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I've wanted Spurs vs. Heat for a long time too. It would have been nice in 2005, 2006 or 2012. But this Heat team in 2013 might be too good.
Still think Pacers are easier to defeat though.
I agree. If the Spurs would happen to win, it would make it that much sweeter. Also, it would "legitimize" the title. It would take away the excuse that the Spurs had an easy path to the championship. Plus, nothing like taking down Superfriends, tbh.
Yall are crazy imo. I'd rather face the opponent that would give us the best chance of winning, which is easily Indiana. No one's going to remember this if we barely lose the them but put up a "valiant effort." Not afraid of Miami, but I'd much rather play the Pacers. But, the point is moot anyways, cause we're playing Miami.
This Spurs team has been getting better and better each round this postseason. If we land the Heat , then I predict Spurs in 5. :flag:
Pacers won't be able to do what they did to the Knicks/Heat against Tim/Tiago. Tiago has a soft mentality, but he's still 6'10+ and can deal with David West.
Pacers = easy championship
The Heat championship would be a whole lot sweeter, especially in the history books. 10 years from now this is a championship against, 3-4 hall of famers, 2 top 10 players and an overall deep team. (Even if they aren't playing like it now)
I don't like the Spurs odds against the Heat though, they match up a whole lot better imo. We saw that big ball isn't gonna beat the Spurs the last round, small ball probably will. We all know how Tiago/Tim defend against shooting bigs. They let them take those mid range shooters. Bosh can drain those. If I were ya'll I'd be praying for the Pacers. They aren't a threat to the Spurs.
Officiating would be a concern to me.
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Originally Posted by Spurs and Mavs fan
You think Miami's gotten the advantage in officiating against the Pacers?
Be careful what you wish for. The Heat carry more of a resemblance to the Warriors and Thunder rather than the Grizzlies, and we've all seen that it is not exactly smooth sailing for the Spurs in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
I would prefer a Spurs v. Houston Comets Finals tbh.
Yeah, Pacers more like LA and Grizz! They are a big slower team with a weaker backcourt! The Spurs match up better with that style of play.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
I hope the Pacers win in 7. Forget the Heat-apologist excuses and the grander glory, whatever is the best chance for the Spurs to win #5, which is beating an emotionally drained Indiana.
Easier matchup for the Spurs is Indiana. If Spurs can check Memphis' bigs they can check Indiana's and there isn't a PG nearly as good as Conley on Indiana. Hill can't check Parker and Joseph would match up Augustin well. Kawhi can give George problems and Spurs just have more offensive firepower than Indiana.
Birdman suspended will hopefully help Indiana win game 6 then it's a one game shot in game 7. Probably wont happen but that's the matchup that would be better
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Originally Posted by BatManu20
If Indiana makes it back to Miami, no way are they winning a game 7 at their place. Lebron/Stern won't allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
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Originally Posted by Spurs and Mavs fan
Absolutely. Heat players like Lebron and Battier constantly flop, and they are constantly rewarded for it.
Plus Chris Anderson was somehow able to blindside a player, and then shove that same player, and avoid an ejection. Meanwhile Nazr Mohammad was ejected for merely shoving Lebron James.
Officiating is absolutely a concern for anyone playing the Heat.
It'll be the best Finals in a while for numerous reasons.
I hope the Spurs sweep them. Then I will have an excuse to act like this dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGXDKrUoVrw
I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Head says pacers, heart says heat
Who doesn't
You didn't sell much there blake.
I didn't at first, but at this point, I'm all for a chance to make Lebron 0-2 against the Spurs in the Finals. I think each team will be tough in their own right, but the reward is much bigger beating the Heat
I'd love a Spurs/Heat Finals. For Miami to be team to end the Spurs era once and for all along with handing them their first finals loss will be fucking sweeter than the assfucking they gave OKC last year.
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Originally Posted by xellos88330
:lmao wtf?
Well then if that's the case, like you said yourself, the point is moot. I just hope Parker and Duncan keep their momentum going.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ffadicted
Pacers would be easier, but beating the latest bandwagon, all style & no substance team would be more rewarding.
however, like I said prior to the Lakers series, ultimately I don't care who we face, as long as we are healthy and ready to play to our potential, I don't worry about things we have no control over.
I wish for the Heat. Screw the smooth sailing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
I'd prefer a Spurs-Bobcats final tbh
About a month ago, I thought we'd have to shoot the lights out in order to beat Miami in the Finals. But with Wade as slow as he is right now, Miami is a one-man team. Methinks Pop can figure that one out.
