Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by Chinook
Although a Duncan, Splitter, Gortat and Baynes big rotation would be pretty stiff.
Also, I'd have to see what the other two teams would be. This screams of the Spurs getting another player back along with Splitter.
I also don't think the pick is going to come from San Antonio. Probably Portland. Robinson could be on the move already...
A small forward to back up Leonard would be nice.
07-01-2013
TE
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Yeah, don't give up Boris. Give em a pick instead.
07-01-2013
DPG21920
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
In the Diaw + filler scenario, Bonner's salary appears to line up nicely.
That would be incredibly cheap to acquire Gortat :wow. That would be expiring for expiring(s) and a late first rounder? Great value.
07-01-2013
objective
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
My immediate reaction:
Terrible idea. Gortat at his salary isn't a better deal than Splitter. Even giving up Diaw . . . Gortat is a crybaby who pouts without touches or starts for that matter.
And just as important . . . the 2014 first? For a one-year rental of Gortat? That's not worth it. The 2014 first is better used on other players or deals than the likes of Gortat.
07-01-2013
Big Empty
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
great, ive never even heard of him..
07-01-2013
Floyd Pacquiao
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Do y'all think gortat can guard bigs and play pick n roll D as good as tiago?
07-01-2013
ElNono
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Another scenario would be the Spurs having this in the backburner as Splitter insurance?
07-01-2013
DPG21920
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
In either scenario, Spurs get all their cap space we have been discussing with our assumptions.
Imagine the same roster as last year but instead you subtract Blair/Boris/Bonner/Neal and add Gortat/AK47 :wow stackkeeeeeeddddddddddddd
07-01-2013
Mr.Bottomtooth
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Tbh, I bet Gortat is fueling with anger and motivation to get back at OKC for this. Bring him on.
07-01-2013
RD2191
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Keep Diaw.
07-01-2013
Buddy Holly
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
LMAO at the grey's that don't like this trade or have never heard of Marcin.
07-01-2013
marinoman
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
to me gortat is a better rim protecter and finisher around the basket than tiago
07-01-2013
ThaBigFundamental21
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
So you really think Gortat is better than Splitter? This makes me really nervous. Seems like a lateral move at best.
07-01-2013
spursince#99
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao
Do y'all think gortat can guard bigs and play pick n roll D as good as tiago?
He's better at guarding bigs, but as far as pick and roll? I'd have to say no, but it wouldn't be a huge drop off, imo.
07-01-2013
tim_duncan_fan
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
I'll believe it when I see it.
07-01-2013
CitizenDwayne
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Wow...just today I was saying keep Splitter but wasn't expecting an offer as good as this.
Do it. Pull the trigger.
07-01-2013
G-Nob
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Man, I'd hate to lose that Diaw b-ball IQ...
07-01-2013
Budkin
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
OH FUCK YES!!!
07-01-2013
timvp
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Quick thoughts:
-:wow
-Gortat has one year and $7,727,280 left. Considering that Splitter's starting salary would likely be more than that and would extend multiple years, Gortat is the more valuable commodity.
-Gortat is a much better rebounder and shotblocker. Plus, you can't put a midget like Derek Fisher on him and get away with it. That said, Splitter is the better passer and he's proven to be able to play next to Duncan.
-If everything were even ......... I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight go with Splitter still. But Gortat's small, short-term contract makes him more valuable.
-The Spurs upside with Gortat would be higher. I question his fit next to Duncan a bit and he's not a natural fit in the Spurs offense ... but if he figures it out and the fit is right, the Spurs would be improved.
-Defensively, it's difficult to compare the two. Splitter is probably better defending the post, while Gortat defends the rim better. I'd say Splitter is probably the better defender in the regular season but his defense tends to shrivel up in the bright lights, so the difference might be negligible.
-Splitter and a first rounder for Gortat? It wouldn't be a great deal but the Spurs would probably have to do it. It'd be a potential upgrade. It'd give the team a higher ceiling. It gives the team more salary flexibility going forward. Next year in the playoffs, the Spurs might be able to survive against an elite team with Duncan off the court ... which hasn't been the case with Splitter the last two years.
-Diaw for Gortat? Hmmmm ... I'm not sure if I like that better or not. I guess if AK47 is a reality, then it looks good:
C: Gortat
PF: Duncan
SF: Leonard
SG: Green
PG: Parker
Off the bench, AK47 can backup both forward spots. Ginobili can backup SG and any extra SF minutes. Joseph at PG. Backup center obviously filled by Duncan when Gortat is out.
-Would it make sense to try to get Gortat AND Splitter? No, I don't think so. With so many small ball teams, that's 14-feet of center that would be watching from the sideline during too many series.
07-01-2013
DesignatedT
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Gortat is a bigger pussy than Splitter imho
I like Tiago and all but no bro.
07-01-2013
spursince#99
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
LMAO at the grey's that don't like this trade or have never heard of Marcin.
I should totally be bolded. :lol
07-01-2013
Mr.Bottomtooth
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21
So you really think Gortat is better than Splitter? This makes me really nervous. Seems like a lateral move at best.
Lateral move that saves them money tbh.
07-01-2013
spurspokesman
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
I'd be pissed if they give up diaw. Dude balled for us against lebron
07-01-2013
Chinook
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
I think people are reading this wrong. This is a multi-team deal. The Spurs aren't giving up Splitter AND the first. They're giving up Splitter to a third team, who'd give the first to Phoenix. Then the Suns give Gortat to the Spurs.
It's possible that the Spurs and Suns aren't even the main players in this deal. This could all be part of a Aldridge to Chicago deal or something.
07-01-2013
spursince#99
Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by timvp
Quick thoughts:
-:wow
-Gortat has one year and $7,727,280 left. Considering that Splitter's starting salary would likely be more than that and would extend multiple years, Gortat is the more valuable commodity.
-Gortat is a much better rebounder and shotblocker. Plus, you can't put a midget like Derek Fisher on him and get away with it. That said, Splitter is the better passer and he's proven to be able to play next to Duncan.
-If everything were even ......... I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight go with Splitter still. But Gortat's small, short-term contract makes him more valuable.
-The Spurs upside with Gortat would be higher. I question his fit next to Duncan a bit and he's not a natural fit in the Spurs offense ... but if he figures it out and the fit is right, the Spurs would be improved.
-Defensively, it's difficult to compare the two. Splitter is probably better defending the post, while Gortat defends the rim better. I'd say Splitter is probably the better defender in the regular season but his defense tends to shrivel up in the bright lights, so the difference might be negligible.
-Splitter and a first rounder for Gortat? It wouldn't be a great deal but the Spurs would probably have to do it. It'd be a potential upgrade. It'd give the team a higher ceiling. It gives the team more salary flexibility going forward. Next year in the playoffs, the Spurs might be able to survive against an elite team with Duncan off the court ... which hasn't been the case with Splitter the last two years.
-Diaw for Gortat? Hmmmm ... I'm not sure if I like that better or not. I guess if AK47 is a reality, then it looks good:
C: Gortat
PF: Duncan
SF: Leonard
SG: Green
PG: Parker
Off the bench, AK47 can backup both forward spots. Ginobili can backup SG and any extra SF minutes. Joseph at PG. Backup center obviously filled by Duncan when Gortat is out.
-Would it make sense to try to get Gortat AND Splitter? No, I don't think so. With so many small ball teams, that's 14-feet of center that would be watching from the sideline during too many series.
Timvp, one underrated facet of Gortat's game is that he can hit the 15 footer.