Is Baynes ready for solid minutes next season?

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Thanks :king for backing up my point.

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infact he is only 6'6" without shoes

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paul-Millsap-299/

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Originally Posted by palangi

this is not true at all. I live in utah and have seen milsap up close for his whole career. he is not worth getting and he is not bigger than diaw. milsap is only 6'7". having diaw already is good enough for undersized PF's. plus milsap is going to be looking for a good sized contract. You really need to get off milsap, he is not what you think he is. infact if you want a player like him, we could go taller and younger in earl clark. clark would also be a lot cheaper as well.

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With all due respect, this is quite contradictory to what I've been told by a few Jazz fans that I personally know. They have told me Millsap looks more like a 6'9" guy and hey plays with a lot of strength. Earl Clark was a flash in the pan from my point of view; plus, he's not that strong or big (weight-wise).

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Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose

With all due respect, this is quite contradictory to what I've been told by a few Jazz fans that I personally know. They have told me Millsap looks more like a 6'9" guy and hey plays with a lot of strength. Earl Clark was a flash in the pan from my point of view; plus, he's not that strong or big (weight-wise).

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please look at this link. and I have personally stood next to paul. he is not 6'9" no matter how bad you want it to be.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paul-Millsap-299/

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Originally Posted by palangi

please look at this link. and I have personally stood next to paul. he is not 6'9" no matter how bad you want it to be.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paul-Millsap-299/

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I'm just going off what my friends that are Jazz fans said. I trust their judgment because they seem to understand pro basketball pretty well. They have also told me that Al Jefferson not really all that he's hyped up to be. His stats on paper are sort of misleading.

funny because most jazz fans here are ready for paul to move on. I bet even your friends are ready for this.

but hey keep ignoring the link i sent you that shows his measurements from the combine.

I think so. Send him to Vegas & see how he does.

I didn't think about it, but he may be as good as Splitter.

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Originally Posted by palangi

funny because most jazz fans here are ready for paul to move on. I bet even your friends are ready for this.

but hey keep ignoring the link i sent you that shows his measurements from the combine.

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I did look at it and it does bring up some points. I respect the source. And maybe Jazz fans are ready to part with him; that doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad player. I think pairing him next to Duncan would bring out a whole lot of good things in him.

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Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose

I did look at it and it does bring up some points. I respect the source. And maybe Jazz fans are ready to part with him; that doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad player. I think pairing him next to Duncan would bring out a whole lot of good things in him.

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fair enough we all get opinions. mine is that he is not worth the money he will get. and I don't want to see the spurs overpay for his services.

he doesn't have a go to guy attribute that Splitter has in him some, Splitter has his pros and cons, but he is more quality player overall than what Baynes will ever be i belive, just wish we sign Splitter to a reasonable contract and he is work on his game a lot in the summer to become an improve player.

baynes go to attribute is his rim protection and physicality. something we really lack. baynes also brings a better outside game as he is good from 15-17' out. something splitter does not have. baynes hook shot is also on par with splitter.

infact the only thing splitter has on baynes is his pick and roll offense. but this is something baynes can get better at and he will be a more physical finisher, unlike your boy charmin splitter.

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Originally Posted by palangi

baynes got attribute is his rim protection and physicality. something we really lack. baynes also brings a better outside game as he is good from 15-17' out. something splitter does not have. baynes hook shot is also on par with splitter.

infact the only thing splitter has on baynes is his pick and roll offense. but this is something baynes can get better at and he will be a more physical finisher, unlike your boy charmin splitter.

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only on paper baynes got those attributes, it's other thing to actually perform them and making your game effective.
Splitter has better IQ and intangibles making him a lot of times very valuable player...

If you can't sign him to a decent contract then you better look at getting someone else even if we have Baynes.

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Originally Posted by kobyz

only on paper baynes got those attributes, it's other thing to actually perform them and making your game effective.
Splitter has better IQ and intangibles making him a lot of times very valuable player...

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I think he showed these down at the NBDL and over seas. granted i will agree that isn't at the NBA level it shows that he does have the ability to bring what splitter can't.

Baynes averaged 2.7 fouls in 8.8 mpg in the NBA last year. That's almost a foul every 3 minutes. He's a big strong center who plays with toughness, but the idea that he could replace Splitter is ludicrous.

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Originally Posted by Mr Bones

Baynes averaged 2.7 fouls in 8.8 mpg in the NBA last year. That's almost a foul every 3 minutes. He's a big strong center who plays with toughness, but the idea that he could replace Splitter is ludicrous.

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to be fair to baynes a lot of times that is what he was brought in to do. be physical push people around and use his 6 fouls.

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Originally Posted by palangi

to be fair to baynes a lot of times that is what he was brought in to do. be physical push people around and use his 6 fouls.

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He had trouble with fouling a lot in college, in the D League, and in Europe. He'll be 27 years old next season. I admire his toughness, but hoping that he'll play in the NBA without racking up lots of fouls per minute is just not realistic.

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Originally Posted by palangi

I think he showed these down at the NBDL and over seas. granted i will agree that isn't at the NBA level it shows that he does have the ability to bring what splitter can't.

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to me he only showed that he is a good rebounder, no much more.

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Originally Posted by kobyz

to me he only showed that he is a good rebounder, no much more.

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Didn't we just lose a championship because of a rebound?

I don't want to commit multiple years to Paul millsap

What I like about baynes is that hes strong....not like splitter.....splitter is weak

Well they brought Baynes in for a reason. I'm thinking it was in case Splitter walked.

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Originally Posted by kobyz

only on paper baynes got those attributes, it's other thing to actually perform them and making your game effective.
Splitter has better IQ and intangibles making him a lot of times very valuable player...

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I certainly think Pop abadoned Splitter too quickly. He gave Ginobili a long enough leash to choke. Splitter's main value was implementing our game plan. Plus he was effective at getting shots around the basket. It's kind of telling that when we abandon the starting lineup and rotation that got us to the Finals is when we lose. What good is it to play one way all year and then try changing our stripes when it matters? You have to trust your guys and Pop for some reason doesn't have that trust with Splitter.

If we'd had him earlier he could have been worked in this year. I think he's going to be better than Splitter and certainly won't get his shots stuffed back into his throat as often.

Spurstalk experts have certified that Baynes is the next coming of Wilt Chamberlain.

Better, becuase he also has a midrange jumper.

Awesome.