Spurs may have promise with Erick Green at #28

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Good God. This has smokescreen written all over it. What good would it do to draft yet another backup PG when Pop can't even develop one from the bunch he has?

I trust the Spurs are focusing more on adding more size in the frontcourt.

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This guy looks much better than the scrubs the spurs have for backup pg.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

According to nbadraft.net



Player page: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Erick-Green-16580/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WhzwLXF7fVA

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Highly doubtful that the Spurs draft him, virtually no other sources have him any where on the Spurs radar. Tim Hardaway Jr. seems to be the favorite, at least in the eyes of many experts.

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Originally Posted by rascal

This guy looks much better than the scrubs the spurs have for backup pg.

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Maybe, but the Spurs have more pressing needs than the collective assortment of smalls at backup PG. The very thought of even wasting a pick to add yet another one is assinine.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Maybe, but the Spurs have more pressing needs than the collective assortment of smalls at backup PG. The very thought of even wasting a pick to add yet another one is assinine.

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Nope. The spurs need two things, a good backup pg and another big. The spurs badly need a reliable pg. They lost the series because Pop did not trust the backup pgs on the roster and let Manu piss game 6 away and the 4th quarter of game 7 with turnovers.


The Spurs also need a big but drafting that late you are not going to find one. Better to target the other need in the draft.

The Spurs need to stop throwing picks away with undersized guards.

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Originally Posted by cd021

Highly doubtful that the Spurs draft him, virtually no other sources have him any where on the Spurs radar. Tim Hardaway Jr. seems to be the favorite, at least in the eyes of many experts.

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Doubt Hardaway will be there when the Spurs draft. All the mock drafts I have seen he is gone before. What site did you see Hardaway going to the Spurs?

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Originally Posted by rascal

Nope. The spurs need two things, a good backup pg and another big. The spurs badly need a reliable pg. They lost the series because Pop did not trust the backup pgs on the roster and let Manu piss game 6 away and the 4th quarter of game 7 with turnovers.


The Spurs also need a big but drafting that late you are not going to find one. Better to target the other need in the draft.

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I think TMac could be the solution at backup PG. They need someone to make the passes TP can't.

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Originally Posted by therealtruth

I think TMac could be the solution at backup PG. They need someone to make the passes TP can't.

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TMac is finished and was never a pg. You think manu was bad with turnovers, just watch old TMac as a backup pg.

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Originally Posted by rascal

Doubt Hardaway will be there when the Spurs draft. All the mock drafts I have seen he is gone before. What site did you see Hardaway going to the Spurs?

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/mock-draft

I think I saw him at 28 on Bleacher report or SB nation a few days ago. Most of the sites i've seen has him in the 25-35 range. I also maybe confusing him with Rice Jr.

On the other hand Hardaway is listed as 20th to Chicago on Draft Express but doesn't appear in the1st round on both of CBS's last two mocks its insane how wildly things differ from one mock to another. On one mock I saw Golbert go at number 11 and another I saw OKC take him at #29.

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Originally Posted by rascal

TMac is finished and was never a pg. You think manu was bad with turnovers, just watch old TMac as a backup pg.

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He played PG well his last 3 seasons. He is a natural passer. He'd be better in spot minutes for Kawhi. 12 mpg while Kawhi plays 36.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Maybe, but the Spurs have more pressing needs than the collective assortment of smalls at backup PG. The very thought of even wasting a pick to add yet another one is assinine.

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We hav the oddest assortment of guards in the NBA.

Neal, Mills and De Colo are 2 guards or at best combo guards. Playing them at PG exclusively isn't a great idea.
Joseph is a true PG but has only played consistently in route to a finals appearence. He's either on the bench or lighting it up in the D league.

Mills return is odd and only adds to uncertainty of our backup pg/sg situations. De Colo shows promise, Joseph is entering his 3rd season which means he should be in line for consistent minutes. Neal is too valuable to just let walk but is flawed. He can score in bunches but cant play D.


Drafting a PG isn't ideal. Unless they are bigger guard, who can shoot and attack off the dribble.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

If true (I'm skeptical that there's a promise, but wouldn't be surprised if they do in fact take him, as he'd not only fill a need, but he sounds like Spurs material), I like it, for a myriad of reasons . . .

- Neal is probably gone, because I doubt they want to tie up $2-3M in him, but also, as we know, he can't play PG and playing him next to Ginobili forces Ginobili to spend too much time at SF.

- They'll need to replace his scoring off the bench; specifically, they need their backup PG to be a scorer and in theory, Green is an ideal fit next to Ginobili, as he can get his own shot, yet is also a good enough shooter to function as a spot up threat.

- Despite his lack of strength, he's long enough that, in tandem with Joseph, they should be able to get away with either defending SG's (Hill used to do it, Ellis has done it for years, Bradley currently does, etc.), when Ginobili inevitably get's his minimum 2 injuries . . . and this is getting way ahead obviously, but if he and Joseph establish themselves as rotation players, they could eventually work in tandem as the backup guards behind Parker/Green, when Ginobili retires in probably 2 years.

