They won't amnesty him. Bonner will die a Spur. Pop will make sure of it.
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They won't amnesty him. Bonner will die a Spur. Pop will make sure of it.
I'm not sure, the money part is likely a very small consideration in all honesty (just a couple hundred grand likely). The real key is delaying it doesn't put Bonner in harms way and the Spurs seem to have a great relationship with him so I just don't see the issue.
Agreed. I don't see much of a reason for Bonner to go along with moving his date back.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
It's such a small amount it doesn't seem worth it at all to Bonner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Well, it's just a small perk of delaying, not the main idea behind it. It's more about he and the Spurs having a deal that doesn't harm Bonner but helps the Spurs. Bonner may feel differently but to me it's not a big deal for Bonner to do.
Splitter is nobody's first option it seems. The Spurs can sit back and watch Tiago's value dry up. Portland expressed interest but seem to be pursuing UFA's or trades much harder.
What does it do for Bonner again?
His value won't dry up. He will be pretty high up on people's list after Dwight/Josh Smith/Al Jefferson.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
:lol Don't be purposely obtuse. In the big scheme of things? Does nothing for Bonner. But it does not hurt him at all (in my mind). Even though he doesn't gain from it, sometimes people do things (as long as it does not hurt him) to help people out. With his seemingly great relationship with the Spurs, I can see him helping the Spurs out even though he doesn't gain from it (with the exception of good will, which goes a long way, especially in future potential roles.)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Now, odds are that the Spurs/Bonner didn't do this, just saying it would not be a shock if it happened.
So Bonner would give up $3,000,000 to get a couple hundred thousand from a team that doesn't want him and keep him off the free agent market for days or weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I'm trying to see how people think this would make sense. It just doesn't.
How would he give up 3M? The Spurs could have very well said to him: "Look, we would like for you to push back your deadline. We love you and we really appreciate everything you have done for us. However, because of the direction we are going, we are going to waive you since your contract is only 1M guaranteed. If you push back that date a few weeks, we will still get you your 1M plus some extra money for your troubles, but it would really help us out. If not, we understand and we will waive you by June 30th".Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Either way, Bonner only gets his 1M.
You just answered your own question.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
He's not giving up 3M.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
No, if the Spurs have to wait for some reason, that's their problem. Bonner doesn't have to wait; the deadline passes and he gets all the money.
Otherwise, his agent could just say waive him by the deadline agreed to so he can find a new team. Keep your $20.
You just said he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
He's not getting 3 mil in either of the scenarios described by DPG. Not sure why chump isn't understanding
The option wouldn't be for him to get his full salary in that scenario either through being traded or amnestied. The convo in pushing back the deadline always has him getting 1M. If he didn't agree to do that, he gets waived and only gets 1M. Him not agreeing does not get him an extra 3M.
Can't Spurs go over the cap since they have bird rights? Weren't they over it this season? Why do they have to stay under the cap?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Ok, but pushing back the deadline doesn't cost him 3M if he's going to get waived. That's the point. They may very well tell the Spurs "keep your 20" but that doesn't get Bonner more money and would be a pretty meaningless and petty stand for a team/player with a good relationship. You are making this into a bigger deal than it is. It's quite simple really. It doesn't hurt bonner at all to do the Spurs this favor even if he does not gain anything right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Exactly, so why would he agree to the one that hadn't been agreed to?Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
I can't see any player going along with this.
How do you know it doesn't hurt Bonner? He's off the market and can't talk to anyone during the actual free agent period. Again, it simply makes no sense for a player to do this for a team that expressly doesn't want him anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Well, we just agree to disagree on how it hurts Bonner. I already answered your question on why I don't think it's a big deal for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper