Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat

Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report
New NBA info: Source tells me that the #Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat...




Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report
Source: Spurs-Suns deal 4 Gortat would either be n a Splitter sign-and-trade or Diaw/filler. Suns get at least a 2014 1st rounder either way

holy shit

So the Spurs don't really like Tiago....

:wow

SOLD!

Spurs seem really busy this offseason

Diaw back in PHO?

:lol DOK gon be mad

See ya, Tiago. :depressed

Sign and trade splitter, keep draw.

can it be a 2015 first rounder instead

Great...another RJ. Well all hate him in a year.

not bad...

Didn't see that one coming but I think I like it.

At least he'll rebound the ball is my first thought.

Kirilenko could upgrade Diaw.

:lol Duncan must've threaten to put his foot in somebody's ass if they didn't get him back to the Finals! Lol!

Sucks for tiago situation wise

who would you rather lose though.. splitter or diaw?

HELL FUCKING YEAH

BOOM.

Holy sh!t.

This would be perfect. Screw Splitter. The only big teams in the league aren't very quick anyways. Zbo/Marc,KG/Lopez,Hibbert/West. If we add AK the perimeter defense will be fine.

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Originally Posted by Monkeyboy14

who would you rather lose though.. splitter or diaw?

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If we're acquiring Gortat, definitely Splitter.

Although a Duncan, Splitter, Gortat and Baynes big rotation would be pretty stiff.

Also, I'd have to see what the other two teams would be. This screams of the Spurs getting another player back along with Splitter.

I also don't think the pick is going to come from San Antonio. Probably Portland. Robinson could be on the move already...

Splitter definitely. Please not Diaw.

I lied, I don't want Splitter to go. :cry

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

If we're acquiring Gortat, definitely Splitter.

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yeeah i just remembered there play in the finals haha we can drop splitter if this goes through

I guess Tiago will be out of touch, we are out of time, pop is out of his head when he is not around
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/R7fiQU0kFHs/0.jpg

yes please.

Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report
New Suns GM Ryan McDonough LOVES Alex Len. Saw him in a gym when he was 17. Suns want to stockpile and Len can play immediately.

KEEP DIAW!!!!!!!!!!!

:wow strange. If it's for Tiago, Gortat makes about as much as Tiago would (assuming he doesn't get some massive offer). I like Gortat, very talented (more offensive prowess than Tiago), but giving up a first and Tiago for him?

If it's Boris+Filler from a talent perspective that is much better but do you S&T Splitter for something else if that happens? Keep both?

Wow

Gortat is 6'11 right?

Wow.

Gortat has 1 year left on his deal at $7.7 mil.

Outright S&T for an expiring deal (just as Duncan's deal comes up with a PO).

Gives the Spurs flexibility again next off-season.

Not a fan of this if it happens. Gortat is terrible defensively, good offensively, but it's a step back.

Not big on losing Diaw either.

I'm an unabashed Splitter homer but I could be swayed on a Diaw/Tiago for AK/Gortat swap tbh.

If they're willing to throw in a first rounder, they probably are still keeping the cap space this summer.

Gortat is a bigger pussy than Splitter imho

KEEP DIAW. ANY MEANS NECESSARY

It's looking more and more like the Spurs have given up on paying Tiago this summer.

Damn. Didn't see that coming.

Good news is that Gortat's salary almost matches Tiago's cap hold so the Spurs would still have all the cap space they could expect, plus Gortat is expiring next year.

Who the fuck is the Schultz Report?

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ez6vz5.jpg

Gortat is a meaner version of Splitter. The dude can finish around the rim.

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

Gortat is a bigger pussy than Splitter imho

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Nah, at least not around the rim offensively.

the polish hammer and diaw, no splitter


Even if no Gortat, no Splitter for that money

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Originally Posted by T Park

Not a fan of this if it happens. Gortat is terrible defensively, good offensively, but it's a step back.

Not big on losing Diaw either.

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Gortat is terrible defensively? Another +/- guy huh? :lol

In the Diaw + filler scenario, Bonner's salary appears to line up nicely.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Although a Duncan, Splitter, Gortat and Baynes big rotation would be pretty stiff.

Also, I'd have to see what the other two teams would be. This screams of the Spurs getting another player back along with Splitter.

