How much is Jarret Jack worth?

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Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21

I don't like Jack nearly as much as all of you. He is mediocre, he is a streaky jump shooter who can't play D and doesn't have the size we need. Right now the Spurs need a little more size, and a player who can create their own Offense. Right about now Parker is looking like the only guy we have who can do so. Tim to a lesser extent, and Manu fell of the map. Leonard needs to work on his dribbling/handle. He is close to being able to create. Jack isn't a bad player, but he doesn't get us where we need to be. I say no.

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Well like it or not, there are no other options. The only other guy that I can think of is Tyreke Evans. There is also Nate Robinson. Nate is too short though and he doesn't play defense either. I much rather have a larger version of Nate in Jarrett Jack or Tyreke Evans.

Tony is quickly arriving at the point where we'll have to start limiting his minutes
a guy like jarrett jack. could solve a lot of those problems and completely replace Ginobili Neal and help Parker.

We aren't over paying Jack. Get over it. No, Jack can't replace Manu, he is smaller. It's not happening.

I think our best realistic options are Al Jefferson or Andre Iguodala.

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Originally Posted by elmanutres

:lol wow, jarret jack and neal on the same team.
Two chuckers who completely play off the system 50% of the time.

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I would rather have Jack anyday over one dimensional Neal though, he can actually play the backup PG and drive inside. Neal just sucks IMO.

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Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21

We aren't over paying Jack. Get over it. No, Jack can't replace Manu, he is smaller. It's not happening.

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I agree on this.

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Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21

We aren't over paying Jack. Get over it. No, Jack can't replace Manu, he is smaller. It's not happening.

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His true value will be determined starting July 1st which is when free agency talks begin. I think the Spurs should be the first bidder and have a serious talk with him and remind him that we were one backup PG (more like a free throw or rebound) away from winning a championship. BTW Jarrett Jack sure didn't seem mediocre to me the way he was killing us in the playoffs. The playoffs are where players make a name for themselves. Jarrett Jack is clutch and he will get you that big shot when you most need it.

Jarrett Jack would be a better Neal (though not as potentially explosive) but he surely is NOT a manu replacement. are you really willing to pay 6 mil+ for a Neal replacement? no thank you

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

Jarrett Jack would be a better Neal (though not as potentially explosive) but he surely is NOT a manu replacement. are you really willing to pay 6 mil+ for a Neal replacement? no thank you

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Hell yeah that's a good deal. Better than resigning Manu and Splitter that's for sure. As a matter of fact, I rather Manu retire and use Manu's salary to sign Jarrett Jack. Swallow that.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

This comment tells me about your great knowledge in basketball. You're probably one of them peeps that insists on overpaying and keeping Manu. You're probably also one of those peeps that insists the Spurs waste all of their cap space to resign Blair, Mills, Manu, and Splitter.

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You're attacking my knowledge of basketball on the basis of your infatuation with a 6'3 shoot-first PG with limited passing skills. Quick sucking Jarret Jack's dick just because he went off against the Spurs during the playoffs, the Spurs play against the Warriors during the playoffs was designed so only Jarret Jack could get the open looks while covering Klay and Curry. Also, take aside my knowledge of basketball for a second and think about your knowledge of cap space and salaries. Given Jarret Jack's current market value to other teams and how much the Spurs paid Gary Neal this current season, is the additional salary worth what Jarret Jack can offer? I don't think so.

Spurs are WAY better off spending money on the likes of Andre Igoudala, or a big like ThaBigFundamental21 said. I'm also open to the idea of Andrei Kirilenko joining the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Hell yeah that's a good deal. Better than resigning Manu and Splitter that's for sure. As a matter of fact, I rather Manu retire and use Manu's salary to sign Jarrett Jack. Swallow that.

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I'd rather you retire from this thread.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Hell yeah that's a good deal. Better than resigning Manu and Splitter that's for sure. As a matter of fact, I rather Manu retire and use Manu's salary to sign Jarrett Jack. Swallow that.

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:frying:

Jarrett jack hits shots on the big stage. Something we need off the bench. someone like chalmers, Jason terry.

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Originally Posted by sexinthatsx

You're attacking my knowledge of basketball on the basis of your infatuation with a 6'3 shoot-first PG with limited passing skills. Quick sucking Jarret Jack's dick just because he went off against the Spurs during the playoffs, the Spurs play against the Warriors during the playoffs was designed so only Jarret Jack could get the open looks while covering Klay and Curry. Also, take aside my knowledge of basketball for a second and think about your knowledge of cap space and salaries. Given Jarret Jack's current market value to other teams and how much the Spurs paid Gary Neal this current season, is the additional salary worth what Jarret Jack can offer? I don't think so.

Spurs are WAY better off spending money on the likes of Andre Igoudala, or a big like ThaBigFundamental21 said. I'm also open to the idea of Andrei Kirilenko joining the Spurs.

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Andre Igoudala...:lmao

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Originally Posted by sexinthatsx

You're attacking my knowledge of basketball on the basis of your infatuation with a 6'3 shoot-first PG with limited passing skills. Quick sucking Jarret Jack's dick just because he went off against the Spurs during the playoffs, the Spurs play against the Warriors during the playoffs was designed so only Jarret Jack could get the open looks while covering Klay and Curry. Also, take aside my knowledge of basketball for a second and think about your knowledge of cap space and salaries. Given Jarret Jack's current market value to other teams and how much the Spurs paid Gary Neal this current season, is the additional salary worth what Jarret Jack can offer? I don't think so.
Spurs are WAY better off spending money on the likes of Andre Igoudala, or a big like ThaBigFundamental21 said. I'm also open to the idea of Andrei Kirilenko joining the Spurs.

