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I think Monta would bring more punch to the team, if he plays off the bench, but AK47 imho would bring balance on the other end. Monta is Gary Neal with better handles and no shooting, while AK47 is Kawhi in that he can put do everything - score, rebound, play D.. except maybe shoot consistently. Regardless, I won't have any problem if we got 1 of them.
He made $5.4 mil last year. I don't know if the Warrior can afford more than the MLE this year and why not go to the Spurs for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baam
TP-pg
CJ-pg
Mills-pg
Manu-pg/sg/sf
Nando-pg/sg
and you guys want another pg?? wtf
Which one of the above - besides Tony - would you trust to handle the ball and run the offense for the 2nd unit in the Finals?Quote:
Originally Posted by weebo
As much as I would love AK47, oyr defense aint our problem if you really think about it. As a unit we've came together to fix that. We need a play makers. Someome who can create his own shot. It showed in gm 7! We played dam good defense all playoff long. Thats not our problem
Ok, how about Randy Foye.
6'4" backup PG/SG combo. 29 yrs old, averaged 27 mins/game last year and shot .397 overall, .410 from 3 pt and .810 from FT line. His defense is decent, he can pass some but most important, he can run the offense for the backup unit. Essentially, he's a less pass worthy George Hill.
And he was paid $2.5 mil last year...
Manu/CJ/Nando...in that orderQuote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Jenkins
That's already tried and proven not to work. And you think it will improve w/ yet another year for Manu to get older.Quote:
Originally Posted by weebo
The problem w/ a lot of Spurs fans it that they don't realize this team is built for the regular season and not the post season. Since 2005, the Spurs have had one of the best if not THE best records during the regular season. And, that's playing in the much stronger West.
Yet, every time come the playoffs, there's been a team they don't match up well against and lose. This year, it just happened to be in the Finals vs. the Heat (we'll never know what would've happened vs. the Thunder w/ a healthy Westbrook).
The Spurs don't have a backup SF or PG worthy of quality playoff minutes vs. teams that have quality scorers on their 2nd unit.
The MLE needs to try and solve both those problems. Randy Foye, Rodrique Beaubois, etc. are all guys who should cost < $3 million. Using the ENTIRE MLE on one player is going to leave the team deficient in one or more area.
I like him. The not shy under pressure either. I wouldn't mind him an Zaza about 2 mil a piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Jenkins
Beaubois is crazy talk (if any kind of srs money is involved) and what we have already is better but Foye not a bad idea hypothetically but still can't see Spurs just shelving their boatload of guards unless it's for an impact guy like Monta available for MLE money.
I'd be really surprised if MLE priority isn't a forward.
use the MLE on Landry
then use their expiring contracts and trade for a guard
As much as I think Monta would beast in silver and black, I don't think he's willing to spend his prime playing for around $6M a year. He thinks he's worth around $10-$13M. He just opted out of an $11M++ deal so that's that.
but cojo and de colo still have the youth to develop. cojo made big strides last year and de colo was in his first year and is going to play in the summer league to continue to develop in the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Jenkins
I don't think PG is as big of need as you think.
damn man, you must have some REALLY high standards for success then. Spurs made some deep runs these past two years, and you suggesting they underperformed? There are at least 28 other teams that would love to be that unsuccessful in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Jenkins
We can't afford AK47 when Ginobili's huge contract.
Lamar Odom could be an interesting idea. His versatility would fit the Spurs need. He just needs to get his shot straight and play focus ball, and he could be a steal for what he is capable of delivering.
Odom would work but the fat Kardashian wouldn't let him come here...
