Yahoo: News on on a potential Tiago Splitter offersheet

San Antonio Spurs restricted free-agent center Tiago Splitter could command an offer sheet that averages $8.5 million to $9 million annually, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Portland Trail Blazers are expected to be a suitor for Splitter, league sources said. The Utah Jazz and Atlanta Hawks have salary-cap space, a need for a young center and general managers – Dennis Lindsey and Danny Ferry, respectively – who were Spurs front-office executives when Splitter came into the organization.

The Spurs will be in a strong position to match an offer sheet and keep Splitter, because they'll free of Stephen Jackson's $10 million salary and expect to re-sign Manu Ginobili at a lesser salary than the $14.1 million he made this season.
The baseline for a Splitter offer sheet will likely be the three-year, $25 million deal that Houston awarded center Omer Asik in free agency a year ago, sources told Y! Sports.

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Holy $&@%

Don't resign. Too much. Spurs should not forget too soon that they got a bit of help along the way in getting to the Finals. Splitter is not worth 9 million against the elite teams. Let him walk.

Pass. $8.5 million per is too much for a guy who kills you against elite teams imo. You know the Spurs are matching any offer though. For better or worse.

3/25 is fair for Splitter.

3/25? Yeesh.

You know the Spurs are gonna match at least 10 million.

Spur fan expecting a good big to sign for the MLE per par.

:greedy

Too much for a guy that couldn't even find the floor in the Finals. Sorry Tiago. I liked how you ran the pick-and-roll and your solid defense, but see ya man.

Most people were expecting it to be in the $8m range which this would be. I think that's a fair deal for Tiago.

I like Tiago Splitter... But damn.

Boy. Spurs are going to be paying for Splitter a long time. In more ways than one.

I don't know, he is a good defensive big and a nice pick and roll player...Spurs will go for it

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Originally Posted by benefactor

Spur fan expecting a good big to sign for the MLE per par.

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Nope, I expect the Spurs to use that money elsewhere and get a big that can potentially punish teams for going small. Millsap is the man for that kind of money.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Too much for a guy that couldn't even find the floor in the Finals. Sorry Tiago. I liked how you ran the pick-and-roll and your solid defense, but see ya man.

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It was just a bad matchup for him with Miami playing small ball. He was huge for the Spurs against Memphis, GS, and LA.

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Originally Posted by loveforthegame

Boy. Spurs are going to be paying for Splitter a long time. In more ways than one.

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3 years beats the hell out of when guys like this used to get 6 year deals.

the problem is that there are not really a lot of quality bigs on the market. David West will probably sign with Indiana, Minnesota will match any offer for Pekovic, Al Jefferson will get more than 12M. We should know that Josh Smith and Dwight won't sign here, so the only guy that we could sign over Splitter is Paul Millsap. I wouldn't give Tiago over 8M a year, but the league bigs really suck this days so I don't know.

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

3 years beats the hell out of when guys like this used to get 6 year deals.

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Yeah, but we were all hoping he might've at least given us a little discount...

Portland just received Thomas Robinson from Houston. Are they still going to want Splitter ?

$8M was the line for me. I'd reluctantly agree to an $8.5M contract, but no more.

As much criticism as NASF gives Splitter, what goes missing is the fact that we're better with Tiago than without. Against every other team not named the Heat, he's a deadly pick n roll player who also plays sound defense. We won't get better with the PF's and C's available via free agency.

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Portland just received Thomas Robinson from Houston. Are they still going to want Splitter ?

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Robinson is a 4, while Splitter is a 5. Rumors going around that Aldridge may be dealt as well. So yes, I would think so.

:lol

Let him walk and let Duncan retire. You will be begging for him back when Parker is trying to run the pick and roll with slow footed ass Baynes.

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Portland just received Thomas Robinson from Houston. Are they still going to want Splitter ?

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That's exactly what I was thinking.

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It was just a bad matchup for him with Miami playing small ball. He was huge for the Spurs against Memphis, GS, and LA.