Winning is the only thing that matters. If we have a better chance to beat the Pacers than the Heat (which we obviously do) then we should be rooting for the Pacers.
We shouldn't sacrifice potentially winning a championship for the hype of a single playoff series...give me a break.
There's a reason Parker is texting George Hill pointers on how to beat the Heat. And there's a reason Duncan is also allegedly texting Hibbert for the same reason.
Because the Spurs are smart. They don't want to play the Heat and potentially lose. They want to play the Pacers and have a better chance at winning another championship. And we should too.
Who exactly calls you "pro", TheyCallMePro?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheyCallMePro
I just want a fucking title so give me the better matchup.
So you prefer the opponent with the lesser chance of beating. Might as well go out in a blaze of glory, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Ballsy. Insane, but ballsy.
I agree with you sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
lol, very eloquently put.Quote:
Originally Posted by ffadicted
Indiana vs Spurs is boring and forgettable, even for Spursfan aside from it being #5.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
Need the sweetness of knocking off the champs who had the best record in the NBA and the best player on the planet.
Especially after beating a 7 seed, 6 seed and 5 seed to get here.
Pacers. And not just because I know the Spurs can beat them. I enjoy watching the Pacers and I like George Hill. And I hate Miami and would love to see them fail in the ECF.
The title is legit no matter how you get it. Because you have to get through any number of teams to do it. Basketball is a game of match-ups; the Warriors were a tough matchup for the Spurs, for all the Spurs are a better team. The talk of legitimacy is only talk of jaded and bitter fans. If the Spurs get it, they earned it, no matter who the opponent happens to be. Was 2007 any less legitimate for being the effing Cavaliers? They were a shit team who would have been curb-stomped in the West. But we still have the trophy and the title and the ring and the banner. 2005 was not more legitimate because we played a 7 game series against the reigning champs. Come on now.
I don't understand why people feel like the Spurs need to prove something - they proved it by beating their competitors in the West. There are ALWAYS complications and unknown factors that people will endlessly debate. What if Manu hadn't committed a bone-headed foul in 2006? What if the Spurs weren't fucked over in 2004 (they still collapsed all on their own)? What if OKC had a healthy Westbrook and beat Memphis?
If it's Miami, it will still be a series of "What if Wade had been healthy?" and "What if X foul hadn't been called?" or what the fuck ever, because for fans of a particular team (including analysts who favor teams), there is always a question that makes the win over your team less than legit.
Besides, I fear for my television set if we play Miami; their play and the favoritism shown them (in analysis, in commercials, in officiating) offends me.
I see your point, but really it's just the two sides of a coin: safer but boring or perilous but glorious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
the other thing is, I'm not sure it's much safer to play the Pacers.
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Originally Posted by Blake
L-O-fucking-L
Saying that means practically admitting that we don't have the chance against Miami if we face them in the finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheyCallMePro
If the spurs is going to win it all...I'd prefer that they earn it the best way and prove to everybody that they are the best team. Their team - first concept of play out match Miami's individualistic plays. Its not just about winning, it in the way you win it.
Lol, do you remeber the finals from 30 years ago and the path the winners took? Thats what I thought. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by genomefreak13
I know about every playoff series the Spurs have ever been in. I want another dazzling one to look back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
Pacers don't cut it.
I think there will be fair officiating if the Spurs play the Pacers.
Imagine being a Pistons fan in 2005. Do you think that they wondered, "Would we rather see the Pistons play the Suns or Spurs in the Finals?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Those who preferred the Spurs probably wish Detroit had played the Suns instead.
Every championship is dazzling.
I want the win. The team is irrelevant except in matchups. Pacers are a better match-up by far in relation to the end goal.
Heh. Funny to see so many who decry the NBA playing up the Superstars...hoping so much to play the Superstars.
But, I'm sure it's just about showing everybody else how silly they are for focusing on those Superstars, eh?
Irony
The key will be Parker regardless. If he plays like a Finals MVP the Spurs will win. It might be easier for him to do that against the Heat.
Or a Cavaliers fan in '07. You would have probably wanted to play the Jazz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs and Mavs fan
There's a Piston forum around here somewhere. You should ask them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs and Mavs fan
I want to, but Heat's role players are Spurs killer. It's going to be a tough 5th, but not impossible. I'm leaning towards a 65-35 chances in favor of Heat.
varying degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by easjer
If they were going for title one, I might want or be ok with the low hanging fruit like you.
At the risk of oversimplification, there are two mentalities present here: Low-risk, low-reward, vs. high-risk, high-reward.
