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Spurs are very fortunate to have Danny Green?
Danny Green is a better player than all of these guys. The spurs signed Danny Green for half the price, maybe a little less than these players mentioned above. Spurs got lucky or is it good work by the FO? I think it's a little bit of both. Spurs are vey fortunate.
Danny Green is signed for 3 years / $11.29 million with the San Antonio Spurs. He is making $3.76 million in 2013-2014. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-anton...s/danny-green/
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If only we had a coach who could teach him to pass, and dribble he could really be good.
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for as much crap that danny green gets for those last two games, he has been really solid the entire season. the problem was that miami finally figured out how to stop him and it was too late to adjust.
i think he is a steal for what we are paying him. he still has alot of room for improvement and he is a hard worker. if he can get some of his ball handling down and learns how to create his own shot he could be another diamond in the rough find for us.
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They are not fortunate to have him. They signed him when no one else wanted him. Then he let them down in the 2012 WCF, but the Spurs re-signed him anyway. This year, given the opportunity, he delivered big time. Danny Green is very fortunate to have the Spurs.
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I don't think Green is better than Kevin Martin, no way. Martin is a soft as hell but he is definitely a more talented player with much more of an offensive game than Green. Redick is debatable, he's pretty underrated (not at that contract though) but Green is definitely on a very good contract for what he gives us. If he was a free agent this season he'd easily be getting 6-7 million a season imo
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hyhy
korver is better
A better 3pt shooter? Sure.
A better defender? :lol
A better value for the contract? :lmao
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Good thread title by the OP.
It's funny that some Spurs fans seem to be using game 6 and 7 of the Finals as reason why Danny Green suddenly sucks. Realize that without his D on Curry, we probably don't get past the Warriors. While he does need to develop better ball handling skills and more of a mid-range game, he actually still has value when his shot isn't falling.
This is NOT the case with Redick, Martin, Korver, or Neal.
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coyotes_geek
A better 3pt shooter? Sure.
A better defender? :lol
A better value for the contract? :lmao
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.
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hyhy
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.
Go rewatch the WCSF and watch how Green frustrated Curry to no end from game 3 on. And it was Neal losing his man in the Finals most of the time, not Green.
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He's a better all around player, but his offensive game isn't on par with the guys listed.
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hyhy
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.
Thanks, but I've already watched every second of the finals. Why don't you go watch Kyle Korver try to defend someone? It isn't pretty.
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jmanu20
Go rewatch the WCSF and watch how Green frustrated Curry to no end from game 3 on. And it was Neal losing his man in the Finals most of the time, not Green.
Didnt happen tbh. only his ankle and Jarrett jack stopped him. Watch the times he just blew by green for a floater easily. And you all only noticed Neal coz all spurs fans hate him. But alot of times it was actually green not neal who lost his man.
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hyhy
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.
Good point. Danny Green has a lot of potential as a defender. I watched the Spurs all season long and one of Danny Green's weakness is being a team defender. He does tend to leave shooters open and overcommit as a help defender but I think it all comes down to effort and concentration. Green has all the tools to be an excellent defender IMO just a matter of how much effort and attention to detail he is willing to put on the court.
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coyotes_geek
Thanks, but I've already watched every second of the finals. Why don't you go watch Kyle Korver try to defend someone? It isn't pretty.
If Ray Allen can get key Finals minutes for the champ, why not Korver? Miami has shown that you can win titles while having a minus defender on the floor (Allen, Miller).
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hyhy
Didnt happen tbh. only his ankle and Jarrett jack stopped him. Watch the times he just blew by green for a floater easily. And you all only noticed Neal coz all spurs fans hate him. But alot of times it was actually green not neal who lost his man.
:lol just no. Curry didn't hurt himself until the very end of game 3 and Danny erased him up until that point anyway. It was clear that matchup fucked up their offense.
