Will Manu ever learn?

MiG thinks Manu's to blame for 2006 when Rasho and Nazr were benched for the entire fucking series and he'd just hit a three to put the Spurs ahead. Reference to "will he ever learn" about two fouls that are seven years apart.

In the good old NBA days that's not a flagrant, now maybe it is. Either way I hated that call and I would have done the same, Allen is not a good free throw shooter getting him to miss one of two would have been huge. Fuck Stern and his pussified league, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

I was more angry with Manu's sloppiness on the other end that led to that fast break.

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Matt Bonner acting like he was going to set a pick and then shying away from it like a little girl who sees a bug tbh.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

It doesn't help you win. People can say it was a soft flagrant - and it was - but its called a flagrant a decent amount of the time. Maybe not half of the time - because it was soft - but Manu pulls him down and doesn't make a play on the ball. And even if its not, he likely makes 2 free throws and you're in the same position anyway. If you don't foul, he scores the layup and then you get the ball back with under 30 seconds to go. They likely have to foul and then you just need to hit your free throws. It doesn't help you win and it actually puts you in a position for OT. Its not really difficult.

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:lol He fouled in the arm. That's what you're supposed to do. Foul hard, clean and make sure it's not an and1.

You don't give up two points, you make him earn them from the line.

Allen acted and sold some shit that will earn him a fine. Manu has nothing to do with that.

and lol @ the kneejerk bullshit when this game was entirely on Pop for rolling with -17 redhead for way too long.

It was a bad call. Refs wanted a close game and got whay they wanted.

I liked the foul there. Didn't know that type of foul is considered flagrant. Next time we know and should let the guy go, but I've never seen a foul like that called flagrant. Maybe I just don't know the rules.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Yeah I have a hard time being too mad at Manu for that. That's a foul you should be able to make in this league. I was more angry with Manu's sloppiness on the other end that led to that fast break.

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He got the ball with two or three fucking seconds in the shot clock.

Manu makes a foul that directly leads to the Spurs going in OT. If Manu doesn't foul - no OT. Manu apologists call it the right play.

:tu

The preceding turnover was lazy and stupid; however the foul was smart in theory but the refs changed the game when they made the worst call of the playoffs thus far.

Right play. (Turning the fucking ball over is another issue.)

Terrible call. Couldn't they see what a stupid-ass acting job Allen was throwing in? That was embarrassing.

It was the right play, he grabbed and arm, that´s never a flagrant foul. And the acting shouldnt be important here because normal refs would review the call and make it a simple foul call.
The play was right because he made a good foul in a moment when it was reviewable.
The refs still wanted to give the ball to Memphis, nothing to do with that.

Manu has a history of mind boggling decisions late in games but here, he did the right play since it was NOT a flagrant foul (plus T. Allen is a bad FT shooter)

Don't blame Manu for the collapse, he was fine. This OT is on Pop small ball lineup in the 4th and alsoon TP unability to shoot the ball in the 4th

if this thread is about the foul, this is a real stupid thread

it was a good foul. Tony Allen sold the flagrant to the fucking refs.

one of the dumbest threads in a log time if that's the reason IMO

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Originally Posted by urunobili

Thread of the year candidate tbh :tu

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Originally Posted by hater

if this thread is about the foul, this is a real stupid thread

it was a good foul. Tony Allen sold the flagrant to the fucking refs.

one of the dumbest threads in a log time if that's the reason IMO

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You know Manu's foul was legit when Hater is defending him tbh. Stupid thread.

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Originally Posted by hater

if this thread is about the foul, this is a real stupid thread

it was a good foul. Tony Allen sold the flagrant to the fucking refs.

one of the dumbest threads in a log time if that's the reason IMO

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You know Manu's foul was legit when Hater is defending him tbh. Stupid thread.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

The preceding turnover was lazy and stupid; however the foul was smart in theory but the refs changed the game when they made the worst call of the playoffs thus far.

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I am not sure you remember the play Ginobilir eceived the ball from bonner who had the 3, with 3.3 seconds in the shot clock, tried to put the shot up but he was being double teamed. Still the correct call should have been a 24 seconds violation.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Manu makes a foul that directly leads to the Spurs going in OT. If Manu doesn't foul - no OT. Manu apologists call it the right play.

:tu

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:lmao what a stupid way of thinking. it was a 4pt lead, Manu did not want to give the easy basket which is the 100% right call

there was nothing about the foul that was flagrant. :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

I'm a Manu fan, but damn... you're up four. Let him get the layup, bring the ball back up the court up two points, and make them foul.

It was a dumb play.

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Agreed 1000%

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Manu makes a foul that directly leads to the Spurs going in OT. If Manu doesn't foul - no OT. Manu apologists call it the right play.

:tu

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What? Did you know that type of foul is flagrant? If not, it's between layup or pts at the FT line with 40 or so seconds left up by 4.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

He got the ball with two or three fucking seconds in the shot clock.

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So dribbling backwards into a crowd instead of going right and putting up a shot probably wasn't the right play.

Unfortunately this is what you get with Manu, you take the good with the bad. He plays by instinct all the time.

- Fouling Tony Allen would have been a good play under normal circumstances, but not when there's 20-odd seconds to go with a 4-point lead
- Trying to block Dirk's layup in 2006 would have been a good play under normal circumstances, but not when you're at the end of regulation, up 3

A 2pt game with 40 or so seconds left or 4pt with TA at the ft line. I'll take the latter.

I'm too happy with the win to dwell on this, tbh... it was the right decision IMO, and if he doesn't foul Pop unleashes on his ass... that's all there should be to it...

The choke in this game had very little to do with one play anyways...we stopped moving the ball and playing smart... hopefully some rest will help...

Why is it called a charity stripe if you have to earn your points from there?