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Iggy had a PER of 15.25 so that would be an excellent signing. He could be the perfect guy to replace Manu as the 6th man and I'm pretty sure Chipp Engelland can improve Iggy's shooting. Iggy would have to accept coming off the bench though and I don't know how much he would cost. We cannot have him as a starter TBH because we need Green to spread the floor with the starters for TP, Duncan, and Kawhi's emergence.

AK47 would be nice but he doesn't fill the needs as far having another ball handler or a big man that is not as feminated as Tiago Splitter. If the Spurs can get AK for cheap then I'm all for it but I doubt that will happen.

All in all I still I rather have Jack or a backup PG as that extra ball handler off the bench than relying on a bigger SG like Tyreky Evans or Iggy to be the playmaker. Whatever rout the Spurs take, any of the names that we've all mentioned would be great fits for the Spurs. They would all be better options than overpaying Manu.

Can't overpay him. Remember the last big bust with Jefferson?

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Originally Posted by DieHardSpursFan1537

Can't overpay him. Remember the last big bust with Jefferson?

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Oh that was plain stupidity by the FO. I was against that move from day 1 and I knew he would fuck the Spurs. Seriously, why would you want a guy that can't create his own shot, a guy that plays no defense, and a guy that can't shoot. I think the FO expected Jefferson to be that same high-flier from NJ.

I do agree though. Can't overpay guys that are past their prime and washed up like Manu. So I hope Manu does us a favor and retires. No more "oh, lets overpay him" because of this loyalty BS.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Oh that was plain stupidity by the FO. I was against that move from day 1 and I knew he would fuck the Spurs. Seriously, why would you want a guy that can't create his own shot, a guy that plays no defense, and a guy that can't shoot. I think the FO expected Jefferson to be that same high-flier from NJ.

I do agree though. Can't overpay guys that are past their prime and washed up like Manu. So I hope Manu does us a favor and retires. No more "oh, lets overpay him" because of this loyalty BS.

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His age has hit him badly. The guy is bound for another injury next year. At 35, it's time to pull the plug.

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Originally Posted by DieHardSpursFan1537

His age has hit him badly. The guy is bound for another injury next year. At 35, it's time to pull the plug.

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:toastWell said.

What is it with the Jared Jack obsession? Just because he can score some, doesn't mean he's a good player.
He turns the ball over more than Gino, and is a below average passer for a point, and you haven't even gotten too his below average defense, taking bonehead risks on D, and getting burnt crispy by good ball movement.
If that's not bad enough, he's 30, lol.
Just ask Golden State fans, they'd gladly be rid of him to any fool team that would take him off their hands.

I thought our reliance on Manu as Tony's backup was the worst thing for Manu and the team. If we spend the summer, training camp, and give them a lot of minutes, perhaps Nando or Joseph can be groomed to be TP's back up. Obviously when push came to shove they, rightly or wrongly, Pop didn't think they were up for it. I think we need to develope one or both of them to be ready next year. Also, need a backup 3....

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Originally Posted by spurs10

I thought our reliance on Manu as Tony's backup was the worst thing for Manu and the team. If we spend the summer, training camp, and give them a lot of minutes, perhaps Nando or Joseph can be groomed to be TP's back up. Obviously when push came to shove they, rightly or wrongly, Pop didn't think they were up for it. I think we need to develope one or both of them to be ready next year. Also, need a backup 3....

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I like Tyreky Evans or Andre Iguadala. Should the Spurs pick up Iggy, they need to make sure that he's willing to come off the bench. I don't want Iggy as a starter else there won't be any shooters on the floor. Danny Green spreads the floor for Duncan, TP, and now Kawhi with his emergence.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Well like it or not, there are no other options. The only other guy that I can think of is Tyreke Evans. There is also Nate Robinson. Nate is too short though and he doesn't play defense either. I much rather have a larger version of Nate in Jarrett Jack or Tyreke Evans.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

I like Tyreky Evans or Andre Iguadala. Should the Spurs pick up Iggy, they need to make sure that he's willing to come off the bench. I don't want Iggy as a starter else there won't be any shooters on the floor. Danny Green spreads the floor for Duncan, TP, and now Kawhi with his emergence.

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I see a lot of disappointment in your future, tbh :lol

Jack is so overrated.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I see a lot of disappointment in your future, tbh

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I see a lot of disappointment in your "let's stay pat, let's waste all our cap space in resigning Splitter & Manu, and develop CoJo & DeColo while Duncan & Parker get older" attitude.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Jack is so overrated.

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2013 Playoffs Jarrett Jack - 17.2 PPG, 50% FG, 89% FT, 4.4 RPB, 4.7 RPG, > Manu Ginobili

Sure, Jarret Jack is overrated.

I like the idea of adding Jack, but I do worry he will cost too much. Nate Robinson is another, cheaper choice who could really get the job done too. He's small, but he's fast as fuck and good shooter.

Plus we'd get to see the occaisional showtime dunk from his tiny body :P