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Seventyniner
If Ray Allen can get key Finals minutes for the champ, why not Korver? Miami has shown that you can win titles while having a minus defender on the floor (Allen, Miller).
Oh Korver could definitely earn minutes on this team, but that wasn't the discussion. The discussion was whether or not Korver is a better player than Danny Green. He's not. Korver's the better offensive player, Green's the better defender. There's a much bigger gap between Green's D and Korver's D than there is between Korver's O and Green's O.
As for why not adding Korver to the Spurs, he's too expensive.
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hyhy
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.
Still better than Pussy Korver
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Leetonidas
I don't think Green is better than Kevin Martin, no way. Martin is a soft as hell but he is definitely a more talented player with much more of an offensive game than Green. Redick is debatable, he's pretty underrated (not at that contract though) but Green is definitely on a very good contract for what he gives us. If he was a free agent this season he'd easily be getting 6-7 million a season imo
Martin is a good/streaky shooter. He can get his shot a little better than Green. But percentage-wise, I'd bet Green shoots better from 3. That said, Green can defend and rebound. Martin can't. Martin can't create, pass, rebound, take people of the dribble, etc. Same could be said of Redick.
If Martin was that good, he'd still be with the Thunder.
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Don't forget Green is a good rebounder for a two guard. He pulls those down in heavy traffic (sigh except for the last 28 seconds in Game 6).
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coyotes_geek
Oh Korver could definitely earn minutes on this team, but that wasn't the discussion. The discussion was whether or not Korver is a better player than Danny Green. He's not. Korver's the better offensive player, Green's the better defender. There's a much bigger gap between Green's D and Korver's D than there is between Korver's O and Green's O.
As for why not adding Korver to the Spurs, he's too expensive.
Fair enough. If Korver was cheap enough, he would be fantastic in Neal's role, but I agree that 3/20 is way too much money for the Spurs to pay.
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hyhy
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.
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jmanu20
Go rewatch the WCSF and watch how Green frustrated Curry to no end from game 3 on. And it was Neal losing his man in the Finals most of the time, not Green.
You're both right tbh. Green's defense was a huge factor in the Spurs' favor against GSW. But on those fateful last two possessions of regulation in Game 6 of the Finals, Danny Green was completely lost. On the first play, he started drifting toward halfcourt while everyone else was trying to get the rebound after LeBron's miss, so he was out of position to defend LeBron on his second try of that possession. Then on the second possession, Green was on Allen, but when LeBron's shot went up, Green totally lost Allen, which is unforgivable. And the Spurs paid dearly.
So yes, Green had defensive lapses in the Finals, but also yes, he was outstanding defensively in the GSW series and pretty good otherwise.
So stop arguing because you're both right.
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Bill_Brasky
:lol just no. Curry didn't hurt himself until the very end of game 3 and Danny erased him up until that point anyway. It was clear that matchup fucked up their offense.
Games 1-3 curry got erased??
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TheGreatYacht
Good point. Danny Green has a lot of potential as a defender. I watched the Spurs all season long and one of Danny Green's weakness is being a team defender. He does tend to leave shooters open and overcommit as a help defender but I think it all comes down to effort and concentration. Green has all the tools to be an excellent defender IMO just a matter of how much effort and attention to detail he is willing to put on the court.
Exactly. I rmb screaming at him so many times for helping one Pass away on good shooters, but all i see on ST was green's great defense on lebron's chokes
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hyhy
Games 1-3 curry got erased??
Danny didn't guard Curry exclusively until game 3. Surprise look what happens when you put length on a score-first PG.
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Keepin' it real
You're both right tbh. Green's defense was a huge factor in the Spurs' favor against GSW. But on those fateful last two possessions of regulation in Game 6 of the Finals, Danny Green was completely lost. On the first play, he started drifting toward halfcourt while everyone else was trying to get the rebound after LeBron's miss, so he was out of position to defend LeBron on his second try of that possession. Then on the second possession, Green was on Allen, but when LeBron's shot went up, Green totally lost Allen, which is unforgivable. And the Spurs paid dearly.
