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It's funny that Jennings talked about role-players, since he would be one on the Spurs. World Peace is continuing to try to drub up interest from the Spurs. Depending on what contract and role he wants, there may be mutual interest there.
You don't understand Pop at all, do you? Not even a little. I think he's pretty much done with former Pacers SFs who went into the stands at The Palace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
I don't think Jack's history of "criminal" activity influenced Pop at all. Jack was a bad teammate for one of the first times in his career, and that's why Pop had to get rid of him. World Peace is actually a pretty solid teammate, too, and he doesn't really complain about his role or gets into fights with management. Therefore, if he understands he'd only be Kawhi's backup and signs a deal reflecting that, I don't think Pop would steer clear of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
For critiquing my suggestion in such a snarky way, you really showed a superficial understanding of Pop, Jack and World Peace in your post.
World Peace definitely seems like he wants to join the Spurs, tbh..
His brother is a Spurs fan..Peace always speaks glowingly of Duncan and Pop and the organization, as well..
I'm not sure if Pop would take him, but I'd love him as a bench guy on the Spurs, tbh..he's a horrible starter, but he would be solid as a bench 3/small ball 4..
Jennings is the quintessential anti-Spur like player. Inefficient, selfish PG with a lot of bluster. No way there is going to be any "mutual interest" with the Spurs.
Artest is Jack-like crazy plus a million some more. Also has lost a lot of value over the years by generally regressing (slowly but steadily) on defense and becoming a black hole on offense. Overpaid player, who might be amnestied, but is less of a Spurs fit and a liability this point.
MWP was a shitty player against opposing starters this year, tbh..
Stephen Jackson was one of the worst players in NBA history against bench players AND starters this year, tbh..
Peace isn't that old and he's still able to bully players inside..I think he could thrive with a change of scenery in a bench capacity..
If spurs were aiming for contention in 2014 artest would be a useful piece
If World Peace is willing to listen to coaching (and by all accounts, he is), then he should be a lot better offensively in the Spurs' system. In the SSOL, he's allowed to jack up bad shots, and even before then, players on the Lakers had to shoot the ball whenever they had it, as they knew Kobe wasn't going to give it back once he got it. Defensively, he's undergoing the same change Jack is/was. World Peace is no longer a player you can put on anyone, but he's still a good combo-forward who could guard Durant and James very well.
With small-ball lineups being the rage nowadays, it'd be nice to have another wing who could move to the four and defend his position, spread the floor (a little) and even get his own shot. I'd love to have him on the team to guard James or West in the Finals.
I would love to see if Pierce gets cut by the Celtics as there is a possibility of that. Artest is not so much an option as Pierce.
Of course Pierce as a bench guy would be outstanding, but he will probably receive starter offers from teams like Memphis and the Clipps, tbh..
Memphis could be capped out with their renewal of Tony Allen's deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Clips, yes. Los Angeles being hometown and Clips having pursued him earlier this season, most likely could happen.
I wouldn't totally mind Ron Artest, the player, as our backup SF.
I definitely would mind Ron Artest the crazed maniac as our backup SF, however.
The dude is legitimately batshit crazy.
MWP's comment actually seemed backhanded. He basically just said the Grizzlies were better than they showed and insinuated that the Spurs were lucky they didn't "try hard enough".
As for mutual interest in MWP. . .yeah maybe. . .3-4 years ago. Now? Nope. Slower, shitty BBall IQ, can't hit the three. Next to useless in Spurs' system, and is arguably a negative because he runs his mouth too much, jacks bad shots more than anyone on the current Spurs, and his salary would be better spent elsewhere (a real backup PG or replacement for Bonner)
It seemed more like he said that Memphis got beat so badly that they gave up after Game 1. I don't think that's an accurate take at all on his part, but I definitely don't see the praise as back-handed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidd K
As far as fit goes, the Spurs are going to have to get a backup three, and World Peace could be a VERY cheap option if the Spurs claim him off amnesty waivers. They may not have to pay him anything more than the min.
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Originally Posted by Darkwaters
He's crazy as a fucking loon, but the boy can flat ball. If he was in the right place, I think he could still dominate games. I feel sorry for him a lot of times, because I think he really does want to be a good guy. But in honor of your "batshit crazy" comment, I feel compelled to post my favorite MWP clip of all time. No matter how many times I watch it, it never gets old:
If MWP could keep a level head, I'd love to have him on the Spurs. We can get him cheap and he can still ball.
Lol, Jennings taggin #greatrolesplayers
Yeah, I guess I didn't say it straight out. I would be happy to see him in a Spurs uniform. He still scares me, come playoff time. But if there is a place where he could become a good citizen, it would be here. The Laker coaches were stupid for the way they used him, or didn't use him. It was all about Kobe, and Pau. And Kobe. And Bynum. And Kobe. And Dwig... Kobe. MWP was just sort of an extra in the movie. He brings a lot of things that the Spurs need.Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaDude
I'm usually pretty negative about head cases. I hated the very idea of J.R. Smith in Silver and Black. And I was a lot less happy than most to see Jack come back. But I still think MWP could be okay here.
