:lol Warriors
:lol $11 million for a late first round pick
:lol good riddance
:lol good fit for the San Fran area
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:lol Warriors
:lol $11 million for a late first round pick
:lol good riddance
:lol good fit for the San Fran area
Anyone have a gif of Duncan pushing RJ off scorers table? Shit was classic!:lol
Although the good thing about this is since both RJ and Biedrins are taking up cap space, it means that GSW can't sign both Jarret and Landry if I'm not mistaken.
:lol RJ doing damage from the inside once again to another team
Wouldn't you if you were a washed-up, end-of-the-bench player who otherwise would have a hard time convincing anyone you're worth even the minimum?
There it goes Jack
Well yeah, $11 mil for cheering from the bench is any loser's dream come true but this is more about lol'ing at the Warriors than RJ. :lol Especially having $20 mil tied to two people who aren't doing shit and losing one of your two top role players (Jack or Landry) because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
Exactly, dude isn't going to get that payday anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
Considering the implications this could have on Golden States contract situation, the Stephen Jackson trade just continues to look better and better.
:lol
Can't believe RJ, someone who's not even in the regular rotation for the Warriors, is getting almost as much as what Bogut, Lee and Curry are getting paid. Ludicrous!Quote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
Honestly, it's a shame. The more trades we pull off like George Hill that end up with happy trade partners, the more likely we are to have more trades available. When you rob your trade partners blind, other front offices tend to be afraid of trading with you. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
RC Buford being bailed out by the Warriors :)
I just :lmao when I saw this thread title. First we knock them out of the playoffs, now this. Suck it Dubs!
I just don't understand why the Warriors ever agreed to take on Jefferson's contract. Can someone please explain it to me? I'm lost here.
The didn't want Stephen Jackson -- he was just cap ballast, and they were afraid he would be actively disruptive there. They thought RJ could play for them even if he wasn't the guy he used to be. They wanted the extra pick. Taking one extra year on the contract didn't seem like the end of the world based on all that. Oops.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheyCallMePro
It's not like we swindled them. They agreed to the trade as much as we did. They wouldn't have done it if they had foreseen Jefferson being absolutely freaking useless, but that's foresight for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
I hope they BOOOO him at the Oracle even damn time he checks in. Just like we did & will continue to do at the AT&T Center.:lmao
Good, now they have two expiring deals worth nearly 20M to trade. Not terrible.
The only reason why no one should have hated the Jack trade.
:lol RJ
:lol can't even use the amnesty on him
:lol free money
Sure. But if you were an average GM, wouldn't you have a rule like "Never trade with any team that I know is smarter than I am?" :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Love the move. Always have. Who would pass up 11 mil? Glad we dont have to pay it.
At least the Warriors can be glad Jefferson picked his option up quickly. Now they can look for a trade with his expiring contract from now rather than after the draft.
Good luck getting any team to his or Biedrin's contract. If it was like baseball and they are part of it, I'd consider Biedrins for Bane's role next year.
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Originally Posted by tesseractive
still defies logic, even with that seemingly common sense explanation. wow. the 2 missed FT's in the breakfast game and now this? CIA pop got an operative on the inside sabotaging an up and coming west contender.
Still not as bad as you all think. They needed to take Jackson to get Bogut (good trade) and SJax could have been a terrible fit in that locker room. He may have been a horrible influence on their locker room and cause much more damage to them long term than an extra year of Jefferson. They also got a decent piece in Ezeli out of it.
If teams think Lebron might opt out next summer, those expirings could become very valuable.
Spurs clearly won that trade, but only because we had a strong locker room/coach to contain Jackson. If we had a young team like the Warriors who could be influenced negatively by a player like Jackson, we could easily be the loser in that trade.
Amnesty?
No offense but biedrins is softer than tiago, in the paint...spurs need toughness, not softness.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Some Warriors fans were happy about this trade :lol
What makes it even better was that 2012 draft was horrible, I don't think there was a single quality NBA player drafted after 20.
Teams can't amnesty players they acquired in a trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2centsworth
Can someone explain to me why Manu and Tim were being so agressive to him? That didnt look too friendly...Quote:
Originally Posted by DOS CHAINZ
:lmao taking on RJ's abortion of contract so they can draft Festus Ezeli
Can't believe spurs resigned him to that ,Jesus 11 mil gl swallowing that deal gst
He's an expiring contract, right? That can be valuable for teams looking to clear future cap room.
It allowed us to restructure, get under the salary cap and sign Splitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by slick'81
Also, while Jefferson was overpaid and a major disappointment we got him for retiring players/spare parts. So it was a good gamble for the Spurs, just one that didn't work out.
Yup. :lol RJ is living the dream right now. That trade is looking so fucking brilliant right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
Given the limited window of our stars still being capable of championships, dumping the RJ contract was CRITICAL. We already won the S Jax trade just for that.
:lol T Park, DesignatedT, etc. being stoked about resigning RJ when everybody else wanted to slit their wrists tbh.
Tbh, I was pretty stoked when we resigned him too but not because of his play but because of how thin the Spurs' small forward lineup was. IIRC, that was the same offseason where Hairston left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
:lol Damn that's ALOT of money for a scrub who doesnt even play. :lol Thank you Warriors!
Lol at some people thinking keeping RJ was better than trading for Jack in the long runQuote:
Originally Posted by crc21209
Getting all worked up over missing out on Ezeli when the Spurs probably would have drafted a guard with their pick.
