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He really, really is reluctant to shoot. He has taken the big balls shot here or there, but he's not really a guy that feels comfortable with his shot unless he's in a hot streak... I also think he'll be back with the Knicks unless they don't want him back, which I don't think is the case...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNYKxiRJ2LAQuote:
Originally Posted by ViceCity84
So do you think a Nate Robinson--type of a player is better?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
In theory, yeah... but I just don't know if the FO considers him Spurs material...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
What happened to Tyreke Evans after his rookie season tbh? I know he got injured, but he seemed like a fantastic player that first year...and haven't heard much about him after that injury.
Same with Josh Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Ideal scenario: First buy out Bonner. Get Ginobili to re-sign for the under the cap MLE, which should be 2.6 million. Re-sign Splitter for 8 million. That should leave 13 million to sign OJ Mayo and another wing like Dunleavy.
Splitter/Baynes
Duncan/Diaw
Leonard/Dunleavy
Mayo/Green/Ginobili
Parker/Joseph
Tyreke is an incredibly talented player, but he's also an egomaniac with a bad attitude... I still remember Nocioni comments about him after he left the NBA...
“I can’t really say what I want to say because I’m on TV… Incredible talent, but I think teams sometimes should be tougher on the younger guys. What he brought to Sacramento was trouble in the locker room and that doesn’t take you nowhere."
I expect the Spurs to be aware of that memo, and I haven't seen anything from Evans that would indicate he has changed his attitude...
He wasn't really considered a potential star in his second and third seasons, but now he is considered one again after a breakout year.Quote:
Originally Posted by InK
Funny thing is, he's averaged the same per 36 numbers his whole career (18/5/4/2/1), so he's really been the same while his playing time has decreased. His PER and WS/48 were higher in his first and fourth years than they were in his middle years, though. Still, consistent per 36 numbers are what you want to see from a potential sixth man.
I don't hate Mayo, but I don't think he should start in that scenario. He'd make a fine back-court mate with Ginobili coming off the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
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Mayo was pretty damn awful with the Mavs... it's really puzzling what happened there with him...
Off-season plans must first start w/ a declaration of what is needed (and what isn't):
1). Backup PG that can score/dish/defend well enough to spell TP in the playoffs. Realistic candidates:
Devin Harris - 30 yrs old, decent scorer and passer but not known for defense. Will be expensive and may not like backup role that much
Nate Robinson - 29 yrs old, streaky shooter and is NOT afraid to shoot (shoots too much). Defensive liability but familiar w/ being a backup and could be fairly inspirational coming off the bench. Ok choice as backup if price is right.
Rodrique Beaubois - 25 yrs old, good shooter/slasher and defender but injury prone. Should be cheap but is an RFA and will cost pics
Will Bynum - 30 yrs old, good shooter (not from 3 pt range though) and OK defender. Solid but not exceptional. Might be pricy. OK choice as backup
Jarrett Jack - 29 yrs old, decent shooter from all over, good defender and used to coming off bench. Ideal backup for TP if price is right but he may not want to leave Golden State.
DJ Augustin - 25 yrs old, good shooter and passer, shorter but plays decent defense. May want to stay in Indiana but ideal TP backup
Chauncey Billups - 36 yrs old, great passer, decent shooter and excellent leader. Older and injury prone. Probably costly for a backup. Less than ideal choice.
Jerryd Bayless - 24 yrs old, decent passer, shooter, defender. Might not want to be a backup and/or leave Memphis. Should be good value though
Eric Maynor - 26 yrs old, OK shooter, passer, better defender. Should be cheap but production is just OK (may not be better than Cory)
Sebastian Telfair - 28 yrs old, much like Eric Maynor
Randy Foye - 28 yrs old, great player, scorer, leader, defender and passer. Good size and ideal backup for TP. May be costly but Utah has 4 PGs as UFAs. Excellent choice as a backup for TP.
Mo Williams - 30 yrs old, decent shooter, shorter and liability on defense. Somewhat of an attitude but shows lots of effort. Not a bad option as a backup but may be more costly.
I say Jarrett Jack, Randy Foye or possibly take a chance w/ Rodrique Beaubois.
2). Shooting guard - keep Green and Ginobili (vet min) and pick up Reggie Bullock or Glen Rice Jr in the draft.
3). Small Forward - another veteran (other than Tracy McGrady) needed. Hopefull, Davis Bertans will be one of the additions. A vet is needed also who have the size, speed and will to defend the 2, 3 and 4, can knock down open 3s and isn't afraid to bang for rebounds. Likely UFA candidates include:
Matt Barnes - 33 yrs old, gritty defender, decent shooter. Should be fairly cheap but may be a character concern.
Chase Budinger - 25 yrs old. Good shooter, slower defender but has lots of heart. Can jump fairly well and will bang on the boards. Should be cheap and decent option for backup SF but is an RFA (will cost draft pic(s)).
Andrei Kirilenko - 33 yrs old but gritty defender and good shooter. Will be fairly costly and may not want to be a backup. Has been known to have an attitude.