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It was the Finals. Although we had a marvelous run, winning the west means very little to me, sorry. If we find our way back into the Finals, chances are the Heat will be there. Are we just going to bench Splitter once again? An $8 million a year player needs to be on the court when it matters the most.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Nope, I expect the Spurs to use that money elsewhere and get a big that can potentially punish teams for going small. Millsap is the man for that kind of money.

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:lol

Tiago might help his case by gaining some weight & getting stronger this offseason.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

It was the Finals. Although we had a marvelous run, winning the west means very little to me, sorry. If we find our way back into the Finals, chances are the Heat will be there. Are we just going to bench Splitter once again? An $8 million a year player needs to be on the court when it matters the most.

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Dude we were good enough to win this year. One rebound or one made free throw would've changed everything.

Yeah let's just overpay for Paul Millsap instead. :lol

Tiago Splitter averaged 3 rebounds per game in the playoffs. Tony Parker had more. Thats how soft this guy is.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

It was the Finals. Although we had a marvelous run, winning the west means very little to me, sorry. If we find our way back into the Finals, chances are the Heat will be there. Are we just going to bench Splitter once again? An $8 million a year player needs to be on the court when it matters the most.

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And he was a contributor as to why the Spurs made it to the Finals. He's also one of the reasons why the Spurs defense was so improved. It cannot be overlooked.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

It was the Finals. Although we had a marvelous run, winning the west means very little to me, sorry. If we find our way back into the Finals, chances are the Heat will be there. Are we just going to bench Splitter once again? An $8 million a year player needs to be on the court when it matters the most.

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Spoken like a true fickle fan.

http://www.playmakeronline.com/wp-co...als-Game-4.jpg


:lol:lol:lol:lol

If he leaves, we'll miss his presence a lot more than some of you seem to think.

Keep him. No potential (realistic) replacement could do better.

I bet SpursRock20 was one of the people that was bitching because Splitter wasn't starting, and now is bitching because he doesn't want him to return.

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Originally Posted by TE

Dude we were good enough to win this year. One rebound or one made free throw would've changed everything.

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I think Tiago not playing like crap would've made a lot of difference in the finals. Everyone wants to bash Manu for his poor play but honestly Tiago was a big letdown. He should've bullied the Miami bigs. I love Tiago and hope he stays, but he's GOT to improve his presence around the rim.

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

Spoken like a true fickle fan.

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Fickle? That game 6 loss still hurts just as much as it did that day. Nothing has changed. What I saw out of Splitter in the Finals was plain awful. He shrunk when it mattered the most. Whether we won or lost that series, I felt Splitter needed to be let go if was going to get this kind of money (which I expected).

Srs question, if it gets to that kind of money, wouldn't the Spurs be better served by going after Asik? At least it would be one less year of commitment for the same kind of money...

I was hoping for more of a 3 years/21million, but I think 3 years/ 25 million isn't too bad. Like I mentioned in the FA thread that Tiago played great in the against the Gasol brothers & Randolph. Just glad it isn't that $10 million a year some people here wanted to give him even if he had a great finals & helped us win. We are going full tank mode in two years hopefully, and Tiago could be a nice expiring contract trade piece if Duncan decides to retire at the end of 2015 season.

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Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose

I think Tiago not playing like crap would've made a lot of difference in the finals. Everyone wants to bash Manu for his poor play but honestly Tiago was a big letdown. He should've bullied the Miami bigs. I love Tiago and hope he stays, but he's GOT to improve his presence around the rim.

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This. Dude needs to make some strides on this offensive end. The only problem is that I don't see him improving too much. But we'll see.

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Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose

I think Tiago not playing like crap would've made a lot of difference in the finals. Everyone wants to bash Manu for his poor play but honestly Tiago was a big letdown. He should've bullied the Miami bigs. I love Tiago and hope he stays, but he's GOT to improve his presence around the rim.

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Agreed. Tiago deserved a lot of criticism for that NBA finals.

Still, the Spurs would take a step back if Splitter doesn't return. Yet some people on here think he's easily replaceable. :lol

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Originally Posted by benefactor

Spur fan expecting a good big to sign for the MLE per par.

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Yeah, I don't understand the surprise or, in some cases, outrage. If anything, I'd actually be pleased if he get's an offer sheet for 3/$25M, as opposed to $30M or close to it.

