Zach Lowe on Spurs Cap Situation

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Originally Posted by spursfan4ever

I'm wondering if they is anyway that CIA Pop and RC go to Andre (Iggy) and persuade him to come over for the MLE alto try and win it all next year and tell him he is our missing piece to win the championship use the the 14-15 season when more money opens up to give him a good payday. He can play the 3 behind Kl, the 2 to give DG competition and the 5 with timmy. I know this idea is way out in left field and possibly impossible but RC and Pop may try to pull a rabbit out of a hat and surprise us being Timmy's last few years. Just a thought.

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Yes, it's impossible. These are Iguodala's prime earning years. He's not going to leave $30-$40 million on the table to come play for our MLE.

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Originally Posted by Vic Petro

Ellis / Kirilenko / Oden replacing Neal / Bonner / Blair

:hat

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baynes is replacing blair

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Originally Posted by spursfan4ever

I'm wondering if they is anyway that CIA Pop and RC go to Andre (Iggy) and persuade him to come over for the MLE alto try and win it all next year and tell him he is our missing piece to win the championship use the the 14-15 season when more money opens up to give him a good payday. He can play the 3 behind Kl, the 2 to give DG competition and the 5 with timmy. I know this idea is way out in left field and possibly impossible but RC and Pop may try to pull a rabbit out of a hat and surprise us being Timmy's last few years. Just a thought.

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He opted out of 16M for this season. He's not signing a 4yr/22M contract.

GOD

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Originally Posted by Bruno

MLE is $5.15M. Spurs could clear $6M in cap space by amnestying Bonner and renouncing to Neal.

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GOD IT WILL NOT HAPPEN BUT GET RID OF THOSE TWO fools! I wish, they are about useless IMO. Either or it won't happen.

AK47
Barnes
D. Wright

I think those are their top 3 guys at this point. Probably can't afford AK now, so if I had to choose one of the others I'd pick Wright, although I think he ends up with OKC. They're courting him pretty hard from reports. Barnes met with the Lakers today, so he might not be an option either as he loves the West Coast. Who knows what this team has in mind tbh. It might end up being Casspi (which would be terrible).

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Originally Posted by Solid D

If Ray Allen had missed, would people be hoping the Spurs sign Gary Neal?

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NO! I never was a fan of him. He is one every once in a while, his shot selection is flat out horrible and he can't drive or run the PG at all like Pop tries. He is not good.

Even if Ray Allen missed, I'm not sure the Spurs were in a good position to get a rebound.

I want AK47 or Monta. But what I don't understand is if we contacted Monta, why did we pay Manu that crazy money for two years? I don't understand it unless Tim Duncan personally requested that Manu be resigned. Otherwise, I'd love to have Matt Barnes. Barnes is a way better rebounder than Bonner will ever be, even though Barnes is a 3 and skinny - the guy's tough as balls. Don't forget - without Jack, we have nobody with an edge to him. And think about how much better a defender Barnes is that Neal. To me, we could let both Bonner and Neal go if we get Barnes and any random big who can rebound (which ain't Bonner). Bonner and Neal are like middle relief pitchers who eat up innings in blowout games. Bonner disappeared in the playoffs once again. As for Neal, that one big game he had will price him out of our market. So I think Neal is gone. Barnes is a 3, but he could easily take Neal's minutes.

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Originally Posted by Staplepuffs27

Even if Ray Allen missed, I'm not sure the Spurs were in a good position to get a rebound.

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Right. Because Pop benched our Hall of Fame big man. And we all had to watch a bunch of undersized guys try to grab the most important rebound of the season. Instead, it was grabbed by Chris Bosh, the worst rebounding big man in the history of the NBA. Thank you, Pop.

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Originally Posted by timvp

I'm still deciding on Neal. My first reaction is to want him gone but: 1) he's really good injury insurance (especially for Manu), and 2) he looked pretty darn good last year until he started battling plantar fasciitis and whatever else he was dealing with.

So, logically, he's probably worth bringing back at some price. I haven't decided on that price, though :lol

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considering the spurs are paying about 1 million more than what ST thinks is reasonable for their free agents, you better be lenient with that figure

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Last day of the regular season.

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

The MLE and LLE can both be used simultaneously right?

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AFAIK yes. 5.15M MLE and 2.25M LLE right?

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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred

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free agency doesn't "end"

the craze just dies down when rosters get set and all the good players are gone. like we did with tmac, you can sign players midseason if u want. the only end is when the season ends and the dry period we are going through now

Trade Neal to the Bucks for one of their assets. I'd prefer someone like Henson, Sanders or Ilyasova, they're probably pipe dreams. But I'd be willing to take Mbah a Moute. I've been a fan of his defensive potential, even though he's a combo-forward in the worst sense possible. He's one of the most versatile defenders in the NBA (perhaps the only other player who can guard all five positions besides James). He's a very inconsistent (read:bad) three-point shooter, and he only really scores off garbage buckets.

If the Spurs don't want Mbah a Moute, they could still try for Ilyasova (after their recent draft pick, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ersan on the move) by adding Bonner and perhaps another guard or pick to the deal. That would be very much worth it to me, as Ilyasova is a 16/10 per 36 player with a sweet shot. He's somewhat overpaid, but he could come in and start next to Duncan and hold down the four spot for a long time. The Spurs could also go for smaller players like Gustavo Ayon or a pick. The Bucks would probably give up something, though. They just don't seem like a very competent franchise.

^ Well the only way to get better is a trade now clearly but I don't see it, and Gary Neal for Sanders let's not joke around...

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Originally Posted by Baam

^ Well the only way to get better is a trade now clearly but I don't see it, and Gary Neal for Sanders let's not joke around...

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I didn't even suggest that. I said that would be great, but I'd take a player like Mbah a Moute, since Neal's not valuable enough to get their bigs. Ilyasova may be their best player, but he's also the highest paid right now. I think he could be on the block for the right pieces.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I didn't even suggest that. I said that would be great, but I'd take a player like Mbah a Moute, since Neal's not valuable enough to get their bigs. Ilyasova may be their best player, but he's also the highest paid right now. I think he could be on the block for the right pieces.

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Yep I don't disagree, I think targeting the Bucks is pretty smart given their previous questionable moves.

For the record there was a rumor a while ago that the Bucks wanted to trade Ilysova for the third pick (with Wall asking for a stretch 4 and all). Just seems a out of our reach.

We can give a 2013 first and stretch 4 back but that doesn't seem quite enough...

Also I suggested something like that a while ago but can't we just do Bonner for Singleton to save cap space? Singleton is gonna lose his playing time with the arrival of Otto Porter and we have an opening at the backup 3.

Not sure that makes enough of a difference to get anyone of worth...