Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat

On the surface this trade seems to make sense, but Im not too stoked about it:

1. I don't really see the upgrade at the position. i would actually argue that Tiago was fundamental to the PnR machine last year. He was also excellent defending the PnR. Not sure you get that with Gortat, though there is the possiblity to run more pick and pop. he is also an inferior rebounder for his size. Folks bitch about Tiago's rebounding, but Gortat only averages about 6rpg for his career and that's after averaging 8rpg last year on a shitty Suns team.

2. Mixed messages about the future. On the one hand the spurs are willing to take the one year rental at Tiago's QO essentially, with the idea of having cap room again next summer once Timmy weighs retirement. But simultaneously they are rumored to in unloading their 1st next year.one thing is clear though, they really don't see Tiago as part of the post Duncan era and are loath to commit money to him long term.

3.Chemestry. For such a lateral move, I don't think it makes sense to F with the corporate knowledge. Tim and Tiago work well together. If there are other assets coming back then I would reconsider, but Spurs seem to be acting Really stingily here. Maybe they're sending Tiago a message about what they think he's worth, or maybe the rumored offer sheet is a rich one.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Nah, at least not around the rim offensively.

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I didn't mean necessarily in game, but his attitude. He threw a lot of his teammates under the bus and basically ripped his entire team and I know a lot of Suns fans on RealGM criticized him for whining about players not giving it their all or caring about winning when he didn't seem to be either. I'm not going to say I follow Gortat super closely but he's going to want to be a main contributor on the team not just a cog in the machine. Personally I feel he is an upgrade offensively but is that what we really need? Spurs are already one of the best offensive teams in the league. Gortat has great athleticism and he is more physical than Tiago though. Personally I feel it's a wash, I think Splitter would excel in our system more than Gortat but who knows.

Although if the Spurs got Kirilenko and Gortat, tbh I'd be pretty content looking at our chances next year.

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Originally Posted by UZER

So you think because one grey has never heard of him, that others dont know basketball?

Thats about as dumb as assuming you know more basketball than others just because you have more posts count.

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Don't be butt hurt grey. I wasn't generalizing. I'm sure there's more than one grey poster one this forum that is so casual a fan they can't even name 10 players on the Spurs now.

I'm not sure the spurs see splitter as part of their long term plan. Once Duncan retires, I don't think anyone of us want a long term contract worth 8-10 mil committed to splitter.

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

Don't be butt hurt grey. I wasn't generalizing. I'm sure there's more than one grey poster one this forum that is so casual a fan they can't even name 10 players on the Spurs now.

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No I am butt hurt! That was a very insensitive thing to say. *folds arms*

:lol that was quick, 9 pages for nothing per par, surprised didnt reach like 20 pages :lol

this will reach 20 pages

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Originally Posted by siraulo23

:lol that was quick, 9 pages for nothing per par, surprised didnt reach like 20 pages :lol

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If the [email protected] didn't out his own lie, this was heading to 20 pages, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

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Thank god, I don't want Gortat.

Well... that was fun while it lasted. I guess now we understand why this trade didn't make a lot of sense for the Suns.

:lmao Greg Oden

I don't even know what to think anymore.

Surprised more people didn't shit their pants over that Gortat tweet...from two weeks ago :lol

I like him, Gortat can play

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Originally Posted by emanueldavidginobili

I like him, Gortat can play

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Not according to the Suns fans. They are on him just as much as Spurs fans are on Tiago about being soft etc.

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04.../4/628x471.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sobe_Kucks

Not according to the Suns fans. They are on him just as much as Spurs fans are on Tiago about being soft etc.

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This is why I said he is another RJ. We'll all hate him in a year.

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Originally Posted by UZER

So you think because one grey has never heard of him, that others dont know basketball?

Thats about as dumb as assuming you know more basketball than others just because you have more posts count.

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:lol tru dat

In other news, Spurs are reportedly interested in Derek Anderson and Rasho Nesterovic. Spurs front office believes both will provide the spurs with exactly what was missing during the finals. More to come.... UPDATE: Spurs have now cooled on Anderson and Nesterovic because they've turned attention to signing Negele Knight and Greg Ostertag. Keep following my twitter for more updates.

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

I didn't mean necessarily in game, but his attitude. He threw a lot of his teammates under the bus and basically ripped his entire team and I know a lot of Suns fans on RealGM criticized him for whining about players not giving it their all or caring about winning when he didn't seem to be either. I'm not going to say I follow Gortat super closely but he's going to want to be a main contributor on the team not just a cog in the machine. Personally I feel he is an upgrade offensively but is that what we really need? Spurs are already one of the best offensive teams in the league. Gortat has great athleticism and he is more physical than Tiago though. Personally I feel it's a wash, I think Splitter would excel in our system more than Gortat but who knows.

Although if the Spurs got Kirilenko and Gortat, tbh I'd be pretty content looking at our chances next year.

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This.

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Originally Posted by texbound

In other news, Spurs are reportedly interested in Derek Anderson and Rasho Nesterovic. Spurs front office believes both will provide the spurs with exactly what was missing during the finals. More to come.... UPDATE: Spurs have now cooled on Anderson and Nesterovic because they've turned attention to signing Negele Knight and Greg Ostertag. Keep following my twitter for more updates.

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Sounds about right.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Thank god, I don't want Gortat.

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Spurs can do witout him

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Originally Posted by timvp

If the [email protected] didn't out his own lie, this was heading to 20 pages, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04.../4/628x471.jpg

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That was awesome. Nice job MB.

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Originally Posted by UZER

This is why I said he is another RJ. We'll all hate him in a year.

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Yup Yup...

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

I didn't mean necessarily in game, but his attitude. He threw a lot of his teammates under the bus and basically ripped his entire team and I know a lot of Suns fans on RealGM criticized him for whining about players not giving it their all or caring about winning when he didn't seem to be either. I'm not going to say I follow Gortat super closely but he's going to want to be a main contributor on the team not just a cog in the machine. Personally I feel he is an upgrade offensively but is that what we really need? Spurs are already one of the best offensive teams in the league. Gortat has great athleticism and he is more physical than Tiago though. Personally I feel it's a wash, I think Splitter would excel in our system more than Gortat but who knows.

Although if the Spurs got Kirilenko and Gortat, tbh I'd be pretty content looking at our chances next year.

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Spot on. Splitter is soft, but so is this guy. Dont be fooled by the muscles. Its a wash.