Chris Copeland - 29 yrs old, good defender and shooter. Great option as backup SF but is an RFA and will cost draft pics. Plus, he may not want to leave NY but may leave for more $ (was paid < $500k last yr).
Dorell Wright - 29 yrs old, good defender and shooter. Great option as backup SF. May be costly
Mikael Pietrus - 31 yrs old. Perfect model SF for Spurs (foreign, good defender and decent shooter) but injury prone. Should be fairly cheap
Martell Webster - 26 yrs old. Great model fof SF (defender, shooter, slasher). May be just the right price.
Trevor Ariza - 27 yrs old. Same as Martell Webster but MUCH more expensive.
4). Power Forward is a trick position for the Spurs. Bonner is a stretch 4 that the team needs but his defense and rebounding are a liability. Splitter is OK but needs much more experience to get to the point where he's holding his own during the playoffs. One of the stash and dash players from the past needs to step up (Ryan Richards for example) or perhaps Bertans can play the 4 as well.
5). Tim Duncan and Splitter.
Francisco Garcia also would be a solid pick up. Defends well and can shoot the 3. Would be a cheap addition.
Would like to say just because we might have the money doesn't mean we spend it.. some teams might look to salary dump. Take Memphis and Cleveland this year... Don't think the spurs go that route considering the learning curve on the system though.
LMAO I won't be watching the Spurs next season if this happens because I know that a lot of young teams in the West are going to get better such as Houston, GSW, OKC, and the Clippers. Funny thing is that there are probably some peeps on this site that would actually be happy with this scenario of staying pat while Duncan and Parker get a year older.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
What do u think, how much money is Tyreke getting? It just seems that he is an ideal fit skill wise for the Spurs, his ability to run and finish in traffic is top notch as well. An oversized PG, who can handle the ball, guard 2's, running the court with TP just sounds absurdly good on paper. If Spurs get him by some miraculous turn of events, it would be the best off season for them in a long long while...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Anywhere from $30M/4 to $50M/4. It all depends on which Evans GMs believe is the real one.Quote:
Originally Posted by InK
Let's all be realistic. Front Office isn't gonna do shit this off-season.
My ideal offseason would be this -
1) Develop the games of Green and Leonard further - make them better ball handlers, get Green to learn to shoot off the dribble and improve his floaters; design an offensive strategy in the motion offense that shall feature Leonard more and give Leonard a training plan to build his skills upon.
2) Parker & Ginobili getting enough rest to recuperate from their health related struggles fully.
3) Sign Splitter to a contract beginning with $8.5 million per year as a free agent. Develop his non-P&R game bit more and make him work on his positioning on the defensive boards.
4) Sign Manu to a $4.5 * 2 year contract, with the second year partially guaranteed. Manu would need to develop himself just as Jason Kidd did as a more efficient spot up three point shooter. Also better if Manu betters his own game in the system - doing things that Parker does, such as the zipper cut and catch and shoot after coming off screens. Effectively Manu develops his 2G game a little bit more considering his age.
5) Boris Diaw exercising his option and staying with the Spurs. It is very clear that there won't be a better fit for his skill than the Spurs, anywhere in the NBA. Besides, he comes across as a Spurs fan with quite a good knowledge of Spurs history as well.
6) Let Blair, Neal, McGrady walk. Amnesty Bonner.
7) See if the Celtics release Pierce with a buyout. Snag him for the same contract as Manu's if that happens (looks unlikely). If that does not happen, try snagging either Martell Webster or Mike Dunleavy. And then shift attention to a Bigman for the room exception.
8) If the Spurs can't get Pierce, get someone like Millsap on a $8 million a year contract after re-signing both Splitter & Manu, it would be ideal and try getting someone like Casspi for the room exception. If they get Pierce, see if Elton Brand can be signed for the veteran minimum.
Effectively, the Spurs for next season, ideally, for me would be-
Option 1:
Parker, Joseph, De Colo
Green, Ginobili, Mills
Leonard, Pierce/Webster/Dunleavy
Splitter, Diaw, Brand
Duncan, Baynes
Option 2:
Parker, Joseph, De Colo
Green, Ginobili, Mills
Leonard, Casspi
Millsap, Splitter, Diaw
Duncan, Baynes
Two option: option 1. get rid of bonner, ndc... Sign Neal 2m a year, re sign Manu for 2-4m a year or minimum if he agrees, re sign splitter 6m a year, sign Paul millsap 7m a year, sign Martel Webster 3m a year, try to trade Boris with the first round pick for something good. Option 2. Sign and trade tiago with Nando for josh smooth 12m a year contract, keep Manu and Neal, keep t Mac if you want, trade this year pick to memphis for Darrell Arthur trade Boris, bonner, 3 future first round picks to Boston for Paul pierce, draft in second round r Kelly as bonner replacment. Roster: pg Parker/cojo/Neal, sg green/Manu/Neal, sf kawai/pierce/tmac, pf j smooth/Arthur/r Kelly, c Tim/bines
I`d love to see Jason Maxiell or Mo Williams if they stay relatively cheap and Spurs bust out on Evans, Smith and Millsap.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT
Is David Lee a FA at all? Wouldn't mind him.
This is close to what you can expect for this offseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx