Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
chazley
Tiago is an excellent fit on this team because he can play the 5 on offense and the 4 on defense - the opposite of Tim. If you pick up a guy to replace him, it has to be a guy who is a good finisher around the rim and can defend the pick and roll with quick feet/hands. We had the best defensive lineup in the league this season when Tiago started, and Tiago was a huge reason for that because he fit so well next to Tim.
That's a good point, when Duncan and Splitter play together, the Spurs are at their best defensively. But how useful is that if Splitter can't even stay on the floor against teams that go small like the Heat and the Thunder? Splitter couldn't even take advantage against Mike Miller or Shane Battier. Does Splitter's good defense even matter if he can't play against the top elite teams like the Heat and Thunder? Both are teams that love to go small and are also the biggest challenges to a championship. If the Rockets get Howard, the Warriors get Lee back 100%, and the Grizzlies somehow get better, Splitter does have a role to play. But to commit too large of a salary for someone who will only receive limited minutes against elite teams isn't too wise. At least with a big like Millsap, he can play small ball PF and score against smaller forwards.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
024
For people who don't want Splitter back or just want to dramatically low ball his contract are going to be sorely disappointed. In Pop's exit interview, you get the tone that he wants to bring most of the team back. And judging for the Spurs' love of the status quo, Tiago will be returning.
At 14 M for 3 years, he will.
If they want to spend 7/8 M per year, they should go for Nikola Pekovic.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
temujin
At 14 M for 3 years, he will.
If they want to spend 7/8 M per year, they should go for Nikola Pekovic.
Pekovic is worth way more than $7-8 million and he's also a restricted free agent, meaning the wolves will most likely match whatever contract to retain him.
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SpursSerb
Sign and Trade?Possible?
I don't think there's anyone available on the Blazers to sign and trade for.
Blazers having interest in Splitter is probably not good. They are desperate for a big to pair next to Aldridge. The Wolves will most likely match whatever the Blazers throw at Pekovic, leaving Splitter as the other option. The media has also linked Gortat with the Blazers, hopefully a deal materializes. Otherwise, Splitter will be glad to sign a 3 year/$30 million contract, putting the Spurs in a bad position on whether to match or not.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
Bruno pointed out that the Spurs could keep Splitter and acquire Millsap, which would be the perfect scenario for this team, tbh..
It would solve the offense issues in the frontcourt along with spacing the floor, while still having Splitter on the team for defensive purposes..
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Couple of things that come to mind... how many teams are out there that can realistically start a bid war for him? Mavs, Cavs, who else?
I also think Tiago has room to grow. Sometimes people gets stuck with the last impression, but he did improve considerably from last season to this one. He definitely has more work to do. The question is what do the Spurs think his ceiling is, and what's the limit they're willing to pay for that.
I think if the Spurs can get him back for around 7-8/season, it would be a good deal. I just suspect some teams might think he's worth much more.
The Trail Blazers, Mavs and maybe Hawks, are probably going to be the most serious suitors.
He didn't improve a lick (other than his free throw shooting, but '12 was more an off season than anything; historically, he was never that poor a free throw shooter), he just got more minutes. He is what he is: An outstanding roll man and finisher, decent passer and solid all around defender, that can't shoot a lick, has a middling post game, is a mediocre and erratic rebounder and a sub par shot blocker. He's also incredibly soft and can't be relied on when the going get's tough.
I've said all along and will continue to, that I believe being a Spur will mean more to him than getting every last cent (in which case, he'll accept something like 4/$32M). If it's the opposite, then he's more than likely gone.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Bruno pointed out that the Spurs could keep Splitter and acquire Millsap, which would be the perfect scenario for this team, tbh..
It would solve the offense issues in the frontcourt along with spacing the floor, while still having Splitter on the team for defensive purposes..
If the Spurs re-sign Splitter, I rather the rest of the money go towards a Ginobili replacement. Ginobili can stay for much less money but there's no way the Spurs should hand over the reigns of the offense to him for long stretches of time. Also, Neal's status is questionable. That pretty much leaves Joseph to run the offense when the bench enters. I can see the Spurs offering a sizable contract to someone like OJ Mayo if they sign Ginobili cheap (or let him walk). Mayo has been inconsistent and is sometimes as turnover prone as Ginobili but he's only 25. He can act as the combo guard Ginobili was supposed to be.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
I'm not a fan of Mayo, but I wouldn't mind that move either, tbh..
A lot of people here seem to believe defense was a problem this year, which is completely false, tbh..the Spurs defense was elite all year, their problem was poor offensive contributions and erratic bench play, tbh..
Whether it's a big or a wing guy, Spurs need a player that can generate offense..having Leonard assume a larger role on offense should help, too, as he should be able to play 35+ minutes a night, including spending time with the bench unit when Parker and Duncan sit..
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Bruno pointed out that the Spurs could keep Splitter and acquire Millsap, which would be the perfect scenario for this team, tbh..
It would solve the offense issues in the frontcourt along with spacing the floor, while still having Splitter on the team for defensive purposes..
This is actually not a bad idea (coming from a Paul Millsap hater in myself). The big question is would Paul Millsap be willing to come off the bench without over paying him? Will retaining Tiago Splitter and signing Paul Millsap still allow the Spurs to address their biggest hole which is to get that desperately needed backup PG to Tony Parker or that ball handler that will relieve Manu off his ball handling duties assuming that the Spurs resign him (hopefully at the veteran's minimum)? I'm not fond of "lets develop CoJo and give him the greenlight" idea because the clock is ticking for Tim Duncan and the FO owes him that 5th ring big time.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
It would suck to lose Tiago after all this time. He just needs to be more aggressive. He made a step in the right direction this year, he will continue to improve. Keep him, let blair and bonner go. Tiago is the one of those three to keep.
Re: **Offical How Much $$$ Should the Spurs Pay Tiago Splitter Thread
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Originally Posted by
024
That's a good point, when Duncan and Splitter play together, the Spurs are at their best defensively. But how useful is that if Splitter can't even stay on the floor against teams that go small like the Heat and the Thunder? Splitter couldn't even take advantage against Mike Miller or Shane Battier. Does Splitter's good defense even matter if he can't play against the top elite teams like the Heat and Thunder? Both are teams that love to go small and are also the biggest challenges to a championship. If the Rockets get Howard, the Warriors get Lee back 100%, and the Grizzlies somehow get better, Splitter does have a role to play. But to commit too large of a salary for someone who will only receive limited minutes against elite teams isn't too wise. At least with a big like Millsap, he can play small ball PF and score against smaller forwards.
Splitter is a recipient of good ball movement. If the Spurs are moving the ball he will find a way to score.