I also don't think the pick is going to come from San Antonio. Probably Portland. Robinson could be on the move already...

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A small forward to back up Leonard would be nice.

Yeah, don't give up Boris. Give em a pick instead.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

In the Diaw + filler scenario, Bonner's salary appears to line up nicely.

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That would be incredibly cheap to acquire Gortat :wow. That would be expiring for expiring(s) and a late first rounder? Great value.

My immediate reaction:

Terrible idea. Gortat at his salary isn't a better deal than Splitter. Even giving up Diaw . . . Gortat is a crybaby who pouts without touches or starts for that matter.

And just as important . . . the 2014 first? For a one-year rental of Gortat? That's not worth it. The 2014 first is better used on other players or deals than the likes of Gortat.

great, ive never even heard of him..

Do y'all think gortat can guard bigs and play pick n roll D as good as tiago?

Another scenario would be the Spurs having this in the backburner as Splitter insurance?

In either scenario, Spurs get all their cap space we have been discussing with our assumptions.

Imagine the same roster as last year but instead you subtract Blair/Boris/Bonner/Neal and add Gortat/AK47 :wow stackkeeeeeeddddddddddddd

Tbh, I bet Gortat is fueling with anger and motivation to get back at OKC for this. Bring him on.

Keep Diaw.

LMAO at the grey's that don't like this trade or have never heard of Marcin.

to me gortat is a better rim protecter and finisher around the basket than tiago

So you really think Gortat is better than Splitter? This makes me really nervous. Seems like a lateral move at best.

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Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao

Do y'all think gortat can guard bigs and play pick n roll D as good as tiago?

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He's better at guarding bigs, but as far as pick and roll? I'd have to say no, but it wouldn't be a huge drop off, imo.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Wow...just today I was saying keep Splitter but wasn't expecting an offer as good as this.

Do it. Pull the trigger.

Man, I'd hate to lose that Diaw b-ball IQ...

OH FUCK YES!!!

Quick thoughts:

-:wow

-Gortat has one year and $7,727,280 left. Considering that Splitter's starting salary would likely be more than that and would extend multiple years, Gortat is the more valuable commodity.

-Gortat is a much better rebounder and shotblocker. Plus, you can't put a midget like Derek Fisher on him and get away with it. That said, Splitter is the better passer and he's proven to be able to play next to Duncan.

-If everything were even ......... I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight go with Splitter still. But Gortat's small, short-term contract makes him more valuable.

-The Spurs upside with Gortat would be higher. I question his fit next to Duncan a bit and he's not a natural fit in the Spurs offense ... but if he figures it out and the fit is right, the Spurs would be improved.

-Defensively, it's difficult to compare the two. Splitter is probably better defending the post, while Gortat defends the rim better. I'd say Splitter is probably the better defender in the regular season but his defense tends to shrivel up in the bright lights, so the difference might be negligible.

-Splitter and a first rounder for Gortat? It wouldn't be a great deal but the Spurs would probably have to do it. It'd be a potential upgrade. It'd give the team a higher ceiling. It gives the team more salary flexibility going forward. Next year in the playoffs, the Spurs might be able to survive against an elite team with Duncan off the court ... which hasn't been the case with Splitter the last two years.

-Diaw for Gortat? Hmmmm ... I'm not sure if I like that better or not. I guess if AK47 is a reality, then it looks good:

C: Gortat
PF: Duncan
SF: Leonard
SG: Green
PG: Parker

Off the bench, AK47 can backup both forward spots. Ginobili can backup SG and any extra SF minutes. Joseph at PG. Backup center obviously filled by Duncan when Gortat is out.

-Would it make sense to try to get Gortat AND Splitter? No, I don't think so. With so many small ball teams, that's 14-feet of center that would be watching from the sideline during too many series.

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

Gortat is a bigger pussy than Splitter imho

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I like Tiago and all but no bro.

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

LMAO at the grey's that don't like this trade or have never heard of Marcin.

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I should totally be bolded. :lol

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Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21

So you really think Gortat is better than Splitter? This makes me really nervous. Seems like a lateral move at best.

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Lateral move that saves them money tbh.

I'd be pissed if they give up diaw. Dude balled for us against lebron

I think people are reading this wrong. This is a multi-team deal. The Spurs aren't giving up Splitter AND the first. They're giving up Splitter to a third team, who'd give the first to Phoenix. Then the Suns give Gortat to the Spurs.