So yes, Green had defensive lapses in the Finals, but also yes, he was outstanding defensively in the GSW series and pretty good otherwise.
So stop arguing because you're both right.
His defense on curry was great on curry only after his ankle, but i guess you could argue that it was his good def that caused that ankle :lmao
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Curry's ankle hurt when he missed a shot, but when he made them or exploded to the hoop for a layup, his ankle looked fine.
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Green is a one-trick pony. He was the weakest link in our starting line up all season.
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Stabula
Green is a one-trick pony. He was the weakest link in our starting line up all season.
LMAO... Green is a big part of why we got to Game 6 and 28 seconds away from winning it all. Manu and Pop were the reason why we didn't win it all. Like it or like it.
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dbestpro
If only we had a coach who could teach him to pass, and dribble he could really be good.
That's not really coached at this point of a players career, they can ask it of them, but if it's not part of his game, it's not part of his game. Then again Pop has never preached that to any of his sharp shooters, ever.
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Green is a proven napkin scorer, tbh
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Stabula
Green is a one-trick pony. He was the weakest link in our starting line up all season.
His role is to be a 3 & D player, not a franchise player. Having a guy who can hit open shots, defend, rotate the ball, and grab some boards for $3M a year is a godsend.
Yeah, having Hall of Famers 8 deep on the roster would be great, but in the real world, you need guys like Danny.
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Leetonidas
I don't think Green is better than Kevin Martin, no way. Martin is a soft as hell but he is definitely a more talented player with much more of an offensive game than Green. Redick is debatable, he's pretty underrated (not at that contract though) but Green is definitely on a very good contract for what he gives us. If he was a free agent this season he'd easily be getting 6-7 million a season imo
Defense is half the game. Martin is one of of the worst perimeter defenders in the league. Green shut down the hottest shooter on the planet in the GS series.
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It probably helped that he got injured and Green is 5 inches taller than him
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Keepin' it real
You're both right tbh. Green's defense was a huge factor in the Spurs' favor against GSW. But on those fateful last two possessions of regulation in Game 6 of the Finals, Danny Green was completely lost. On the first play, he started drifting toward halfcourt while everyone else was trying to get the rebound after LeBron's miss, so he was out of position to defend LeBron on his second try of that possession. Then on the second possession, Green was on Allen, but when LeBron's shot went up, Green totally lost Allen, which is unforgivable. And the Spurs paid dearly.
So yes, Green had defensive lapses in the Finals, but also yes, he was outstanding defensively in the GSW series and pretty good otherwise.
So stop arguing because you're both right.
Defensive mistakes are on the coach. You shouldn't be screwing up defensive possessions in game 6 of the Finals. Again why it made no sense to take our best defender of the court. Green was our second best rebounder and he probably was thinking he had to secure the rebound after they failed to secure it the first time.
If Pop really focuses on reducing the defensive mistakes I think the defense can get even better.
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Leetonidas
It probably helped that he got injured and Green is 5 inches taller than him
Using length is a sound defensive strategy.
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Leetonidas
It probably helped that he got injured and Green is 5 inches taller than him
He was 3-19 when Green was on him before he got injured, and the fact that Green's taller shouldn't matter, as everyone seems to give Lebron credit for shutting down smaller guys.
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TheGreatYacht
Danny Green is a better player than all of these guys.
:lol No, he's not, tbh.
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:lol Also, whatever happened to Rashad McCants? Dude just disappeared one day.
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I'm bumping this after hearing this:
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TheGreatYacht
LMAO... Green is a big part of why we got to Game 6 and 28 seconds away from winning it all. Manu and Pop were the reason why we didn't win it all. Like it or like it.
You are a terrible poster. Like it or like it.
TIMVPDPOY is ashamed of you.
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