What should the Spurs do with Manu this offseason?

Most of you already know how much I am disgusted at Manu for costing Tim Duncan his 5th ring. IMO the perfect scenario would be option B which is to sign all the necessary FA's or missing pieces and then Manu can take whatever cap space remains.

I'm probably crucifying him by wishing that he would retire but TBH the FO should not allow Manu to dictate how much money he wants. FO should have a talk with him and ask him to do a similar sacrifice like the one that Tim Duncan did to sign Richard Jefferson.

If Manu rather be with his family and he actually enjoys his life off the court more than on the court, then I think he should consider retirement. The Spurs chances of winning another title next season will depend a lot on Manu's type of contract.

To all of you Manu fan boys, if Manu is the competitor that you'll claim him to be, if he cares about winning, if he is as loyal as Tim Duncan has been to the team, then Manu shouldn't have a problem making the necessary sacrifices to help the Spurs win a 5th championship.

Sign and trade to the Heat to get payback.

Manu is a UFA, IIRC... the Spurs don't have any rights to 'renounce'...

I trust the FO knows what how to negotiate with free agents at this point :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu is a UFA, IIRC... the Spurs don't have any rights to 'renounce'...

I trust the FO knows what how to negotiate with free agents at this point :rolleyes

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Perhaps. Maybe I'm just traumatized of reading all these Manu fan boy comments.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Perhaps. Maybe I'm just traumatized of reading all these Manu fan boy comments.

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Chill... AFAIK, the FO doesn't post here...

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Perhaps. Maybe I'm just traumatized of reading all these Manu fan boy comments.

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Odd seeing how I read more hate mostly from you about Manu then I read of praise from his fanboys. Anyway I pick vets minimum, didn't really have the one choice I liked so I guess that one is the closest.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu is a UFA, IIRC... the Spurs don't have any rights to 'renounce'...

I trust the FO knows what how to negotiate with free agents at this point :rolleyes

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they can technically renounce his bird rights, which would remove the cap hold, not that his bird rights are really going to come into play with the contract he is expected to sign

it would also mean we can't negotiate/sign him until free agency begins. we could theoretically extend him today

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Most of you already know how much I am disgusted at Manu for costing Tim Duncan his 5th ring. IMO the perfect scenario would be option B which is to sign all the necessary FA's or missing pieces and then Manu can take whatever cap space remains.

I'm probably crucifying him by wishing that he would retire but TBH the FO should not allow Manu to dictate how much money he wants. FO should have a talk with him and ask him to do a similar sacrifice like the one that Tim Duncan did to sign Richard Jefferson.

If Manu rather be with his family and he actually enjoys his life off the court more than on the court, then I think he should consider retirement. The Spurs chances of winning another title next season will depend a lot on Manu's type of contract.

To all of you Manu fan boys, if Manu is the competitor that you'll claim him to be, if he cares about winning, if he is as loyal as Tim Duncan has been to the team, then Manu shouldn't have a problem making the necessary sacrifices to help the Spurs win a 5th championship.

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Lol another fail thread created by one of most adamant manu haters - you aren't deceiving anyone my child.

and that signature i dont think its warranted IMO

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

they can technically renounce his bird rights, which would remove the cap hold, not that his bird rights are really going to come into play with the contract he is expected to sign

it would also mean we can't negotiate/sign him until free agency begins. we could theoretically extend him today

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You're right, I pretty much erased bird rights off my mind in this case, since it's basically a formality, considering the length of the contract that makes sense and the fact that raises likely don't matter in this case.

BTW, I'm pretty sure option B is what's going to happen if Manu doesn't retire...

We are holding plenty of cards to improve this team. I doubt Manu or the Spurs will want his contract to prevent a worthwhile FA acquisition. The Spurs will sort through those expertly and find the best/most realistic prospects.

While I could have strangled Manu many times myself, only having Green (and possibly Neal) at SG does not appeal to me much either.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Perhaps. Maybe I'm just traumatized of reading all these Manu fan boy comments.

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I actually find it hilarious seeing people like N0 LyF3 ScRuB, dallasmaverickslose, and superjames1992 constantly reek of butthurt because people are criticizing their messiah :rollin

I've never seen someone get as angry and insecure as N0 LyF3 ScRuB after people started (rightfully) criticizing Manu :lol

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Originally Posted by jARS mEsH sEt

I actually find it hilarious seeing people like N0 LyF3 ScRuB, dallasmaverickslose, and superjames1992 constantly reek of butthurt because people are criticizing their messiah :rollin

I've never seen someone get as angry and insecure as N0 LyF3 ScRuB after people started (rightfully) criticizing Manu :lol

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Yeah Manu sucks! Worst thing to ever happen to this organization!