It's possible that the Spurs and Suns aren't even the main players in this deal. This could all be part of a Aldridge to Chicago deal or something.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Quick thoughts:

-:wow

-Gortat has one year and $7,727,280 left. Considering that Splitter's starting salary would likely be more than that and would extend multiple years, Gortat is the more valuable commodity.

-Gortat is a much better rebounder and shotblocker. Plus, you can't put a midget like Derek Fisher on him and get away with it. That said, Splitter is the better passer and he's proven to be able to play next to Duncan.

-If everything were even ......... I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight go with Splitter still. But Gortat's small, short-term contract makes him more valuable.

-The Spurs upside with Gortat would be higher. I question his fit next to Duncan a bit and he's not a natural fit in the Spurs offense ... but if he figures it out and the fit is right, the Spurs would be improved.

-Defensively, it's difficult to compare the two. Splitter is probably better defending the post, while Gortat defends the rim better. I'd say Splitter is probably the better defender in the regular season but his defense tends to shrivel up in the bright lights, so the difference might be negligible.

-Splitter and a first rounder for Gortat? It wouldn't be a great deal but the Spurs would probably have to do it. It'd be a potential upgrade. It'd give the team a higher ceiling. It gives the team more salary flexibility going forward. Next year in the playoffs, the Spurs might be able to survive against an elite team with Duncan off the court ... which hasn't been the case with Splitter the last two years.

-Diaw for Gortat? Hmmmm ... I'm not sure if I like that better or not. I guess if AK47 is a reality, then it looks good:

C: Gortat
PF: Duncan
SF: Leonard
SG: Green
PG: Parker

Off the bench, AK47 can backup both forward spots. Ginobili can backup SG and any extra SF minutes. Joseph at PG. Backup center obviously filled by Duncan when Gortat is out.

-Would it make sense to try to get Gortat AND Splitter? No, I don't think so. With so many small ball teams, that's 14-feet of center that would be watching from the sideline during too many series.

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Timvp, one underrated facet of Gortat's game is that he can hit the 15 footer.

If this went through, that "oh shit" feeling whenever Duncan leaves the court would disappear, imo. Another big that can rebound would be so damn refreshing.

Gortat is a beast, well whenever he plays SA he is, one of the most underrated guys in the league.

I really hope SA doesn't trade Diaw though, what are the chances they trade Bonner? I'd imagine his stock is much higher considering his ability to shoot 3's..,

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

:wow strange. If it's for Tiago, Gortat makes about as much as Tiago would (assuming he doesn't get some massive offer). I like Gortat, very talented (more offensive prowess than Tiago), but giving up a first and Tiago for him?

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We have to make the improvement through a big man on offense because of how the team is set up. Kawhi the majority of sf minutes so no difference maker will sign behind him, sg is taken by Green and Gino, and Tony does the same as Kawhi for the pg position.

Doing everything possible for this year is more important than a late 1st rounder.

Keep Diaw too. He really helped us in the Finals.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Another scenario would be the Spurs having this in the backburner as Splitter insurance?

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Perhaps. Another possibility is the Spurs just making a play for one more shot at a title and then blowing it all up. Spurs might not want to have Splitter's contract around for a rebuild.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Quick thoughts:

-:wow

-Gortat has one year and $7,727,280 left. Considering that Splitter's starting salary would likely be more than that and would extend multiple years, Gortat is the more valuable commodity.

-Gortat is a much better rebounder and shotblocker. Plus, you can't put a midget like Derek Fisher on him and get away with it. That said, Splitter is the better passer and he's proven to be able to play next to Duncan.

-If everything were even ......... I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight go with Splitter still. But Gortat's small, short-term contract makes him more valuable.

-The Spurs upside with Gortat would be higher. I question his fit next to Duncan a bit and he's not a natural fit in the Spurs offense ... but if he figures it out and the fit is right, the Spurs would be improved.

-Defensively, it's difficult to compare the two. Splitter is probably better defending the post, while Gortat defends the rim better. I'd say Splitter is probably the better defender in the regular season but his defense tends to shrivel up in the bright lights, so the difference might be negligible.