Hey its not the spurs fault they could not see what kind of player RJ was, it was not a blind trade. It was a dumb trade salary wise from the start,they were afraid to bring Jackson into their locker room and the spurs helped them.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
:lol spurs giving him that contract, :lol warriors for taking that contract but I'm not complaining and thank youuuu
Me too, I thought SA was fucked without a starting SF so I wanted them to resign RJ, he was better than nothing, or so I thought... If I remember correctly the only other SF options at that time were Rasual Butler and James Jones from the Heat, both free agents, they were of course done in the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Sucks for the Warriors. Smart move on his part.
The real question is, wth was our FO thinking giving him that egregious contract?
Cory Joseph was trying to use the traction pad and Dick was blocking him purposely... take another look at it, Dick even sticks the traction pad's plastic tear-off on Manu's arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamnik
Their ready for a damn title is my guess. "Just don't suck."Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamnik
RJ is looking like an evil genius for restructuring his contract with the Spurs a couple seasons ago now.
Not the least bit surprised he took the option. He won't get even half that anywhere else. I doubt RJ cares what people there think about it either. . .it's 11 million dollars.
RJ is definitely climbing the "all time most overpaid players" list though.
i didn't notice this one during the game. there's another instance duncan pushing rj, that one happened at midcourt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DOS CHAINZ
From a Warriors stand point, i still don't get it... I mean, when you take on such a big contract, you look at the player who is behind it. And back then, it was obvious for EVERYONE that RJ would remain this useless veteran whose contract annaly fucks any kind of salary cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
That's the better question.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
The Warriors were looking at two choices. Pay 20 million for Jack to go away or pay 30 million for RJ and a late first round draft pick (round numbers). I imagine they wish that they had just paid off Jack and been done with it. As to why the Spurs signed RJ to that deal, it was thoroughly discussed at that time and those threads should be easy to find. It was a move motivated by significant savings for the 2010-11 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by romain.star
As another poster mentioned, the Dubs trading for RJ was about getting rid of SJax. They were afraid he would be a negative influence on their promising young players. So in that regard, it was a good trade. Yes, he's killing their cap right now, but look at the strides their young players made this year... Which might not have happened had they kept SJax.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheyCallMePro
That is so true. Other teams must be mulling it over and over and over "how are the Spurs screwing me??" But other FOs are probably LOLing at GSW. All FOs screw up but it was practically a favor, and i bet it's a loooong time til the next GSW-SAS trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
Imagine what would a new coach do with a guy like Jackson in the locker room? If he almost messed up Spurs locker room, Jax would have messed up all of those youngsters..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
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Originally Posted by NASpurs
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Originally Posted by DOS CHAINZ
Pause it at 24 seconds... the mirth behind Duncan's stony facade almost breaks free but he reigns it in. Would like to play Poker with Timmy.
Dick Jeff needs that paper to pay for his "private" parties :lol
http://ftrsports.com/wp-content/uplo...8/nba-gays.jpg
Isn't Lukey boy's contract with Cleveland expiring this offseason?
Richard Jefferson - the gift that keeps on taking.
He was great during his 8 first years. Yet his rookie contract payed him only 15 millions over 5 years.
He is cashin what hes owed.
Tim is just not like this. It looks like he could laugh or stay disinterested as its a part of a game between them. I don't think either really disliked him. Jefferson playing half serious games with Ginobili and Duncan playing along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuixafun
P:lol:lolr them
A fifth big that's in street clothes more often than not... Aren't going to sign anyone better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolboy5623
They should make RJ run twice as many suicides in practice everyday because of this.
And if he refuses they can file suit claiming he's violating his contract and cut him.
Bingo.
Fuck RJ but I always thought Biedrins might be salvageable someplace.
Even our locker room wasn't able to contain him. We had to cut sling on him right before the playoffs and just flat out waive him. I can only imagine what he might have done to GS if he'd been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie
Exactly. A smart GM is looking for a way to convert RJ into something useful next year. And remember the Lebron Sweepstakes start again in 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
To make it worse he missed the biggest two FT's in the series! If he hits those we probably lose game one! We lost game two so they might have been up 2-0!!!!!! LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by capek
I'm wondering why Jefferson was bothering them and put that plastic on Manu's arm? Hmmm...he was probably over there just being annoying, so they treated him that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamnik
No surprise there. It will be his last contract in the NBA. Off to Europe or China afterwards.
Biedrins has proven he can ball in years gone by so maybe you're right. It's just a shame that horrendous free throw shooting has essentially ruined any chance of him becoming a good player.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfan
So glad we got rid of this POC!
:lol Ya, poor RJ. The fucking Manchurian Candidate of playoff basketball. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cagney
Sure RJ is only worth minimum right now. But without Bogut, they would not be able to get into second round. So the trade is not that bad for them, just not that good either.
Biedrins is an above average post defender, someone who can give you 2 -3 offensive rebounds in 10 minutes of playing time. He's a serviceable backup center.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfan
Don't people usually go to Jail for essentially 'stealing' the amount of money RJ has over the last few years. Grand Larceny?
Nobody forced the Spurs to restructure RJ's shitty contract, and nobody forced the Warriors to trade for that shitty contract. He took less money to help the team, and he's more than entitled to opt in. Grant Hill didn't give any of that money back when he was rehabbing his ankle every year. Sometimes a guy hits the lottery. The Warriors will tell you they're really glad that Thompson blew up into a guy with a future.
none is taking that tbh, after the amnesty was introduced, the amount of cancer contracts has heavily reduced, RJ is right now the worst contract in the league other than Bargnani and Stoudemire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
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Originally Posted by unforeseen
Maybe Mexico...lol
His deal is expiring, which automatically makes it a great asset. There are still teams that are looking to hemorrhage long-term salary. It's possible that Jefferson's and Biedrins' deals can get them a few good players their teams don't want on the books anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Do the warriors need an ageing pg with a new contract?