Does Anyone Know Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People?

damn koolaide man, you have all the answer to women issue and religous lol

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Originally Posted by redzero

If it's very logical, stop hiding behind "God works in mysterious ways," and give me a logical explanation for God's illogical actions.

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maybe as our creator he knows how we're wired...and allows the suffering to prove a point!...Why is God creating the universe over time instead of snapping his fingers and willing it into existence...I'm not God so all I can do is reason why...but my understanding is that suffering is needed to show that man cannot live without God's guidance and when we try this chaos is a result...if he doesn't allow it people like you will start to question the fairness of his laws even without the existence of pain and suffering...therefore we need to see it for ourselves...and when it has been accomplished to his satisfaction when he decides to end the suffering he will...personally I think it's a brilliant plan but you'd have to put yourself in God's position to understand...I just don't think you have the intellectual capacity to look at this from a 50,000 ft view...it takes real perception to try and grasp it....but that's it...there's your answer

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

And you are arguing over a word- and worse - you are convinced your stance is superior to someone's elses stance over something neither of you has ever seen or even knows what it is.

Very smart!

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I'm not arguing anything. If you want to believe in something you made up, go for it.

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Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man

maybe as our creator he knows how we're wired...and allows the suffering to prove a point!...Why is God creating the universe over time instead of snapping his fingers and willing it into existence...I'm not God so all I can do is reason why...but my understanding is that suffering is needed to show that man cannot live without God's guidance and when we try this chaos is a result...if he doesn't allow it people like you will start to question the fairness of his laws even without the existence of pain and suffering...therefore we need to see it for ourselves...and when it has been accomplished to his satisfaction when he decides to end the suffering he will...personally I think it's a brilliant plan but you'd have to put yourself in God's position to understand...I just don't think you have the intellectual capacity to look at this from a 50,000 ft view...it takes real perception to try and grasp it....but that's it...there's your answer

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Again, you aren't offering an answer. You are offering maybes and what ifs, then you shrug and say that we just aren't capable of understanding God. Pick a lane and stick with it. If God is incomprehensible, don't try to find reasons for his actions. If God is not incomprehensible, stop using the "mysterious ways" copout.

If God is All-Loving, All-Knowing, and All-Powerful, he would be able to get his message out without the suffering and death of billions of people.

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Originally Posted by Blake

I'm not arguing anything. If you want to believe in something you made up, go for it.

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Well, you are acting superior to others who state their beliefs whatever they may be when your BELIEF is no better or superior. On top of that arrogance you insult them and act rudely when responding or posting anything. Sounds like you enjoy being angry and abusive to everyone everyday and never tire of it.

Smart.

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Originally Posted by redzero

Again, you aren't offering an answer. You are offering maybes and what ifs, then you shrug and say that we just aren't capable of understanding God. Pick a lane and stick with it. If God is incomprehensible, don't try to find reasons for his actions. If God is not incomprehensible, stop using the "mysterious ways" copout.

If God is All-Loving, All-Knowing, and All-Powerful, he would be able to get his message out without the suffering and death of billions of people.

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since it's obvious that God is all loving, powerful, and knowing....the better question for you is not If? but rather why...and yes I've clearly and logically answerd your question but because your mad at God you cannot see that it's been answered....:lol

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Originally Posted by Blake

So you're following around a God you made up.

You're so smart!

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Pay attention asswipe, I grew up with God in my home. I never had to follow anything because He was always there. Dude if you got paid for being wrong you could retire.

I don't know who is dumber you or redpunk.

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Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man

since it's obvious that God is all loving, powerful, and knowing....

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Uh...no it isn't. How many more circular arguments will I get from theists in this thread.

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the better question for you is not If? but rather why...and yes I've clearly and logically answerd your question but because your mad at God you cannot see that it's been answered....:lol

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:lol at you using the "you're just mad at God" and "I already answered you with my non-answers" excuses. :lol So predictable. Theists are so intellectually lazy when they defend their stupid beliefs, that it's laughable. In almost every facet of life, they'll be just as critical about unsupported, ridiculous claims as I am towards theism, but when it comes to their God, they throw all critical thinking skills out the window.

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Originally Posted by redzero

Uh...no it isn't. How many more circular arguments will I get from theists in this thread.



:lol at you using the "you're just mad at God" and "I already answered you with my non-answers" excuses. :lol So predictable. Theists are so intellectually lazy when they defend their stupid beliefs, that it's laughable. In almost every facet of life, they'll be just as critical about unsupported, ridiculous claims as I am towards theism, but when it comes to their God, they throw all critical thinking skills out the window.

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you haven't proven a thing...your blinded by your own rage at God....and trying to pass it off as some logical conclusion...my explanation is a solid answer and logical answer...I don't expect and a man who's angrey with God to accept it...but rather your constant hysterical behavior and claims of "winning an argument" when you haven't is a just a typical selling ploy used by atheists...it's called theatrics :lol

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Well, you are acting superior to others who state their beliefs whatever they may be when your BELIEF is no better or superior. On top of that arrogance you insult them and act rudely when responding or posting anything. Sounds like you enjoy being angry and abusive to everyone everyday and never tire of it.

