If we could just sign a SF for the bench that can come in and defend only, i'd be satisfied.
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If we could just sign a SF for the bench that can come in and defend only, i'd be satisfied.
And I'm not saying that Spurs won't be able to bounce back this year. It's just that is going to be very tough to start this season for Spurs while being fresh both mentally and physically and being as hungry as ever to win the title. I have no clue if they will be ever to do that but it's gonna be tough and adding an impact player would certainly have helped to give back Spurs a new impulse.
The last time the Spurs added an impact player, they finished with the worst regular season record in the Duncan era. Just sayin'.
Not really. They won 20 game sin a row and makes it to the WCF after a bunch of disappointing postseasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
Just imagine if they had gotten both Kirilenko and Oden.
But neither were coming here.
Was referring to RJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Yup tough offseason but rarely do we get that wow factor from Sa .guess all we have is another 50+ win season and atleast a west semifinal run to look forward to
Impact playerQuote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
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Originally Posted by Bruno
Yeah disappointing off-season indeed, the Spurs had a chance to rise head and shoulders above every team in the west. In the end, I still think the Spurs have the least flaws out of every western conference contender. Time will tell though a lot will change between now and April.
Every single person around the NBA thought he is an impact player and he is the missing piece to get back to contending.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrhawk
I know and I was referring to Diaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
When I say "impact player", I'm not necessarily talking about a player at an allstar level. For example, a good role player like Trevor Ariza would have been fine by me.
And the lesson of the RJ failure isn't that a high caliber player can't make Spurs better, it's that you had to look on how he will fit with the team skill-wise, mentally-wise and chemistry-wise.
I've said it before, but the Spurs' biggest free-agent acquisition of the past eight or so years is Danny Green. Their biggest trade acquisition is Kawhi Leonard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
I think the team could have added a really good player by being smarter with its finances, but I don't see the point of change for change's sake. The two most gut-wrench post-season exits before this year (.4 and Ginobili's foul) were both followed up by titles the next season. The Big Three, I think are mentally tough enough to bounce back again, and Green, Leonard, Joseph and Splitter should all be stronger for it.
And 99.9% of ST said the same thing. In the end, things didn't get better for the Spurs on the court until they unloaded the guy that helped them win the summer of 2009.Quote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
The same could be said of Kirilenko. If the Spurs had created enough cap space, and offered enough years, they may have been able to get him. That they were only interested in him at a certain price is evidence, to me, that they learned the lessons of the RJ failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
And a Diaw type acquisition is still possible. The discussion here was about stretching resources to get a higher priced player.
You act like the Kawhi Leonard trade wasn't a big deal...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
It's not about change for the sake of change it's about moral and fresh blood.
They are tired, old and demoralized, about to start a long season that will probably see Duncan and Manu get quite a bit worse, maybe even Parker...
Imo they're thinking that it can't go any better with what they have currently, 7th, 6th and 5th seed in the way to the Finals? Can you say that the red sea parted itself? Healthy Manu and injured Westbrook, was it real life??
They need some reason to feel good about their chances I agree with Bruno 100%.
I for one know I'm not renewing my league pass next season if the roster stays the way it is, I know how that movie gonna end already...
Bruno is right. They've given the players (particularly Duncan and Parker, who put them about as close to a championship as you can be without winning it and who are both significantly underpaid) nothing to get excited about or rejuvenated with and anyone who thinks some big move is coming by the deadline obviously hasn't paid attention to how this franchise operates over the years. They won't actually go and make a move for the sake of bettering themselves, they'll only do so if catastrophe strikes.
And if they weren't going to get an actual name, like Kirilenko or Millsap, there were still numerous SF's/combo forwards (Wright, Clark, Brewer, World Peace, Dunleavy, Miller, Delfino, Copeland, Johnson, Casspi) they easily could have afforded, yet we never heard of them being interested in one.
:lol At those clinging to the Jefferson fiasco as some sort of cautionary tale. I guess because that didn't work out, they should never take a risk again. I guess they'd be better of hoping everything falls into place . . . and if by some miracle it does, I'm sure they'll find a way to throw it away again.
Well, I don't see why Kirilenko would have been cheaper through a S&T than through a cap space signing. The reason why they went after him through a S&T and didn't have as fallback plan to sign him with cap space will remain a mystery to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
Fuck it, but this is true. I will never forgive Pop for game 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
You lost me. There were reports after he signed in Brooklyn that he turned down 3/21 from Minnesota. I assume that his asking price at the outset of free agency was for 4 years at a higher average salary. To me, it makes sense that the Spurs would lose interest in a straight FA signing if that was his asking price. As time passed and it became obvious that there was no team that would met his price, they revisited an acquisition via S&T. Whether that process broke down because Minnesota didn't want to deal or because Kirilenko wasn't interested in the contract offered by the Spurs, or both, we'll never know. We only know that a deal wasn't reached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
And regarding the lack of a true back up SF, there are two specific questions I wonder:
1) Why Spurs spend most of their MLE on a SG like Belinelli instead of a SF?
2) Why Spurs haven't signed a SF at the min for depth purpose.
For 1), the two most obvious answers would be that Spurs didn't like the available FA at the SF spot or that they rather have Ginobili playing SF than SG. Given that they agree to a deal with Belinelli very soon in the off-season (July 4th), I would think that it's more because that wnat to play Ginobili at the SF spot.
For 2), it could be because Spurs are still waiting for a specific player or because when there will have minutes available at SG/SF, their intent is to give them at De Colo. Spurs were ready to fill their 15th roster spot on Oden so my guess is that want to keep some minutes to De Colo by not adding another SF.
Honestly I just don't see lack of excitement being a problem for this team. Maybe - maybe - there would be a bit of a hangover for the first couple of weeks of the season that a new and exciting player would help avoid. But I don't think this would be the type of thing that would last very far into the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
The mystery to me is that either:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
- Spurs, a damn smart organization, didn't plan that the market for Kirilenko was small and that he maybe could be had for less money few days later.
- They knew that his market value could drop and they decided not to wait and signs a marginal player like Pendergaph.