The Spurs would not only match 3/$25M in a heartbeat, but they may actually propose it themselves.

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Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose

Yeah, but we were all hoping he might've at least given us a little discount...

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Nothing's been signed yet. For all we know, he's planning to resign and his agent is just floating numbers as a negotiating tactic.

let splitter sign elsewhere ............. re-sign blair 4 years................... blair = better rebounder/finisher/PNR player...........................

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Srs question, if it gets to that kind of money, wouldn't the Spurs be better served by going after Asik? At least it would be one less year of commitment for the same kind of money...

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What would we have to give up to get him? The Rockets wouldn't want Tiago as well as Dwight, right?

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Originally Posted by playblair

let him walk ............. re-sign blair 4 years................... blair = better rebounder/finisher/PNR player...........................

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Playnando is that u?

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Nope, I expect the Spurs to use that money elsewhere and get a big that can potentially punish teams for going small. Millsap is the man for that kind of money.

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You know Millsap is a 3, right? He's 6'8. He borderlines as a four in extreme smallball. Borderlines.

We need to mercilessly destroy whatever team is running up the bill on Splitter the same way we humiliated Boston for years.

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Originally Posted by manufan10

I bet SpursRock20 was one of the people that was bitching because Splitter wasn't starting, and now is bitching because he doesn't want him to return.

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I don't want him to return for that kind of money. Look I know he is a very solid piece. But I believe the Heat are a lock to be in the Finals again next year. If we somehow make it, marching out the same starting 5 is not going to be good enough. Splitter is just not the man against the Heat.

Tiago was one of the keys why we returned to the Finals. He was awful in the Finals but played well vs Lakers and Grizzlies.

I never expected less than $7-8 million per year.

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

What would we have to give up to get him? The Rockets wouldn't want Tiago as well as Dwight, right?

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Asik was released, iirc.

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Originally Posted by manufan10

I bet SpursRock20 was one of the people that was bitching because Splitter wasn't starting, and now is bitching because he doesn't want him to return.

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This new group of greys are a bunch of emotional girls that still cry themselves to sleep over the Finals. Thankfully the same people that helped get the Spurs to the Finals last season will be running the team this year too.

$7 million is solid for TS.

Splitter will be a Spur next season. No worries.

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Originally Posted by manufan10

Asik was released, iirc.

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Whats the info on Asik? Don't really know much about the guy tbh

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

I don't want him to return for that kind of money. Look I know he is a very solid piece. But I believe the Heat are a lock to be in the Finals again next year. If we somehow make it, marching out the same starting 5 is not going to be good enough. Splitter is just not the man against the Heat.

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Honestly if Pop played Diaw much more, this wouldn't be a problem. The Spurs not only need to play against the Heat. They need to play against the Dwight Howards, the Gasols, the Randolphs. (players that Tiago matches up well with). Duncan is going to need help against these guys and Splitter is the best option.

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Originally Posted by manufan10

Asik was released, iirc.

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He has two years left on a three year deal. The Rockets are just making him available by trade.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Fickle? That game 6 loss still hurts just as much as it did that day. Nothing has changed. What I saw out of Splitter in the Finals was plain awful. He shrunk when it mattered the most. Whether we won or lost that series, I felt Splitter needed to be let go if was going to get this kind of money (which I expected).

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:cry

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You know Millsap is a 3, right? He's 6'8. He borderlines as a four in extreme smallball. Borderlines.

We need to mercilessly destroy whatever team is running up the bill on Splitter the same way we humiliated Boston for years.

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So Blair is a SG because he is 6'6 right?

Millsap plays big, and plays the 4, that's why I mentioned him.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

I don't want him to return for that kind of money. Look I know he is a very solid piece. But I believe the Heat are a lock to be in the Finals again next year. If we somehow make it, marching out the same starting 5 is not going to be good enough. Splitter is just not the man against the Heat.

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I actually like our chances if we go back to the finals against the heat. Fluke victory for the heat in game 6 and a fluke win in game 7 with James and battier nearly going perfect from 3. Kawhi will b a much better player (scary) as would Tiago

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

What would we have to give up to get him? The Rockets wouldn't want Tiago as well as Dwight, right?