Smart.

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I insult people that pass off bull shit as fact, like you just did in this very thread.

Dumb.

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Originally Posted by Avante

Pay attention asswipe, I grew up with God in my home. I never had to follow anything because He was always there. Dude if you got paid for being wrong you could retire.

I don't know who is dumber you or redpunk.

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That makes no sense at all.

Describe the God you believe in. Where did you get him from?

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Originally Posted by redzero

Uh...no it isn't. How many more circular arguments will I get from theists in this thread.



:lol at you using the "you're just mad at God" and "I already answered you with my non-answers" excuses. :lol So predictable. Theists are so intellectually lazy when they defend their stupid beliefs, that it's laughable. In almost every facet of life, they'll be just as critical about unsupported, ridiculous claims as I am towards theism, but when it comes to their God, they throw all critical thinking skills out the window.

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You do realize you're getting your ass kicked....right?

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Originally Posted by Blake

That makes no sense at all.

Describe the God you believe in. Where did you get him from?

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Let me slow it down for then idiot.

I grew up with God in my family. Ya with me? I saw all those like my family far more happier than those without God in theirs, yep sorta like you. I've noticed that those who do believe in God are far better equipped to handle the trials and tribulations of this life, look at you as a perfect example, no God and totally fucked.

Ya with me?

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Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man

you haven't proven a thing...

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Besides that being untrue, the theist is the only one with the burden of proof here.

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your blinded by your own rage at God....

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An ad hominem because you have nothing else.

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and trying to pass it off as some logical conclusion...

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I am not trying to pass off anything. Based on the attributes of your God and the reality that we live in, the only conclusion is that your God doesn't exist.

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my explanation is a solid answer and logical answer...I don't expect and a man who's angrey with God to accept it...but rather your constant hysterical behavior and claims of "winning an argument" when you haven't is a just a typical selling ploy used by atheists...it's called theatrics :lol

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Yawn. More bullshit. Nothing is logical about your answer. Your God allegedly has the power to get his point across without human ssuffering. Your God allegedly wants there to be no suffering. Therefore, there is no reason for suffering.

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Originally Posted by Avante

Let me slow it down for then idiot.

I grew up with God in my family. Ya with me? I saw all those like my family far more happier than those without God in theirs, yep sorta like you. I've noticed that those who do believe in God are far better equipped to handle the trials and tribulations of this life, look at you as a perfect example, no God and totally fucked.

Ya with me?

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You're not with me.

I'm not sure I can type this in a simpler way:

Describe (talk about the characteristics) of the God (the entity we can't see) you believe in.

Is it Bible God or not?

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Originally Posted by Blake

I insult people that pass off bull shit as fact, like you just did in this very thread.

Dumb.

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Which makes you pretty misguided - since your bullshit is no better than anyone else's bs.

You end up just coming off as an angry asshole who thinks they are somehow superior to others all while revealing what an unhappy idiot you are.

That is idiocy personified.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Which makes you pretty misguided - since your bullshit is no better than anyone else's bs.

You end up just coming off as an angry asshole who thinks they are somehow superior to others all while revealing what an unhappy idiot you are.

That is idiocy personified.

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I'm not spouting bull shit at all, moron. I don't have a belief system other than what I can see in front of me.

If you want to claim there is something more, but you can't prove it, I can call bullshit and there's not a damn thing you can do but take it and cry that I'm being mean.

And the best part is that you can't even live up to your own "enlightened" standards of happy living.

You are easily the most miserable, sensitive, asshurt poster on this board. Avante is a close second.

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Originally Posted by Blake

You're not with me.

I'm not sure I can type this in a simpler way:

Describe (talk about the characteristics) of the God (the entity we can't see) you believe in.

Is it Bible God or not?

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At first He was then as time went on and I started reading more about mythology. I starting seeing things differently. I came away thinking that the God of the Bible was simply Hebrew mythology that for some reason or another we didn't dump off being just more mythology. I can't buy anyone kicking ass on a 1000 soldiers with just the jawbone of an ass or a cannon for that matter, what army was that the stupid forces? Nobody thought...let's rush him? What no spears? What were numbers 998 999 and 1000 thinking looking at a pile of 997 dead bodies, what...."I got this"...haha!!!!!

There is something out there responsible for all this, what nobody knows.

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Originally Posted by Blake

I'm not spouting bull shit at all, moron. I don't have a belief system other than what I can see in front of me.

Unfortunately for all of us - what you can see in front of you is nothing. Why? Because there are layers and layers of conditioning and programming which have rendered you blind. So , how fitting that you think this "reality" you can see in front of you- is actually blindness.