-Splitter and a first rounder for Gortat? It wouldn't be a great deal but the Spurs would probably have to do it. It'd be a potential upgrade. It'd give the team a higher ceiling. It gives the team more salary flexibility going forward. Next year in the playoffs, the Spurs might be able to survive against an elite team with Duncan off the court ... which hasn't been the case with Splitter the last two years.

-Diaw for Gortat? Hmmmm ... I'm not sure if I like that better or not. I guess if AK47 is a reality, then it looks good:

C: Gortat
PF: Duncan
SF: Leonard
SG: Green
PG: Parker

Off the bench, AK47 can backup both forward spots. Ginobili can backup SG and any extra SF minutes. Joseph at PG. Backup center obviously filled by Duncan when Gortat is out.

-Would it make sense to try to get Gortat AND Splitter? No, I don't think so. With so many small ball teams, that's 14-feet of center that would be watching from the sideline during too many series.

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Just look at it like this:

Spurs would have simply swapped Bonner/Blair/Neal/Boris for AK47/Gortat. The ceiling is higher and now you have a lot more tradeable assets (Gortat expiring, Tiago a talented big man...). Plus you have so many options to go big and punish tiny teams at all times.

Gortat was a big reason why Dwight Howard's team made it to the Finals.

Would rather keep Diaw.
S&T Tiago and a first for Gortat
Amnesty Bonner
Sign AK
Re-Sign Manu.
See what's next.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

We have to make the improvement through a big man on offense because of how the team is set up. Kawhi the majority of sf minutes so no difference maker will sign behind him, sg is taken by Green and Gino, and Tony does the same as Kawhi for the pg position.

Doing everything possible for this year is more important than a late 1st rounder.

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I agree. Especially since it will be a late first.

For Splitter yes, but not for Diaw... he was huge in the playoffs.

dp

this is believable if you juxtapose it to RC's public lament regarding the highly unlikely scenario of tiago developing a post up game that would occasionally draw a double team.

Spurs doing everything possible to not resign Splitter.

People on board with bringing him back.:lmao

The major difference between Gortat and Tiago is the fact that Marcin has a jump-shot. He is a really good P&R player and a much better rebounder.

I like the move tbh. I'd rather keep Boris instead of Splitter btw.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

Would rather keep Diaw.
S&T Tiago and a first for Gortat
Amnesty Bonner
Sign AK
Re-Sign Manu.
See what's next.

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this

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

Would rather keep Diaw.
S&T Tiago and a first for Gortat
Amnesty Bonner
Sign AK
Re-Sign Manu.
See what's next.

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I don't know. I'd think I would rather have TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Tiago/Gortat/AK47 than TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Gortat/Boris/AK47

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Originally Posted by Budkin

For Splitter yes, but not for Diaw... he was huge in the playoffs.

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Absolutely.
No Diaw.
Splitter can go.

And who in their right mind thinks that Splitter and a first would be a good deal for Gortat? Splitter's as valuable by himself (and even more so on a long-term deal). If anything, Phoenix would need to add sweeteners.

To me, having TP/Green/Kawhi/Tim/Gortat starting and a bench of Manu/AK47/Tiago off the bench is more enticing than having Boris in that bench unit.

Splitter can GTFO. He allowed Lebron to embarrass not only himself, but the entire organization. You put up with Tiago's weakness if you have no other choice, but if you have options, Tiago is unforgivably soft.

lol I just saw this on Project spurs and stopped by here. I'd love to get Gortat on this team, but don't want to get rid of Diaw, as already mentioned.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I don't know. I'd think I would rather have TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Tiago/Gortat/AK47 than TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Gortat/Boris/AK47

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Disagree, Splits can pass but Boris can create and he can defend the hybrid 3/4s.

Much rather keep Boris than Splits if getting back Gortat.

They can have Splitter.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

In either scenario, Spurs get all their cap space we have been discussing with our assumptions.

Imagine the same roster as last year but instead you subtract Blair/Boris/Bonner/Neal and add Gortat/AK47 :wow stackkeeeeeeddddddddddddd

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Originally Posted by ace3g

Next season will probably be addition by subtraction in terms of our roster. Certain players that have run their course will be gone which is one of the main reasons I was pissed we didn't win it all because I knew our team would be better next season just from certain players not being on the roster the following season.

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