if gasol or randolf go 15-15 it will be a very difficult win for the Spurs
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if gasol or randolf go 15-15 it will be a very difficult win for the Spurs
Haha agreed but I meant "opponent" (referring to okc, hence why I said last years team had A tougher opponent. It autocorrected to opponents for some reason)Quote:
Originally Posted by Legacy
Anyway, we all knew last year's team had to come down to earth eventually, although we surely didn't expect a Backdoor sweep lol
This team has a year of more experience, and aren't folding under the bright lights (...yet?)
Add the fact that the Grizzlies couldn't break 90 points in an OT game, and I'm pretty confident.
I seem to recall feeling very, very relieved that we held on to the Game 2 win over OKC last year, as we really struggled to hold the lead and OKC honestly looked like the better team. And so it proved, although I would've been shocked if you'd told me there would be a backdoor sweep.
I really don't see the Grizzlies as such strong competition, and no way can I see them winning four straight. So yes, I think that the 2013 Spurs have a much better chance of progressing to the finals, but mainly because their opponents are inferior.
Sadly, I don't give us much of a chance against the Heat and fully expect Miami to get the job done. Obviously, I'd be ecstatic to be proven wrong!
The emergence of Leonard is the biggest reason that I think this year's Spurs are better. Also, we're playing much better defense this year than last year.
Truth. Many in the media had declared the 2012 version of the Spurs as one of the greatest teams ever. Their level of basketball smarts/chemistry was unmatched.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric365
Yeah, I agree with most that we have a better chance of winning the conference finals, but a worse chance of winning the Finals. Ah well...
Russell Westbrook James Harden and Kevin Durant...I feel much better about getting past the Grizzlies
I felt better about the 2012 Spurs because they were on a 20-game winning streak. They were the best team in the NBA ... until Game 3 of the WCF. I still look back on that and wonder WTF happened? Unbelievable. And that Game 6 officiating. I try never to bitch about officials, but that was just too much.
But I do feel better about the level of the opponent this year. Harden killed the Spurs in 2012. I see no perimeter player even half as good as him on the Griz roster.
2012 spurs looked better. were winning with more style points. and had the giant winstreak leading right up to this point. 2013 spurs are much, much better defensively and that makes us a better team
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Originally Posted by eric365
I was worried what would happen to the Spurs once they lost a game, and if it would shatter their confidence. I don't worry about this team that way. They're likely not going to sweep Memphis and they damn sure all know they aren't going to sweep Miami.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
Yeah at 20 games in a row 2012 is tempting, but 2013 for the DEFENSE. Last year, if they stopped our O we were in trouble, but now we have the D to win "ugly" ball.
Playing defense is more tiring than not playing defenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Darius McCrary
I picked 2012 because we looked unstoppable.. its easy to look back now and act like you saw 4 losses in a row coming... We swept the first two rounds AND had won the first 2 of round 3. We were even down a ton on the road and came back against the clippers. I do agree with BillMc though that our defense is more reliable this year. I just couldn't see us cooling down like we did at the time. I was very confident last year. I guess I forgot that defense wins championships...
The 2013 team. Unlike 2012, a true measure of a team is how you play a game while trailing, and how you respond after a loss. We never recovered from a loss in 2012, and we were able to commit one of the biggest comebacks in history in 2013. A good vintage spurs team is one that can still win while playing poorly, thats this 2013 team.
Why is everyone so afraid of Miami? We are the only team in the West that has truly challenged them. I say we have a chance to beat them when they get to the Finals.
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Originally Posted by MinuteByMinuteSports
I think that the Spurs may have a 40% chance of beating the Heat in the Finals while every other Western team had at best a 30% chance, but a 40% chance still doesn't give all that much cause for confidence.
This year. Better defense. Worse opponent. Kawhi. Danny.
Wade looks to be about 80%. We can limit him pretty drastically, and with Leonard on LeBron.... oh who am I kidding, LeBron is gonna go off regardless of who guards him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursRock20
Still, if we can essentially limit Miami to what LeBron can do (similar to the 2007 Finals actually) I think we stand a chance.
I feel better about every single player in the roster right now then I did in 2012 tbqh.... Who honestly isn't playing better? Maybe Neal. Our defense is also miles miles miles better than it was the previous year, we all know what happens when you rely on outscoring opponents.
I won't lie and say I thought we were gonna lose WCF after being up 2-0 last year (especially not swept), but I feel this spurs team is substantially more sturdy than '12.
Manu and Tony, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ffadicted
But this year's team is more Duncan-centric, which I like.
2012's edition looked prettier, blazing through a lockout shortened season and surgically disassembling just about every opponent they faced for the better part of two months, then running roughshod on the Jazz and Clippers, all while mounting head scratching statistics and looking just about unstoppable.
2013 is different. 2013's Spurs have seen more adversity, whether by injuries or tough losses or unexplained slumps. Losing Parker to that ankle sprain, cutting Jackson at the end of the season, getting hit with the controversy in Miami, etc. This Spurs team had to survive a conference race along the lines of World War II, and it took just about everything they had to secure the No. 2 seed. Yet, they're here again, up 2-0 in the WCF, despite everything that stood in their way before this. Even if they don't win this series, it's hard not to look at yet another throwback season from Duncan, the return of stubborn defense, and the staying power of Green and Leonard this postseason.
If you ask me, if ANY Spurs team since 2007's title group feels like a team that could win it all, it's 2013. Not because they're that much better than 2012, but because they're earning this run. They're playing brutal defense when they need to and they're locking down shooters that could kill them. They're getting battered and beaten and at times they're setting themselves up for a letdown. However, despite all of the reasons we as fans could point to as evidence that they're incapable of winning the title, none of them have kept them from being exactly where they were a year ago, and perhaps in even better shape to continue.
The only gripe I would have if the Spurs won the championship this year would be those grey jerseys.
2012's team would have won with the much better white jerseys!
Not with TOSB Manu. He seems to have aged ten years from last season to this season(and he wasn't even that great last year).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
2012 Team would have lost to Golden State in 6. They struggled on team defense big time, they were usually attempting to play 1 on 1 defense. 2013 plays more team defense. And how about Green/Leonard stepping up? (First 2 Games)
2012 Green- 5.0ppg, .250%.
2013 Green- 13.5ppg, .580%.
2012 Leonard- 12.5ppg, .476%
2013 Leonard- 15.0ppg, .632%