He hasn't played focused ball in 4 years. Why should anyone expect him to next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
Id take A shot at Jose Calderon...... good Playmaker, and has yet to play with any Good talent..... would be a great backup
This past year was the BEST chance the Spurs have had in a long time to win another championship. Quite frankly, they should've won but choked it away. And, it wasn't really any 1 player or Pops fault as they all contributed to making mistakes down the stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by palangi
Going forward, the Spurs have a 2 yr window. Timmy and Manu on for another 2. After that, it's rebuilding (from the ground up) time. Not sure if CJ or Colo are up to playing quality minutes vs. Steph Curry, Chris Paul, Westbrook and the likes in the case TP gets injured or he needs to rest while the other team plays their starters. I don't see anyone on the roster who will be ready to do that within the next 2 years.
Patty Mills is a regular season player. So is Cory Joseph - neither are ever going to be anything other than small time role players that can contribute during the regular season. Hell, CJ left UT for the Pros after 1 yr because he new the incoming freshman PG was gonna take his starting spot... And, in the playoffs/Finals when 1 or 2 mistakes can make a huge difference, I don't think Pop will ever trust either to be in when a critical decision is needed.
De Colo looks the best to replace Ginobili in 2 yrs when he retires but is not close to running the 2nd unit offense w/ TP, Timmy and Kawhi on the bench next year (and quite possibly the year after that). De Colo is a SG in the makes of Harden and Ginobili - just not as talented. He's not the decision maker the team needs nor will he ever be.
All those so-called guards on the team but NONE are PGs good enough to play down the stretch. I like Neal but he's no PG. The Spurs would be better served in letting Mills and Neal go and finding a quality replacement combo guard who can shoot 3s, can play defense and can handle the ball and make decisions well enough to play deep into the 3rd qtr in game 5, 6, and 7 of critical playoff games. Neal makes excellent trade bait to a team needing perimeter scoring.
I think this is a fairly strong FA class this year in terms of backup PGs. Foye, Beaubois (who only made $2.2 last year) Jarrett Jack, Shaun Livingston and quite a few others are QUALITY backup PGs - not just guards who can fill out a roster.
This past year was the BEST chance the Spurs have had in a long time to win another championship. Quite frankly, they should've won but choked it away. And, it wasn't really any 1 player or Pops fault as they all contributed to making mistakes down the stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by palangi
Going forward, the Spurs have a 2 yr window. Timmy and Manu on for another 2. After that, it's rebuilding (from the ground up) time. Not sure if CJ or Colo are up to playing quality minutes vs. Steph Curry, Chris Paul, Westbrook and the likes in the case TP gets injured or he needs to rest while the other team plays their starters. I don't see anyone on the roster who will be ready to do that within the next 2 years.
Patty Mills is a regular season player. So is Cory Joseph - neither are ever going to be anything other than small time role players that can contribute during the regular season. Hell, CJ left UT for the Pros after 1 yr because he new the incoming freshman PG was gonna take his starting spot... And, in the playoffs/Finals when 1 or 2 mistakes can make a huge difference, I don't think Pop will ever trust either to be in when a critical decision is needed.
De Colo looks the best to replace Ginobili in 2 yrs when he retires but is not close to running the 2nd unit offense w/ TP, Timmy and Kawhi on the bench next year (and quite possibly the year after that). De Colo is a SG in the makes of Harden and Ginobili - just not as talented. He's not the decision maker the team needs nor will he ever be.
All those so-called guards on the team but NONE are PGs good enough to play down the stretch. I like Neal but he's no PG. The Spurs would be better served in letting Mills and Neal go and finding a quality replacement combo guard who can shoot 3s, can play defense and can handle the ball and make decisions well enough to play deep into the 3rd qtr in game 5, 6, and 7 of critical playoff games. Neal makes excellent trade bait to a team needing perimeter scoring.
I think this is a fairly strong FA class this year in terms of backup PGs. Foye, Beaubois (who only made $2.2 last year) Jarrett Jack, Shaun Livingston and quite a few others are QUALITY backup PGs - not just guards who can fill out a roster.
How much would Landry cost?
He's talking to the Clippers for their MLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behrooz24
I think Clippers are in a position where they choose one of Landry and Barnes.
Barnes has been meeting with other teams.