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Originally Posted by DAF86
Hey guys, remember when Lance Stephenson tried to climb the ladder on Tyson Chandler in game 5 of Knicks/Pacers and Tyson shoved him out of the air in a total non basketball move and the refs didn't call a flagrant and Reggie Miller was like "good rim protection dawg"?
Tim Duncan on the flagrant foul - "Yeah, it's such a weird play. I know it's a tough play for the officials. I think Tony just tried to sell it, more than anything...and it's, uh, but I guess the ruling is, if he's in a vulnerable position and they feel that it's excessive, then it's a flagrant. But, Manu did the right thing and tried to prevent the layup and you just try to let the referees call what they have to call."
Never said it was Manu's fault alone. A lot of people fucked up. Manu's idiocy is one of the few where an active decision was made to do something really stupid, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Manu haters knows best. Timmy is just covering Manu...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
I wonder what Pop's cooking for Manu for breakfast tomorrow?
Yeah I can't be mad at Manu for that foul. That was just a hard playoff foul that the dumbass referees for some reason saw it as a flagrant. Should he have given up the layup? Maybe. But Tony Allen isnt exactly a great FT shooter so it was the right play to try and make him earn the points at the line..
Lets review. Duncan thinks it was a good play. Simmons and Magic disagree.
Manu's a smart guy and has played basketball a long time. Being up four and realizing that the only thing you can't afford is a flagrant foul shouldn't take too long to mentally calculate, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Tim agrees it was the right play...
When is Manny going to learn that you can't fucking curse in the thread title?
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Originally Posted by timvp
1) He didn't pull him down...he grab him in the arm, then let go.
2) Allen falls down with both hands normally.
3) Once on the floor he grabs his head, which at no point hit the floor.
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Exactly. Bonner ball is what made overtime possible, period.
So its come down to the best power forward ever's opinion. Vs. A guy who thought it was a good idea to not use condoms :lol
BTW, props to Allen for pulling a vintage Manu... I'm just glad it didn't work out for them in the end.
It was a stupid play. But at least we won this time.
Actually now that I know where you stand, I change my stance, Manu was very dumb to commit that foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
It was a stupid fukin foul, you don't grap a guy by one arm while he's going up in the air. Of course Allen was going to sell it, and Manu of all people should know that.
Yeah DAF, I'm shocked Tim didn't throw Manu under the bus and call it a dumb play. Shocked.
that's why he didn't smack him upside the head but instead grabbed his arm, which I've seen a million times without a flagrant being called. Shit I've seen people lose teeth an no flagrant called. The league may be more pussified than I'm aware.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Manu's a HoF flopper, but I can't imagine him ever faking a head injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
You're really going to look at that and say Manu didn't pull him down? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Manu got outflopped, I really hope this is the thing that gets him back in the game.
Letting go was the mistake. Manu has to wrap him up there -- or not foul him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
He fell head first. That's a flagrant 100 out of 100 times in the regular season, tbh.Quote:
2) Allen falls down with both hands normally.
True, that was bad acting but that only hurt his case. You pull someone out of the air and make them land head-before-body and you're getting a flagrant.Quote:
3) Once on the floor he grabs his head, which at no point hit the floor.
BTW you're all welcome for me starting a thread that pulled in more old school folks than greys.
Shoog I thought about it before I hit submit. But I was too fired up. Honestly thought the Spurs were going to be too gassed to win in OT. Turns out Memphis was even more tired.