Sir, heart isn't predicated solely on where your born!! There are plenty American cowards!!
Coward and soft arent necessarily the same thing. You can be brave as you want, but if you get pushed around all the time your still soft.
And I didnt say they didnt have heart. I said they were soft.
06-27-2013
3 Legged Dog
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Thank god it wasn't Franklin!
Yes. Thank God we didn't take a guy with freakish athleticism
06-27-2013
3 Legged Dog
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by Interrohater
How can people be saying wasted pick at 28? Who did you pick as helping the Spurs next year?
Allen Crabbe or Tony Mitchell. Labia Jean-Charles will NEVER help this team.
06-27-2013
99 Problems
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
Lots of upside, all being well. Great 'Hoop Summit'.
06-27-2013
Interrohater
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
What Spurfan doesn't understand, some of us at least, is that the Spurs try to draft players EARLY. They try and get guys that would be picked in the teens or higher after a couple more years of development. This is the reason that analysts are always crediting the Spurs with draft-day "steals" when the player makes it over and begins to actually contribute. One reason the Spurs have been so successful is the ability to have patience.
06-27-2013
wildchild
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by ManuManu
Chad Ford likes the pick...
Livio Jean-Charles was the breakout star at the Nike Hoop Summit. Jean-Charles exploded with 27 points, 13 rebounds, two steals and two blocks. He clearly was the MVP of the World Team, doing the little things that impresses scouts all week. He's long, athletic, has a nose for the ball and can score both inside and on the midrange jumper. Spurs think he'll spend another year in France before he comes to the NBA. A nice pick here.
Agree. Jean-Charles and Wiggins lead the World Team in Nike Hoop Summit. I really like the guy.
06-27-2013
Prime Time
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
With all these SF prospects Spurs have interest in, What are the odds Kawhi becomes our SG once the big 3 retire? Does anyone think he can actually improve his handles/shooting to the point where this is possible? Thoughts?
06-27-2013
ace3g
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN Buford said Spurs had Livio Jean-Charles rated as one of the top 20 players in the draft.
06-27-2013
TheGoldStandard
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by Prime Time
With all these SF prospects Spurs have interest in, What are the odds Kawhi becomes our SG once the big 3 retire? Does anyone think he can actually improve his handles/shooting to the point where this is possible? Thoughts?
Considering how hard he works, yes. I suspect he'll be working on all of that over the summer.
06-27-2013
BackHome
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by wildchild
Agree. Jean-Charles and Wiggins lead the World Team in Nike Hoop Summit. I really like the guy.
Hell and they saying Wiggins is going to go number 1 next year and is as good as Durant from OK.
06-28-2013
playblair
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by ManuManu
Chad Ford likes the pick...
Livio Jean-Charles was the breakout star at the Nike Hoop Summit. Jean-Charles exploded with 27 points, 13 rebounds, two steals and two blocks. He clearly was the MVP of the World Team, doing the little things that impresses scouts all week. He's long, athletic, has a nose for the ball and can score both inside and on the midrange jumper. Spurs think he'll spend another year in France before he comes to the NBA. A nice pick here.
06-28-2013
BatManu20
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by elemento
Is he a SF or a PF? I just hope he is not another tweener, too slow to play the 3 and too weak/small to play the 4.
That's exactly what he is right now. Not skilled enough to play the 3 and way too weak to play the 4. He needs to really improve his perimeter game cause he's a 3 in the NBA. Dribbling and shooting need to improve drastically.
06-28-2013
tesseractive
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by BatManu20
That's exactly what he is right now. Not skilled enough to play the 3 and way too weak to play the 4. He needs to really improve his perimeter game cause he's a 3 in the NBA. Dribbling and shooting need to improve drastically.
Who says he's an NBA 3? 19 year olds still have plenty of muscle mass to add, so he has a great chance to be an athletic 4.
06-28-2013
Tim_5rings
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
He left his country (french Guyana) at the age of 14 years (and his family) to play basketball at INSEP where Tony, Boris, Evan Fournier ... learned the game
He plays SF/PF, good handling, rebounds, defense, high IQ basketball
He needs to improve his mid range shoot
For 2 years he is pro at villleurbanne (Lyon) the club chairs Tony Parker
It's a strong team in the French league so he plays a few minutes but gives everything, eager to learn, big work ethic, calm and balanced when he makes a mistake, it's never the same twice
I learned that the scout has spent 3 days "Lyon" to see it and test it (so they really believe in him)
He's a player who I think can have fast and consistent growth as Nicolas Batum
Tony the owner can influence this growth with more minutes, more responsibility in a good way
He did great Nike Hoop Summit, great Eurocamp
But he didn't made any workout for any other NBA team
He was exclusively to Spurs
06-28-2013
ace3g
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
He is playing with the U20 team today:
28 Juin ą 19H00 : Turquie - France
29 Juin ą 16H45 : France - Serbie
30 Juin ą 14H30 : Sučde - France
If you click on the tab called "MACLAR" that is at the top right, you can access to boxscores of previous games.
For the full stats, click on the "ISTATIK" tab.
06-30-2013
rascal
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
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Originally Posted by ace3g
I believe he scored 20 points but haven't found a good box score for one of the last 2 games
Those games don't mean anything. McGrady can drop 30 easily in that game.
06-30-2013
picnroll
Re: Spurs Draft: Livio Jean-Charles
After watching the Nike Hoops game a couple of times I really like this pick. Jean-Charles shows:
1. Great anticipation around the basket on offense, reading the ball, getting position for the rebound or put back.
2. Very quick jumper
3. A very nice touch around the basket, put backs and nice quick low post moves. Not stiff in his shooting like say Splitter or Mahinmi.
4. Quick on defense, was staying in front of players, even in practice stayed in front of Wiggins who was trying to beat him in the half-court and took out the German PG Schroeder, blocking a fast break attempt, giving a stronger Randle a difficult time.
5. Very good low post defender, on and off the ball, contested shots well.
6. Good decisicion maker, made a few nice passes including a back door cut to the Russian Karasev.
7. Ball handling in full-court was fine for a guy his size.
He was the best big on the international squad. Small sample size but his agility is not in question.Given his state of development I think the Spurs may have another gem. Just get him some time with Chip.