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You're still missing the point. Ballhandlers will have a lot of turnovers, because they're the ones that handle the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitman4evah
FWIW, Tony has done even worse: 66 TOs in 06-07 and 71 TOs in 04-05... yet we still won the 'ship both times.
No, there's this thing called ratios. There's also the fact that Manu had 8 turnover in G6, and 4 in the fourth quarter alone in G7! TP had 2 combined in those games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
ball dominant (-)
never averaged more than six assists per game
and launched more shots than any player other than Kobe Bryant, Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony last season (-)
a classic volume jump shooter, he fires up a bunch and a few actually go in (28% 3ptr 2012-13 season) (-)
locker room virus (-)
if he'll play for the Spurs Duncan, Green & Kawhi will ave 5 APG
because he will be competing with TP for the ball :lol
Let him go to Sacramento
He will not be here folks so do not worry!
I'd be down for this.. We need another playmaker off the bench
I do not like this at all.
Evans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eliis
I'd rather have JR Smith though
Of course... Manu posted a 1.91 AST/TO ratio... comparable to the likes of George Hill (1.93), Mario Chalmers (1.87), Dwayne Wade (1.81), etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitman4evah
Monta Ellis definitely not on that list though :lol
If this actually did mean anything..... Which it doesn't.
If the spurs actually sign him.... Which they won't.
Than this would obviously be the first of many moves they plan to make this summer. It's not +/- this player and that player.
Just use your brain for once.
I'd rather trade for DeRozan than sign Ellis. At least DeRozan has the size and athleticism to be come a complete player.
Is he available? I would think DeRozan would command more money?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
He can't shoot or run the point tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
The idea is growing on me, rather spend 10M on Ellis than on Splitter.
DeRozan just inked a $38M/4 extension last year. So that's his contract ($9.5 Million each year). The Raptors just tried to trade him to the Clippers, and they have Terrence Ross, so he's definitely obtainable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Are they just trying to get out from under his salary, or would they be looking for assets in return?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
He can shoot from mid-range, but he's not good from three at all. The fact that he can shoot 40 percent from 16-23 feet gives me hope that he can get more consistent from long range. He's a chucker in the Rudy Gay mold, but with hard work, he could probably become a more-efficient player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baam
They tried to trade him for Eric Bledsoe (and still might succeed in that). I actually think they'd love Bonner and Joseph and some picks for him. I think their new GM knows that DeRozan and Gay can't coexist.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
What are the Raptors doing? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
He's only 23...
Love this. Agreed. Unlike Ellis or Gay, DeRozan is a solid defender as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Monta Ellis would thrive here in San Antonio. With a little help from Chip he could improve from the 3 and drastically improve our bench. You guys who disagree are stupid.
I want zilch to do with that guy on this team...
why trade for DeRozan? 9.5 million to back-up Kawhi while Green starts and Manu backs up the SG?
He's the two-guard version of Rudy Gay. He's an even worse three-point shooter than Ellis (28 percent last season), and he's not much better from two (44 percent). He's not like Evans who has put up great stats that people have just failed to notice. He'd need a lot of coaching to reach his potential, but he's getting paid like he's already there. I also have no idea about his attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
But as you said, he's only 23, and he's a 6-7 shooting-guard. With good coaching, he would hopefully get a good shot selection. He has great physical tools as well. Since I consider the Spurs' cap space essentially house money, I wouldn't mind gambling a bit here. If he can get coached to be a plus defender, he and Leonard could be incredible together for years to come.
Why not? If the Spurs stay over the cap, it won't be like there's any money wasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by objective