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If they put one of the bigger defenders on TP to slow down the P&R. Just give Kawhi the ball on top of the key & let TP run off the ball with back door screens etc. If that fails, Manu must be out on the floor at the same time with TP. This will be tricky bc we want to watch Manu's playing time & give TP rest. If Blair is on the floor, Manu def better be out there with him. Him & Manu do a good job of playing that 2 man basketball.
Good breakdown, but the Heat had total command of game 3. Also seems like the heat are getting good practice/experience playing against our own playbook...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Pacers scored 56 points on the Heat in the first half, they only had control because the Heat destroyed the Pacers defence for 70 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurman123
Spurs will have no problem scoring on this Heat team IMO, the real battle will be stopping them the other end.
Defense vs. P&R Ball Handler %Time Num PPP Rank FGM FGA FG% 3FGM 3FGA 3FG% %SF And 1 %TO %Score Miami 9.1% 927 0.7 1 232 568 40.8% 40 119 33.6% 5.4% 24 30.6% 32.8% Memphis 13.9% 1416 0.8 17 435 1046 41.6% 51 172 29.7% 6.1% 23 17.6% 38.7%
Not really. Trapping can work well when you have Hill and George handling the ball. They're not going to be able to stop Parker, Duncan and Splitter at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurman123
The game TP played this year against Heat scrubs he was AWFUL dealing with the trap. I remember screaming at the screen for him to stop retreating to half court and picking up the ball. Hope it was an aberration and something he can be game planned to deal with. Because he was terrible that game.
Where did you get those stats from?Quote:
Originally Posted by pikkiwoki
Tony wasn't in SuperParker mode yet. Now, especially after having some experience with it himself and having seen it exploited, he should be able to have success. The Spurs beat Memphis by making the extra pass from the roller to the other big. So the Heat would have to trap Parker, help on Splitter AND recover to Duncan on the same play while still guarding the three-point line. That's not an easy task, especially when the Spurs run as many as five PnRs on the same possession.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitman4evah
Also, it's much harder to trap a PnR when the offense is in constant motion. Lebron and Bosh would have to get to Parker to trap him after they both got screened at least once. The Spurs often run a PnR after the Loop, which means Parker's man will not be in a good position to trap him. The Heat will run Ice on Parker with the big pushing him away from the screen, but that leaves Duncan open at the top of the key for a jumper with only a small to close out on him. Hibbert isn't really a big threat away from the basket. If Tim is hitting from mid-range, the Heat will probably stop trying to trap Parker relatively quickly. If the other big helps on Duncan, then he can hit Splitter or a cutter for a layup.
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Originally Posted by Chinook
And even when they handle the basic pick and roll really well, our multiple-screen plays are trickier than most of what I've seen Indiana run, and they depend on Tony's quickness and ability to change direction for their effectiveness, something the Pacers don't have in their toolbox. And if the Heat start to try to anticipate the plays, we have those great plays where we change direction on the picks that keep them from overpursuing.
With Parker playing the way he is, this is easily the best offense that Miami has had to face in the playoffs. And although I think Miami is a really well-coached team, I still think Pop can out-adjust Spo, and adjustments are going to be one of the big keys to this series -- even more than most.
Containing Miami's offense, though, is going to be even harder than scoring on them, I think.
I think this is the difference between the regular season and playoffs though. The Heat play a very unique kind of defence on the pick and roll and all teams struggle with it as shown by the stats. However, give a team a week to prepare and a full 7 game series, you can see how teams as relatively poor offensively as the Pacers can adjust to it and exploit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitman4evah
As I've said, I'm not worried at all by Miamis defence. I'm just not sure if we can defend them.
The Heat don't place ice at all on the pick and roll, the hedge very aggressively to trap the ball handler. Need to rewatch some bballbreakdowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
TBH, I think Miami is thinking the very same thing about the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie
My main worry about the heat D is their ability to get turnovers, especially those first two games when we'll be coming off 10 days rest and not ready for Miami's exceptional speed. I think we'll settle down and be OK, but if it takes us 2 games that might be tough to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie
Other than that, I think its a two way streak. We, too, will be BY FAR the best team the Heat will meet in this playoffs.
The difference is the Spurs are a legitimate defensive team that doesn't rely on their leading scorer to also be their top defender. Green and Leonard can seriously concentrate solely on defense and hitting threes, and the Spurs can find plenty of points. If James gets tired on defense, Miami will lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaDude
Punny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie
^ this, tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
You could look at it one of two ways: He hasn't been hitting that shot as consistently as he normally does or he's due for progression to the mean. I'm big on the latter, so suffice it to say, I'm encouraged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
I agree that the Spurs will be able to score enough to win this series and that it's more a matter of whether they can defend well enough. I realize the Heat are in a different league offensively from anyone they've played, but the Spurs do have the best defense in the playoffs and despite the underwhelming offenses of two of the three they've played, it probably is legitimate. They were third in the regular season despite constant minute managing and injuries. Now that neither is a question and their biggest defensive weakness has been replaced by another plus defender and is playing a smaller role in general, they probably are the best defensive team in the league.
Yeah, the sample size against the Heat is really small but I didn't like what I saw either against their pick and roll defense. On one hand, that was during their awful late season slump. On the other, it was without Wade/Lebron, who are quick perimeter defenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitman4evah