Jennings can dream... :lol
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MWP will never be a Spur. Never, ever.
MWP with all the goods here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
Maybe I just don't know how the new "amnesty waivers" works, but waivers in every other sport is NOT cheap. In baseball for example, claiming a guy off of waivers means you have to be the full amount if the team who waived him says, "go ahead and take him". So in MWP's case, that's what, 7.25m a year? That isn't cheap at all. . .Batum was like 9 mil and he's basically Artest with shooting ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
As for the backhanded thing, the "exceptional" thing was the compliment part, but the first part imo imnsinuated that we shouldn't have swept them and only did because the Grizzlies were just happy to be there and didn't give us their best. That is definitely a backhanded compliment in my book.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baseline
The amnesty waivers are completely different than normal waivers. Teams big what they want (above a minimum) and the team with the highest big gets the player at that salary, while the amnestying team pays the balance. So if World Peace is owe $7.25 Million, and the Spurs win the bidding at $1.25 Million, they only have to play that much, while the Lakers would have to pay $6 Million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidd K
Oh I see, thanks for explaining it, I didn't know how it worked. If we can get him or 1.25, that'd be worth it. Anywhere near 7 though and it's not. 5m would really be pushing it imo. He's so inconsistent from 3, and that's where he's going to get most of his looks. MWP would not help our offense much at all imo. Then again, he can't be much worse than Stephen Jackson was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
From your lips to Pop's ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursmania
What...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Thanks but no thanks.
Ignore.
Honestly, I'd love to have MWP on the bench. Veterans who have won titles and are willing to play within their roles are great, and as long as he's surrounded by a full roster of non-crazy people, I think his willingness to mix it up is a net positive. On a team with a healthy culture, you're more likely to get crafty Horry hipcheck moments, and not scary batshit moments -- his teammates are holding him back keeping him from chasing into the stands instead of charging in behind him. :lol
If we had him right this second to provide a few minutes a game defending LeBron or Paul George, I'd be thrilled.
:toast to Brandon Jennings for saying "Spurs play beautiful basketball." Hell yes they do! They play the game the way it's meant to be played, as a team.
Why the fuck can't everyone else (I mean media and supposed fans of basketball who follow other teams) see this? :pctoss
I'd take Artest as a cheap bench player, but hearing his name during every Spurs game would drive me mad :lol
I like MWP, didn't know he had interest in Spurs, but you've always seen or sensed the admiration. He is whack but he absolutely knows bball. Good teammate. Would definitely make it interesting.
A well behaved MWP as an option on the bench is an insteresting thought... let's not forget, however, that the Spurs already have an "old veteran SF" on the roster in T-Mac... I'm sure he will play a role next season after having the opportunity to learn the playbook (and completing the mandatory Pop-led training camp requisite)...
I'd rather have Artest than T-Mac giving us 12-15 min/night at the backup SF spot. TMac will get murdered playing defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
Pop already said tat he wants KL playing around 40 mins a ame. That leaves only 8-10 minutes open. T-Mac-Neal-DeColo-any scrub is good for this.
What the Spurs really need to add is a player that can take some of the offensive load of the second unit off Ginobili.
Diaw figured to be that option as he can create for himself but he doesnīt seem to like to shoot.
I think a low post scorer who can play C at times is what we should target to reinfoce our bench.
CJ seems to have taken the back up PG duties uite well and DeColo Neal are good for fighting for the last spot on the rotation.
PS: The player we are looking for could be Baynes. I donīt really know what he can do as Pop rarelly letīs him play.
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Originally Posted by tesseractive
There's an interesting thought. The Spurs hired a full time translator to stay right next to Mengke Bateer, when he was here. Seems like I remember them doing the same for someone else. They could sign MWP, and then hire a full-time caretaker to sit next to him on the bench, and to be on the ready to pull him off the court if he starts going postal.
Yes to MWP.
I would take mwp for the finals....is there anyway rc can pull this off??
Oh...and as far as the bucks wanting to sign Ellis over Jennings...bj doesn't really want to be in Milwaukee(who would?), so the feeling is mutual. Question is, does Ellis want to be in Milwaukee?
I wasn't sure if the "they" was the grizzlies themselves or the Spurs. I am leaning towards him saying they underestimated the spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidd K
I guess that's one way of looking at it. I was assuming he spoke English properly, but that may not be the case. If he was, he was referring to the Grizzlies. The guy is pretty dumb though so you might be right in that he was actually referring to the Spurs with that pronoun before he even mentioned them. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
We need a dirty hard defender. A bowenesque type player to frustrate opponents and get under their skin.
Yeah I don't know. It would make a little more sense if that tweet was a response to something else talking about the spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidd K
MWP wonders what it would be like if he lost all his teeth: strange dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
MWP wonders what it would be like if you lost all your teeth: uh-oh.