Would they win the series?
Indiana seems undisiplined, tons of unwarranted turnovers, careless passes. Guys seemingly not knowing what their team roles are.
Opinions, assesments, points of view?
Printable View
Would they win the series?
Indiana seems undisiplined, tons of unwarranted turnovers, careless passes. Guys seemingly not knowing what their team roles are.
Opinions, assesments, points of view?
Definitely would be more challenging, but they wouldn't be able to get over Stephenson's stupid ass plays and having a terrible bench.
they would not, based on lack of talent. no real ball handler, no real go to scorer, no 3pt shooting. great defense only gets you so far, 80 points in a game is almost always a loss.
Was thinking that when watching the game, there were no set plays (if there were any) that were executed correctly in the second half. Maybe we are just used to the Spurs being the Spurs and Pop being Pop.
Most of spurstalk thinks Pop is a terrible coach..
All things the Spurs have..Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeh8u
Interesting..
It would be more competitive, but it would still be a six game series in miami's favor.
And where is the pick and roll, multiple screens?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSpursFan
You can see why we got rid of Hill, he plays vert timidly, how many times did LaBron pwn him tonight?
Hibbert would be more of a beast, Leonard would never have been traded away and Stephenson would have been waived
Say what you want about Stephenson but who'd you rather have: Neal or him?Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiRMD1
No way Indy wins!!! Very timid on offense outside of Paul George and Hibbert. West did not show up tonight either!
Indy has no adequate floor spacing.....passes practically look like handoffs!
Miami can afford to pack on them.
Stephenson, but Pop wouldn't tolerate his childish attitude from last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
You may be right. He might have Stak5'd him but then again, he's put up with Blair and now DeCOMPLAINER's crap.
basic pacer offensive set: get the ball to whoever is closest the basket and take a shot. doesn't matter who it is. option is to take the shot yourself.
Their bench sucks, and they don't score efficiently.
Why is timvp resorting to alter ego dogs posting in giant red fonts to garner discussion on ST, tbh.
Considering the Pacers had a shot to go up 3 games to 1, I really think Pop would have led them to win the series due to their match-up advantage against the Heat. It wouldn't be easy, but I think it could be done.
The Pacers losing that game with a LeBron layup reminded me of the 0.4 shot we suffered in that while it wasn't an elimination game — once you lose like that, there's no real way to recover to win the series.
The Pacers will beat Miami in a playoff series at some point, though.
cHeat figured out Indiana pretty quickly, double West or Hibbert as soon as they get the ball in the post.
If the Pacers can keep their core together, stay healthy, and get Granger back, they should be able to give Miami a real run for their money in the East next year. An improved Hibbert and George, plus Granger, Hill, and West is a dangerous starting five.
Add a healthy D. Rose back on the Bulls, bring back the Heat, and the East will be a very strong conference.
Would Indiana be winning this series if they had the Spurs' bench?
both the pacers and the heat looked real tired tonight. worn out at the end. especially the pacers.
Pacers in 6 imo
Pop wouldn't have traded for George Hill, so there's that. If Indiana didn't take so many stupid shots they'd be much better, and Pop would make sure that would happen. Indiana is made to dump the ball down to Hibbert and use everyone else to punish double-teamers.
I don't know - as soon as Bosh hit a 3 ptr or two - pop would go small - and the size advantage Indiana has - would be gone....
Just sayin'
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by TrueSpursFan
I saw just a few set plays, other than that. Just pick and rolls
I think he's a great coach that let's his stubbornness and ego get in the way, way too much. He has MANY WTF moments, no doubt about that. Bonner being many of them, weird ass lineups at the worst times, benching hot players, going away from a defensive mindset for several years, etc. but, he is a great coach. Spurs would have at least 2 or 3 more Championships had it not been for things like that. But going for #5 is way better than going for none. Still doesn't excuse his bonehead decisions sometimes. I'm glad he got back to defense, but I still worry about his overuse of Bonner.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbreiden83080
You are a stupid person lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Nah, just tellin the truth. I said he's a great coach. What more do you want? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
You also said it's his fault that they don't have two-three more championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Who out there would have gotten them those extra championships?
Anybody who didn't think it was a good idea to bench the centers because Nazr hit a garbage-time three?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Something simple, hibbert is a huge body, who is rarely used to set up screens for Hill and George, especially before Hill gets double team. Once Hill is double teamed their offense is disrupted, George gets the ball and plays hero ball...
Indiana is coached terribly.
I've seen guys posting up in the same location, lanes wide open, some of the worst pick and rolls I've ever seen. Every time I see Hibbert set a pick, he is so far away from the ball handler, he has to reach out his arm just to be able to touch the defender...let alone pick him. This just ain't the pickers fault, the guard needs to use the pick better as well as the picker needing to come further out. These problems are all about coaching and practice, and should have been addressed in training camp.
Honestly, if Pop had these guys (and there's some real talent there,) I truly believe Indiana could beat Miami...because Miami is coached terribly too. Miami is relegated to relying on LeBron both on offensive and defensive ends. That's not coaching your team. The only saving grace for Miami's "team" play...is there are more veterans there that know the game better, and may not need to be coached as much.
If POP coached Indiana...I would pick Indiana over Miami. All they need, is a damn good coach.
BTW, that's why I don't care who we play in the Finals. The X factor is going to be the coaching. And neither Indiana or Miami have a coach worth a damn.
Here goes the moron that sucks Pops tit every chance he gets. I don't see anything wrong with what I said. It is what it is. He lost a couple for his decisions, plain and simple. Get over it. Not everybody is blinded like you. He went away from playing his centers and he lost bc of it. He's playing his center now and has re-focused the team on defense, and we are now in the Finals. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
:hat
Hill stands there and dribbles the ball until there's three seconds on the shot clock and puts up a jumper far too often. It's kind of sad that that hasn't been conditioned out of him. If Pop did his job the way we expect, George should flinch every time he does that.
I've been amazed during the playoffs at how many teams don't seem to have a cohesive offensive approach, often confused or going one on one.
Meanwhile, the Spurs relentlessly execute their offense, breaking down the defenses, and utilizing option after option if the first play doesn't result in a good shot.
Whether you should play your centers depends on what your options are at center and who you're playing against. We won the 2005 title because Robert Horry was 100% less shitty than either of our centers. Miami won last year's title with Chris Bosh as their starting center.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Rasho and Nazr sucked except in specific matchups, and they held us back for years. Two years ago, Tiago wasn't remotely ready for playoff minutes. Last year, we couldn't score when Tiago and Tim were on the floor together, so we didn't play them together. We might have been able to adapt some of the schemes and coach him up given enough time, but he was injured a lot. This year, he can actually post up guards when he gets a favorable matchup, and Tim's even more of a threat from the elbow, so we can still get good spacing. The result: a great lineup with two legit big men.