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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
If this went through, that "oh shit" feeling whenever Duncan leaves the court would disappear, imo. Another big that can rebound would be so damn refreshing.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Gortat is a beast, well whenever he plays SA he is, one of the most underrated guys in the league.
I really hope SA doesn't trade Diaw though, what are the chances they trade Bonner? I'd imagine his stock is much higher considering his ability to shoot 3's..,
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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DPG21920
:wow strange. If it's for Tiago, Gortat makes about as much as Tiago would (assuming he doesn't get some massive offer). I like Gortat, very talented (more offensive prowess than Tiago), but giving up a first and Tiago for him?
We have to make the improvement through a big man on offense because of how the team is set up. Kawhi the majority of sf minutes so no difference maker will sign behind him, sg is taken by Green and Gino, and Tony does the same as Kawhi for the pg position.
Doing everything possible for this year is more important than a late 1st rounder.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Keep Diaw too. He really helped us in the Finals.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Another scenario would be the Spurs having this in the backburner as Splitter insurance?
Perhaps. Another possibility is the Spurs just making a play for one more shot at a title and then blowing it all up. Spurs might not want to have Splitter's contract around for a rebuild.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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timvp
Quick thoughts:
-:wow
-Gortat has one year and $7,727,280 left. Considering that Splitter's starting salary would likely be more than that and would extend multiple years, Gortat is the more valuable commodity.
-Gortat is a much better rebounder and shotblocker. Plus, you can't put a midget like Derek Fisher on him and get away with it. That said, Splitter is the better passer and he's proven to be able to play next to Duncan.
-If everything were even ......... I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight go with Splitter still. But Gortat's small, short-term contract makes him more valuable.
-The Spurs upside with Gortat would be higher. I question his fit next to Duncan a bit and he's not a natural fit in the Spurs offense ... but if he figures it out and the fit is right, the Spurs would be improved.
-Defensively, it's difficult to compare the two. Splitter is probably better defending the post, while Gortat defends the rim better. I'd say Splitter is probably the better defender in the regular season but his defense tends to shrivel up in the bright lights, so the difference might be negligible.
-Splitter and a first rounder for Gortat? It wouldn't be a great deal but the Spurs would probably have to do it. It'd be a potential upgrade. It'd give the team a higher ceiling. It gives the team more salary flexibility going forward. Next year in the playoffs, the Spurs might be able to survive against an elite team with Duncan off the court ... which hasn't been the case with Splitter the last two years.
-Diaw for Gortat? Hmmmm ... I'm not sure if I like that better or not. I guess if AK47 is a reality, then it looks good:
C: Gortat
PF: Duncan
SF: Leonard
SG: Green
PG: Parker
Off the bench, AK47 can backup both forward spots. Ginobili can backup SG and any extra SF minutes. Joseph at PG. Backup center obviously filled by Duncan when Gortat is out.
-Would it make sense to try to get Gortat AND Splitter? No, I don't think so. With so many small ball teams, that's 14-feet of center that would be watching from the sideline during too many series.
Just look at it like this:
Spurs would have simply swapped Bonner/Blair/Neal/Boris for AK47/Gortat. The ceiling is higher and now you have a lot more tradeable assets (Gortat expiring, Tiago a talented big man...). Plus you have so many options to go big and punish tiny teams at all times.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Gortat was a big reason why Dwight Howard's team made it to the Finals.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Would rather keep Diaw.
S&T Tiago and a first for Gortat
Amnesty Bonner
Sign AK
Re-Sign Manu.
See what's next.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by
Nathan89
We have to make the improvement through a big man on offense because of how the team is set up. Kawhi the majority of sf minutes so no difference maker will sign behind him, sg is taken by Green and Gino, and Tony does the same as Kawhi for the pg position.
Doing everything possible for this year is more important than a late 1st rounder.
I agree. Especially since it will be a late first.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
For Splitter yes, but not for Diaw... he was huge in the playoffs.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
this is believable if you juxtapose it to RC's public lament regarding the highly unlikely scenario of tiago developing a post up game that would occasionally draw a double team.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Spurs doing everything possible to not resign Splitter.
People on board with bringing him back.:lmao
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
The major difference between Gortat and Tiago is the fact that Marcin has a jump-shot. He is a really good P&R player and a much better rebounder.
I like the move tbh. I'd rather keep Boris instead of Splitter btw.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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DesignatedT
Would rather keep Diaw.
S&T Tiago and a first for Gortat
Amnesty Bonner
Sign AK
Re-Sign Manu.
See what's next.
this
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by
DesignatedT
Would rather keep Diaw.
S&T Tiago and a first for Gortat
Amnesty Bonner
Sign AK
Re-Sign Manu.
See what's next.
I don't know. I'd think I would rather have TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Tiago/Gortat/AK47 than TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Gortat/Boris/AK47
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Budkin
For Splitter yes, but not for Diaw... he was huge in the playoffs.
Absolutely.
No Diaw.
Splitter can go.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
And who in their right mind thinks that Splitter and a first would be a good deal for Gortat? Splitter's as valuable by himself (and even more so on a long-term deal). If anything, Phoenix would need to add sweeteners.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
To me, having TP/Green/Kawhi/Tim/Gortat starting and a bench of Manu/AK47/Tiago off the bench is more enticing than having Boris in that bench unit.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
Splitter can GTFO. He allowed Lebron to embarrass not only himself, but the entire organization. You put up with Tiago's weakness if you have no other choice, but if you have options, Tiago is unforgivably soft.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
lol I just saw this on Project spurs and stopped by here. I'd love to get Gortat on this team, but don't want to get rid of Diaw, as already mentioned.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
I don't know. I'd think I would rather have TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Tiago/Gortat/AK47 than TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tim/Gortat/Boris/AK47
Disagree, Splits can pass but Boris can create and he can defend the hybrid 3/4s.
Much rather keep Boris than Splits if getting back Gortat.
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Re: Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
In either scenario, Spurs get all their cap space we have been discussing with our assumptions.
Imagine the same roster as last year but instead you subtract Blair/Boris/Bonner/Neal and add Gortat/AK47 :wow stackkeeeeeeddddddddddddd
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ace3g
Next season will probably be addition by subtraction in terms of our roster. Certain players that have run their course will be gone which is one of the main reasons I was pissed we didn't win it all because I knew our team would be better next season just from certain players not being on the roster the following season.