- Backup SF may look like a bigger hole on paper, but they at least have three quality wing players. Besides, if they like Casspi better than Bullock, Snell, etc. (neither of whom are true SF's, nor are the other candidates projected to be in that range), then it makes no sense to pick one of them.

- Some will inevitably quibble with not taking a player they can stash and eating up cap space, but all this would do is probably pave the way for them to either release De Colo to return to Europe or to trade him and he's slightly more expensive than the 28th pick will be.

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They will at least throw a qualifying offer at him its only $1.2 million. a 3 year $10 million deal would be good. But that who throw De Colo, and Josephs future in some doubt.

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Originally Posted by cd021

They will at least throw a qualifying offer at him its only $1.2 million. a 3 year $10 million deal would be good. But that who throw De Colo, and Josephs future in some doubt.

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I can understand the Spurs throwing that offer because he's been there but I'll be okay if he walks away. His defensive skill is lacking and this is an opportunity to get a better defensive SG

We have good PG's already. We need BIGS!

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

Reminds me of George Hill. I'd actually approve of us selecting him only if it meant we'd dump Joseph or else it'd be a redundant pick per par.

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Hill was a good defender. Not sure about his defensive ability.

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Originally Posted by rascal

Nope. The spurs need two things, a good backup pg and another big. The spurs badly need a reliable pg. They lost the series because Pop did not trust the backup pgs on the roster and let Manu piss game 6 away and the 4th quarter of game 7 with turnovers.


The Spurs also need a big but drafting that late you are not going to find one. Better to target the other need in the draft.

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Corey Joseph looked to be the most reliable of the bunch, yet he regressed because Pop lost faith in his ability to run the offense. Hell, the guy is just in his second year and has to be given the chance to run the team. Therefore, the Spurs can ill afford to spend yet another first round pick on another backup PG. The rotation big is clearly the bigger priority.

draft cheat sheet courtesy of the guys at the wagesofwins (link below)...prospects are grouped into 3 catergories

Great - picked by both of their statistical models (surefire prospects)
Good - picked by one of their statistical models (worth taking a gamble on)
Bust - self explanatory

http://wagesofwins.com/2013/06/27/20...e-cheat-sheet/

Highlights Erick Green as a potentially succesful prospect

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Originally Posted by Juggity

Weird shot release

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Similar to Westbrook.

I've been watching some of his game replays on EPSN online and this kid is damn good. He's not some 25 year old, no passing inaccurate midget gunner like McClinton was. This guy has something legit to his game.

If the Spurs can get him, and develop his left hand and his finishing around the basket, I could see him being moved in another 'Kawhi-type-deal' in about 3 years.

For a player like him, on a bad team and with a green light, he's not selfish at all. The numbers prove it, but this guy does have point skills. He does pass, pretty well. Looks closer to a point guard than Hill did.

He's smaller than Neal, and about as bad a defender, and weaker, but I would love to see him drafted.

Now I don't even think he'll be available, but it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by objective

I've been watching some of his game replays on EPSN online and this kid is damn good. He's not some 25 year old, no passing inaccurate midget gunner like McClinton was. This guy has something legit to his game.

If the Spurs can get him, and develop his left hand and his finishing around the basket, I could see him being moved in another 'Kawhi-type-deal' in about 3 years.

For a player like him, on a bad team and with a green light, he's not selfish at all. The numbers prove it, but this guy does have point skills. He does pass, pretty well. Looks closer to a point guard than Hill did.

He's smaller than Neal, and about as bad a defender, and weaker, but I would love to see him drafted.

Now I don't even think he'll be available, but it is what it is.

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Almost every mock draft I've seen has him going in the 2nd round so why do you think he won't be available? I'm about 90% sure he will be available when we pick. Ans I'd much rather draft an athletic wing who can shoot the 3 then another backup PG project.

Another shit pick

I say that as a pessimist. One of the hoopsworld guys has Green going to the Pacers in his final mock, and it makes sense, the Pacers had Green in for a 'secret' workout, or rather one that was unpublicized.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Ans I'd much rather draft an athletic wing who can shoot the 3 then another backup PG project.

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I'm about as sick of undersized combo guards as the next guy, and I'd love some athleticism on the wings too. That's a big reason I'd like to see Hanga brought over.

But I think Green can be a dynamic bench scorer who can fill in for Parker and push the ball, and run an offense instead of Manu better than Neal was doing. Manu can't be as effective as he used to be when acting the primary ball-handler when Parker is out or not playing well, and I could see this kid helping there if he's coached up enough.

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Originally Posted by rascal

George Hill replacement. I can see the spurs going this way. The Spurs need another player who can handle the ball and take it to the basket. They need to stop using Manu as a pg and scale back his minutes overall and this pick will solve that.

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G.Hill comparison on point, he himself said so.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/dr...en-profile.nba

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Originally Posted by FlashZo

G.Hill comparison on point, he himself said so.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/dr...en-profile.nba

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I don't want another guard with inconsistent play.