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I think he's owed $5m next season? I think Houston is shopping him, so perhaps something like Bonner + picks?

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He has two years left on a three year deal. The Rockets are just making him available by trade.

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Yeah, that was my bad. It was Brooks/Delfino that was released.

All the top-tier FA bigs are signing elsewhere for more money. I really don't see what choice the Spurs have but to overpay for Charmin unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

This new group of greys are a bunch of emotional girls that still cry themselves to sleep over the Finals. Thankfully the same people that helped get the Spurs to the Finals last season will be running the team this year too.

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I've been here all season, and didn't make one emotional post during the whole Finals run. I bleed silver and black and have never jumped off their wagon. Didn't know that being a Splitter lover was synonymous with being a Spurs fan. I like the dude, but 9 million is too much.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

This new group of greys are a bunch of emotional girls that still cry themselves to sleep over the Finals. Thankfully the same people that helped get the Spurs to the Finals last season will be running the team this year too.

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:lol

The main concern for me is that's a lot of money for someone who is so injury-prone.

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Asik was released, iirc.

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Houston is looking to possibly trade him. He would bring in a lot of value. Why would they release him?

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The main concern for me is that's a lot of money for someone who is so injury-prone.

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81 games says hi.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

Portland just received Thomas Robinson from Houston. Are they still going to want Splitter ?

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maybe they plan on using robinson in a sign and trade for splitter?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I think he's owed $5m next season? I think Houston is shopping him, so perhaps something like Bonner + picks?

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While he is owed $5.3 Million, he counts for $8.3 Million. So if the Spurs stay over the cap, they have to offer more than that.

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Houston is looking to possibly trade him. He would bring in a lot of value. Why would they release him?

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Yeah, that was my bad. It was Brooks/Delfino that was released.

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I think he's owed $5m next season? I think Houston is shopping him, so perhaps something like Bonner + picks?

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If that deal's on the table, we should take it without a second thought. That would leave us with plenty of cap to use to fill out our bench. :tu

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I actually like our chances if we go back to the finals against the heat. Fluke victory for the heat in game 6 and a fluke win in game 7 with James and battier nearly going perfect from 3. Kawhi will b a much better player (scary) as would Tiago

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I hope so too man. I just hope that Tiago can improve in finishing around the basket while keeping the ball above his waste. Some of those turnovers really hurt us.

How good was Splitter defensively without Duncan next to him? Thank you and good day.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

While he is owed $5.3 Million, he counts for $8.3 Million. So if the Spurs stay over the cap, they have to offer more than that.

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Bonner + DeColo + picks?

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Originally Posted by Chinook

While he is owed $5.3 Million, he counts for $8.3 Million. So if the Spurs stay over the cap, they have to offer more than that.

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If we renounce Splitter, we wouldn't have any reason to stay over the cap, would we?

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Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger

Tiago Splitter averaged 3 rebounds per game in the playoffs. Tony Parker had more. Thats how soft this guy is.

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This please God no don't do it RC.

Splitter is not worth 2 Boris Diaw and a half. No way in Hell, not in this universe.

It's a lot, but Splitter is probably worth that much to the spurs' title hopes. He's a big reason why the spurs made it out of the west this year.

Obviously, if you can pick up someone like Asik, you let splitter go. But only if you can get a defensive 7 footer. We aren't going to challenge for a damn title in 2014 with rookie Baynes or Dejuan fucking blair starting at center.

Hmm real tough, milsap the only realistic alternative correct?

Splitter's skillset fit this team so well although obviously he's got flaws and is pretty soft for a big man but the spurs would definitely miss him if they decide to go another direction

If you go with milsap, obviously toughness and rebounding and an improved mid range j is what he can offer to this team, he's undersized but I'd love to have him

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It's a lot, but Splitter is probably worth that much to the spurs' title hopes. He's a big reason why the spurs made it out of the west this year.

Obviously, if you can pick up someone like Asik, you let splitter go. But only if you can get a defensive 7 footer. We aren't going to challenge for a damn title in 2014 with rookie Baynes or Dejuan fucking blair starting at center.