The OP is a total dumbass. I'm not worshipping Manu's stats for the finals. He was appalling a majority of the time. I get that. That doesn't mean he was trying to make us lose on purpose. He played his heart out. He wanted that finals win as much as anyone.

The pathetic fact of the matter is that the dumb posters on here drinking the Manu haterade thinks its ok to call him names and talk crap about him. All I can say is these posters are ungrateful bastards and should become cHeat fans.

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Originally Posted by SpurOutofTownFan

Lol another fail thread created by one of most adamant manu haters - you aren't deceiving anyone my child.

and that signature i dont think its warranted IMO

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Damn that little cat is always riding manus sack, would hate to see what he or she would do if they met him http://sultr.com/wp-content/uploads/...court-nuts.gif

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Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose

The OP is a total dumbass. I'm not worshipping Manu's stats for the finals. He was appalling a majority of the time. I get that. That doesn't mean he was trying to make us lose on purpose. He played his heart out. He wanted that finals win as much as anyone.

The pathetic fact of the matter is that the dumb posters on here drinking the Manu haterade thinks its ok to call him names and talk crap about him. All I can say is these posters are ungrateful bastards and should become cHeat fans.

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Not my fault that Manu is your favorite player. Trust me, there are A LOT of people that are upset at Manu just happens to be that most of the people that patrol these forums are Manu fan boys. I appreciate everything that Manu's done for the Spurs but he deserves all the criticism that he's getting. He and Pop pretty much single-handedly cost Timmy's #5. I don't think the Manu hatred will stop throughout the offseason so just get used to it.

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Originally Posted by texmich

Damn that little cat is always riding manus sack, would hate to see what he or she would do if they met him

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Trust me, you don't wanna know.

Re sign him FOR ALOT less obviously! Play him in a different role next year. That is what they should try to do.

Give the guy a contract..and a clipboard.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Not my fault that Manu is your favorite player. Trust me, there are A LOT of people that are upset at Manu just happens to be that most of the people that patrol these forums are Manu fan boys. I appreciate everything that Manu's done for the Spurs but he deserves all the criticism that he's getting. He and Pop pretty much single-handedly cost Timmy's #5. I don't think the Manu hatred will stop throughout the offseason so just get used to it.Trust me, you don't wanna know.

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Not criticism. People on this site are HARASSING Manu. And that's why I have to come up and bat for him. This irrational hate & anger is going over the top.

And like I said, you try to ignore that Manu played with heart and gave it his all. He wanted that ring as much as anyone. How the hell can you hate this guy, knowing this?

They should re-sign him for a year or two and give it another go next season.

2yr/10mil, 2nd year player option.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu is a UFA, IIRC... the Spurs don't have any rights to 'renounce'...

I trust the FO knows what how to negotiate with free agents at this point :rolleyes

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Maybe he meant the cap hold from his Bird rights, so that we could get under the cap?

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Originally Posted by chapnis

2yr/10mil, 2nd year player option.

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This seems pretty fair, IMO.

I'm looking at the poll results so far and the one good conclusion that I can make is that roughly 75% of the voters are on the right ship which is that Manu should take less money and play a smaller role on the team.

Another thing this poll proves is that the amount of Manu fan boys, 25%, is much smaller than what I thought. I knew my theory was correct that most of the people who patrol these forums happen to be Manu worshippers. To those that think Manu deserves to be paid 5-10 million for 2 years, please stop being so generous to a guy that cost us a championship. All of you Manu lovers, get real. Stop being delusional. Will reality ever hit you'll? 75 % > 25 %

Manu deserves all the critique that most of us true fans are giving him.

Bottom line: If Tim can play for $10 million while being all NBA, Manu can play for $2.7.

While I understand why some of the less mature posters are piling on about Manu's Finals play, I don't see a need for it. I guess we all cope in different ways. Personally I felt a lot more disappointment than anger towards Manu. Disbelief I would add at some of the passes, but it's over let it go. It is entirely possible he has some decent ball left in him for the next couple of years.

LOL, after years of "He's Manu Ginobli," "you gotta take the good with the bad," and "Manu plays only one way," baby-talk, all of a sudden Manu's going do a 180 and magically transform his busted, broken-down game into a new role. What exactly is that role? For that matter, what role at all can he CONSISTENTLY fill at this point?
He's not Ray Allen...or even Shawn Battier at this point.

The rationale was that we can live with Manu's fragility, increasingly erratic play and declining skills because "He's Manu Ginobli." In other words, a stud that you can count on in the clutch, when it matters.
2013 finals say hello. He cannot be counted on. You definitely do not want him on the court in crunch time. He cannot handle the pressure. He cannot deliver.
And he's only going to get worse.