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Nando
Pts 10.8 Fg% .436
Cory Joseph 11.7 fg%.464
Cory brings energy and does not disrupt the flow of the offense..
Also Nando fouls more, and turns over the ball more..
Although Nando has better assist average and rebound average
Nando played 72 games Joseph 28.
So obviously nando had way more opportunities this season to accomodate to the team and have better stats than Joseph, which he does not.Joseph scores more, turns over the ball less..
Both shot amazingly well in May, and the shooting of both fell off a cliff in April. Aside from Joseph's advantage at guarding traditional-sized point guards, it could have been a coin toss that determined who got the job.
Both are scrubs. The Spurs can get rid of any of them.
He's been doing it all season. You can go to his thread in the Think Tank for the interviews Bruno has translated if you want to read more.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT
I think the fact that CoJo performed well when given the chance during the playoffs and Pop has just continued to give him the PT. It's the playoffs and TP is going to play a whole lot more minutes than RS, so there's not a lot of minutes left over.
In fact De colo ha splayed more games with the spurs in one season than Joseph in two...
Bad timing on his part.
Pop & RC should get on the phone and persuade Danny Ferry to take him in exchange for one ATLs 2 first-round picks (#17 or #18) in this upcoming June draft.
Joseph's 3 pt shooting at the NBA level is far too small a sample size to judge. His job isn't to shoot 3s as the backup point, it's to play defense and take care of the ball while making the occasional play. He's better at defense and taking care of the ball than De Colo, and whoever said he fouls less I believe is correct as well.
To me, it's obvious why Joseph got the nod over De Colo. Joseph embraced his coaching and not only accepted his assignment to Austin, but even asked for it once. De Colo bristled at even spending a day down there, and he can't keep his mouth shut about his role on the team. He's a rookie on a team with championship aspirations; how may minutes does he really expect to get? It feels like a Jack situation to me, in a way. He's so used to being the guy that he can't take being a role-player. If he had come into the league with the right attitude, he'd probably have Neal's spot right now.
CoJo is a MUCH better defender. His ability to come in and hound the ball for 94 feet is a skill that really nobody else on the team has at this point. When he's knocking down open shots - which he has through these playoffs thus far - it' s a no-brainer that he's of more value to second unit as currently constructed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen
Nando is better creator/passer, but not needed from PG on second unit at this time because Manu is running that show anyways.
De Colo is still the higher ceiling prospect of the 2, but not the more valuable for 2013 team.
It's not the same. I didn't mean it's not fair to Cory to compare, it's not fair to either one. If you wanna argue that De Colo is a hetter shooter go ahead, you could point to the fact that he has better NBA percentages and all that. But he has a larger sample size and played more this year than Joseph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen
For Joseph you could point to his d league work, and yes i am very well aware that d league defenders aren't anywhere close to the defenders that he faces in the NBA, but the 3 pt line is the same distance and a hand in the face is a hand in the face.
In all reality though they're both mediocre. Joseph is just way younger and has more potential.
Bad form by Nando, but I can understand his frustration if no one is telling him why.
I think the Spurs would do that, but I don't think Atlanta would. Maybe if the Spurs moved their own first and a conditional pick next year too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
You think no coach on the Spurs has said he needs to be the better defender and take care of the ball better to play? I'd be shocked if they haven't communicated that to him all season. He's just not going to tell his French press buddies that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
How long before Pop asks him if he thinks he's better than other players? lol
Possible. If he's just flat out lying I'd consider trading him, but one would figure minutes at the 2 will be opening up next season. OTOH one could just sign Hanga for a more traditional 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisky Dog
You seem to have something against CJ. Why do you hate one of the hardest workers on the team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen
Are you trying to support your argument?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen
Haha you either think Joseph is worst than Vaughn or you think Nando will ever be better than UDrih or at leat as good.