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Not really he only played a full series.

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I've been here all season, and didn't make one emotional post during the whole Finals run. I bleed silver and black and have never jumped off their wagon. Didn't know that being a Splitter lover was synonymous with being a Spurs fan. I like the dude, but 9 million is too much.

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i'll take Splitter over Millsap

The Blazers still have enough under the cap to offer a competitive offer for Splitter, but they can no longer give a huge deal like they gave to Hibbert, at least in terms of starting salary. They'd have to relieve some salary to do so. If they really want Splitter, they'd probably agree to a sign-and-trade, as it would save them on money and potentially assets. Robinson could be part of such as deal, or if it's in the context of a larger Aldridge trade, the Spurs could get some of the haul Portland gets for LA.

As far as the offer, I don't know why people are upset. That's literally $507k more than he's already counting against the cap. It shouldn't affect the team's efforts to add other free players this season, and the team is going to be over the cap again next season anyway. So who cares? It's a fair deal.

Maybe we can do a S&T for LeBron and have him play the 4?

Sounds about right tbh

Splitter showed he has the capacity to improve his game. He definitely did a much better job from the FT line this year. He needs some strength and conditioning work as well as some fundamental work on rebounding and boxing out. If we can keep him, I think we should.

I thought he did a great job as did Bonner in the LA and Memphis series but he came up pitifully short in the Finals. It was embarrassing how weak he was. That just can't happen again. If we had better options, I'd say explore them, but I don't think we do.

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Maybe we can do a S&T for LeBron and have him play the 4?

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WTF

Splitter >>>>>>> Lebum; and it ain't even close

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

If we renounce Splitter, we wouldn't have any reason to stay over the cap, would we?

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No. Renouncing Splitter saves the team $2.5 Million in salary, but they'd lose the right to match ANY offer Splitter gets. They'd have to stay under the cap matching at that point. If the Spurs are over the cap, they can't match any offer that starts at more than his QO. They couldn't even sign-and-trade him effectively.

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Bonner + DeColo + picks?

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That would work financially. I don't know why the Rockets would go for it, though.

I'd love to hear who would be a better replacement for the same money.

I swear if someone says Baynes...

Sign it. First, what's the alternative? Spurs fan acts like there are other reasonable options.

Second, Splitter is a quality starting 5 in the NBA. Spurs fan holds him to dominant expectations but wants to pay him the MLE.

Last, the Spurs are trying to keep the window open one more season. I could care less about 2015.

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WTF

Splitter >>>>>>> Lebum; and it ain't even close

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Well this would be assuming that we'd also get Bosh Wade and Allen as well, plus Miami's first rounders for the next 5 years. I think that's pretty fair tbh

Splitter's not going anywhere. Spurs will match anything thrown at him.

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I'd love to hear who would be a better replacement for the same money.

I swear if someone says Baynes...

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Paul Milsap has been the only suggestion thus far.

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Originally Posted by T Park

I'd love to hear who would be a better replacement for the same money.

I swear if someone says Baynes...

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Baynes is already better, he's not a pussy and has an actual jumper...

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Splitter's not going anywhere. Spurs will match anything thrown at him.

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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred

81 games says hi.

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Hello.

http://s.mcstatic.com/thumb/8287297/...estion.jpg?v=4

SpursTalk at the end of 2012 West Finals: "Why didn't Splitter play more? If he had played more, Spurs win. Dumb Pop."

SpursTalk at the end of 2013 NBA Finals: "Splitter sucks. He's the reason the Spurs lost the title. Don't pay that guy his market value. Dumb Pop."

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Sign it. First, what's the alternative? Spurs fan acts like there are other reasonable options.

Second, Splitter is a quality starting 5 in the NBA. Spurs fan holds him to dominant expectations but wants to pay him the MLE.

Last, the Spurs are trying to keep the window open one more season. I could care less about 2015.

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He's a 4, not sure how you can mistake that guy for a center... 3 rebounds per game, softer than Bargnani...

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Originally Posted by Baam

Baynes is already better, he's not a pussy and has an actual jumper...

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He did in Europe. It hasn't really come stateside yet. Sounds familiar...