If you want to claim there is something more, but you can't prove it, I can call bullshit and there's not a damn thing you can do but take it and cry that I'm being mean.

I haven't claimed anything but self evident truths.

And the best part is that you can't even live up to your own "enlightened" standards of happy living.


Since I didn't ever claim anything - there is nothing to live up to - or down to.

You are easily the most miserable, sensitive, asshurt poster on this board. Avante is a close second.

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Well, funny how you just described yourself and your little e-gang who do nothing but ankle-bite and chase people around just because you are miserable pricks.


Not to mention a certified CUCK!


:lmao

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Well, funny how you just described yourself and your little e-gang who do nothing but ankle-bite and chase people around just because you are miserable pricks.


Not to mention a certified CUCK!


:lmao

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Liar.

Your claim is that we're asleep. You can't prove it.

You're provably stupid.

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Originally Posted by Blake

Liar.

Your claim is that we're asleep. You can't prove it.

You're provably stupid.

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Why would I have to prove what is self-evident?

I don't. The first part of waking up is realizing and admitting that you are asleep. Unfortunately you are like the man in the dream who has no idea it is a dream - he thinks it is reality.

Someday - you might be forced to wake up - maybe by suffering - maybe by tragedy - then you might make an effort to awaken from your slumber - only then may you begin to see how asleep you've been. Most people never wake up and then die without ever waking. This is the tragedy of humans. This is the questions you should be grappling with -

Not this idiocy of "who is god?" "what is god?" "prove your god exists"


I've just given you nothing but airtight impenetrable truth - and you will not even sense it or allow it to reach you - you will see what is in front of you - which is conditioned blindness and you will respond to that conditioning and refuse to allow truth to enter your layers upon layers of blindness.

Tragedy.

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Originally Posted by Avante

There is something out there responsible for all this, what nobody knows.

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So you follow something you know nothing about.

....but you pity others...

Smart!

a priori has been debunked for a long long time. Go read some Hume and get back to me. this kindergarten level of epistemology is just sad.

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Why would I have to prove what is self-evident?

I don't. The first part of waking up is realizing and admitting that you are asleep. Unfortunately you are like the man in the dream who has no idea it is a dream - he thinks it is reality.

Someday - you might be forced to wake up - maybe by suffering - maybe by tragedy - then you might make an effort to awaken from your slumber - only then may you begin to see how asleep you've been. Most people never wake up and then die without ever waking. This is the tragedy of humans. This is the questions you should be grappling with -

Not this idiocy of "who is god?" "what is god?" "prove your god exists"


I've just given you nothing but airtight impenetrable truth - and you will not even sense it or allow it to reach you - you will see what is in front of you - which is conditioned blindness and you will respond to that conditioning and refuse to allow truth to enter your layers upon layers of blindness.

Tragedy.

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If it was self evident, it would be evident to more people than just you.

You are the only one here spouting this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Blake

If it was self evident, it would be evident to more people than just you.

You are the only one here spouting this nonsense.

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just ponder on it


it might reach you someday

bad things hone their personalities, give them fortitude and make the good people even better. Humans and other living things are all going towards the one same destination, so it doesn't matter how many good things or bad happen to you in your life time. the ending of every life will be a tragedy

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

just ponder on it


it might reach you someday

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you're a condescending, unenlightened idiot that will soon reduce himself to name calling.

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Originally Posted by Blake

So you follow something you know nothing about.

....but you pity others...

Smart!

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Yep, just one of the billions and billions and billions who did the exact same thing.


You know what % of American are atheists?

Here ya go midget, this is how many Americans agree with your dumb ass.

Short answer: 3%-5% of Americans are atheists.

Hey Avante, why did God allow maalox to destroy you in the other thread?

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

Why would I have to prove what is self-evident?

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No one ever had to prove you are the angriest, e-grudgiest poster on SpursTalk.

why is it good healthy people get struck down on some illness, even the common sickness they are very slow to recover from

while clowns who have abuse their body with hard drugs and shit, whether fkn junkies and shit, seems like their system can take any form of punishment and immune to common sickness....

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Originally Posted by Avante

Yep, just one of the billions and billions and billions who did the exact same thing.


You know what % of American are atheists?

Here ya go midget, this is how many Americans agree with your dumb ass.

Short answer: 3%-5% of Americans are atheists.

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yeah, again, which God do you believe in?

You made it clear it's not Bible God, so describe every detail of the spirit that you believe guides you. Thanks.

To test the believer.

:lmao I'm glad I've moved on from these threads...don't miss them at all. redzero, save yourself while you can and just disregard :lol. I see that Blake still is making appearances.

Are you related to ALVAREZ5?

its called trial and tribulation :) even the lamb of god went thru tough times. god bless :D

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Originally Posted by cute_spursfan

its called trial and tribulation :) even the lamb of god went thru tough times. god bless :D

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Bible God loves himself some pain and suffering