Those who prefer low-risk, low-reward would rather face the Pacers. Greater likelihood of winning that 5th trophy, but it wouldn't be as satisfying as beating the Heat.
Those who prefer high-risk, high-reward would rather face the Heat. Less likelihood of winning (in other words, greater risk of losing,) but would be a very satisfying championship if indeed won.
Eye of the beholder and all that. Watching Timmy hoist a fifth trophy would be damned satisfying, period. Over the Heat, over the Pacers - same fucking difference to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs and Mavs fan
Low hanging fruit? Yeah, ok.
Who gives a shit? It's the Spurs vs someone else in the NBA Finals.
At the end of the day, it will be one or the other... these debates/preferences will mean little as we face the eventual opponent.
I'd rather believe/trust in our team to be prepared & well rested to give their all once the Finals begin... as I expect them to be victorious, yet again :king
I don't know but this one concerns me. Putting LeBron or Battier on Parker might be a nightmare for him. I dunno. The only legit whom is 6'7" guards Parker in the Playoffs is Thompson and he's not even that good defender. I dunno. Still having a nightmare when Brooks puts Thabo on Tony. But the brighter side is, Parker has been playing MVP level this year compared last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by therealtruth
A series win by the Spurs over the Heat would be so much sweeter in that it would not only legitimize the Spurs as NBA Champions, but it would stick a plate of crow down the throats of all those (fans, analysts and pundits alike), who have basically handed the Larry O'Brien trophy to the Heat since the start of the season.
did LeBron try to ever defend Tony in 07 when he was finals MVP?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickiRasgo
I don't recall.
Yup. But 2013 is way way way better than 2007 overall. He's capable of guarding from 1-3 position. I'm not saying that LeBron will guard Parker most of the time but there's a possibility though I think it'll be Battier most of the time. Just like what happened last Western Conference Finals, Brooks puts Thabo on Tony. But just like what I said Parker this year is way better than last year. I dunno. Spurs will need 2010/2011 Ginobili in this NBA Finals too. Leonard and Green too should play active too. I'm not really that confident that the Spurs will dominate against the Heat but I think they can. I'm hoping as well that Battier/Allen/Chalmers continues to struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
:tu agree with this one. I am praying Pacers will prevail...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cagney
For what? What are you going to do with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
I want to see if the Spurs are really all that good like so many on this board think so bring on the Heat.
I want Spurs/Pacers because . . . fuck Stern.
I like Spurs vs. Heat for the "Team vs. Superhero" match up.
Enjoy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
A total of 7 hall of famers out there.....epic indeed.
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Every Finals since 1999 has featured Spurs, Lakers or Heat. 2013 NBA Finals could feature both Spurs + Heat
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Originally Posted by TE
Give me one good reason why u would want the spurs era to end?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMMYtoZO
Love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
Since like 1983 or something like that, only 8 teams have won the championship.
Pistons, Lakers, Bulls, Rockets, Celtics, Spurs, Heat, Mavericks(only 1 appearance/win)
A spurs-Indy finals would instantly trigger a "ratings hell" refund clause in the tv contract. Stern no likee.
I feel we can beat either team. The matchups against Indiana are much more clearly defined and certainly favors us, but Miami looks weaker than last year. With a gimpy wade and bosh being relegated to pure spot up duty, it was awfully reminiscent of the Lebron cavs. Their only real rim protector is birdman, but he's a lesser ibaka on defense while killing their spacing on offense. He cant defend the post, but he's a weakside shotblocker
It's going to be the Heat, even if this goes 7 LeBron will drag this bunch over the finish line even if some of them don't want to go. Then the Spurs just have to go after it. The Heat have flaws and some guys on their team that normally make them a great team are not playing well. Spurs can win the series, how people can be watching them struggle this much with the Pacers and still think we got no chance is beyond me?
Some of you guys are so "honorable." Who cares if the opponent is injured, or the competition is weaker. I disagree about the low-risk, low-reward, high-risk, high reward. It's low/high risk, HIGH REWARD either way. A championship is a championship in the books - no asterisk beside it. Take the path of least resistance - why should I have a heart attack watching Lebron gain more notoriety and possibly climb further up the GOAT list when I can sit back and relax knowing that SA can defend IND and has way more firepower.
And just because Wade, Bosh, Allen and Battier are struggling against IND doesn't mean they'll struggle with SAS. Completely different team and series. They'll feel a sense of relief getting through IND and be re-vitalized for SAS who can't punish them down low - because TD no longer plays the low post and Splitter is not exactly punishing down low. It's all about match ups - MEM was a sweep when everyone expected a tough series. GSW was difficult when theorically they shouldn't have had much problems with them. Low-post vs small-ball. MIA with Lebron is the best small-ball team there is.
Not as bad as the assfucking LeBron took in the 2007 finals, get ready for that and worse you assfucked clown! :nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by TIMMYtoZO
Right on! If Miami "Big" 3 all died right before the series it's still just as sweet to me! We can always argue we handle them even with those three anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
I could give a damn though, we're going to buzz saw through the team, refs, Stern, whatever the hell they put in our way!
not say that Spurs are not secertly rooting for Pacers especialy with Hill on that team ...but I dont think they fear the Heat. Mavs were not scared in 2011 and they had none of the proven championship mettle. I say they would not mind the easier road but I think they would welcome the challenge the team has more heart than the fanbase tbh ...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheyCallMePro
Sorry but Spurs don't have a Dirk they can go to for an almost automatic bucket. Pardon me, if I don't put Parker in that category. I've seen him shut down too often to want to risk playing the Heat. Spurs have no Prime Duncan and MIA has the prime superstar on their roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
IND needs to have P. George or Stevenson lower their heads, drive to the basket and toss it up there. Chances are even if they miss, Hibbert or West will clean up the glass (especially with Birdman out) or they'll get fouled. This passing around the perimeter runs down the shot clock - better hope for an offensive rebound than a shot clock violation/turnover. And seriously, why can't they get Hibbert the ball most trips down? George Hill, that last game was pitiful.
Sure Parker cant shoot as good as Dirk but Parker scoring just as effectively coming off the WCF ...Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
I get you respecting the Heat especially Lebron I just think the players have more confidence than you do ....are you disputing this?!
I wanted the Spurs to beat the Heat.
INDIANA, is easier to beat though because game 1 starts in S.A. HOME COURT ADVANTAGE is always a PLUS !
2 actually. The first one vs the Heat. And lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDomination
I would hope that the players have more confidence than I do, but the premise of this thread is that the op wants the heat and I should too. I disagree. Plus, Lebron not even making the Finals will put a serious dent in all this hype about him matching up to MJ. What he's bypassed Hakeem, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Bird, Magic, etc. to be compared to MJ? Everyone will forget the streak, forget the 4 MVPs and be thinking "only 1 ring out of all that"? Riley will be forced to re-think his roster as Hibbert is going nowhere (and George will only get better), Rose will be back and who knows where Bynum will land (if you think Hibbert gives MIA problems, Bynum will give them more - he just needs a decent team around him).Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
Fuck that shit I want the Spurs championship to be like the Heat team. "Success without having to work hard for it" Bring on Indy
I don't care who we play, tbf. I also think it would be a HELLUVA lot funnier if The Heat lost to The Pacers, and didn't even get to The Finals. The Pacers would've obviously proved themselves worthy enough to be our opponents... so I don't understand what the big deal is really. ... I thought Spurs fans weren't supposed to care about BS-Superstar hype? I know I sure as Hell don't.
whatever team is easier to beat is team I want. I dont want an entertaining series, I was a sweep
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Originally Posted by SouthernFried
agre with OP. Spurs Heat would be the finals to watch. so many stars. old and new. I hope this happens
beating Heat > beating Pacers > losing to Pacers > losing to Heat
Bring on the Heat!
You know what, this is the Spurs year to win it for Timmy!
I think the Spurs team can beat either Indiana or Heat in a 7 game series.
NBA teams are 45-18 with homecourt in the Finals, with identical winning percentages before (71.4) and after (71.4) the league switched to the 2-3-2 format in 1985 to cut down on cross-country travel. The home team is 14-3 in Finals Game 7s, including the aforementioned Spurs victory over Detroit.
Dumb thread tbh
Personally I wanna see Kawhi shut down Paul George tbh. Over! rated! *clap clap clapclapclap*
:lol Phag with his slow motion dribble can't handle the ball without carrying it lol.
:lol or turning it over
:lol NBA/TNT trying to sell him as a superstar
Someone try to tell me that a game 1 win against the Pacers would have tasted more delicious than this.
So, if we got to pick again, would anyone here still want a Spurs/Pacers finals?
In any outcome in which the Spurs win Game 6 or 7, I'd stick with the Spurs-Heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Any other outcome and I'd have preferred the Pacers. I'd much rather the Spurs lose to the Pacers than the Heat, if it came to that.