foul that was called last night is almost always considered flagrant 1. That's all. No need to lose your shit about it.
I disagree. I've seen far worse fouls not get tagged flagrant. Especially in the 4th quarter of the WCF. Flagrant would have been Manu yanking his arm down forcefully instead or slapping /hitting his arm. He clearly just grabs hold of Allen's wrist and prevents him from going up for the layup. It was not a flagrant, nor even close to a flagrant. Just a good clean playoff foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Except it was flagrant. Excessive contact is all that's required and the grab you so helpfully described fit the bill. Of course there is judgment involved, but there have clearly been enough similar flagrant calls in the history of that penalty to conclude this one could easily be called flagrant.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
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Originally Posted by polandprzem
And being called out as usual. :lol
By the usual people who have to rely on ad hominems. :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
I don't really care about the foul, that was on the refs and Allen's acting. It was that terrible turnover before that everyone should be mad about. Ginobili just being Ginobili, turning over the ball and throwing away possessions during crunch time.
Sorry that doesn't fit "the bill". I guess that is where we differ. I'd like to know what you think Manu could have done to prevent the layup and still avoid being "in excess" of the allowed amount of contact. Because I sure can't think of anything less he could have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
If Manu hadn't been called for a flagrant and Allen misses his free throws, people here would be celebrating the play. Manu did what all players are taught to do in situations like that...don't give up an easy lay up...make them earn it from the FT line.