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Man In Black
Curious...I point out that Livingston is 6'7" and give you a video link and yet, many of you don't see that player a viable option, why?
DeColo, needs to have the balls to shoot when he has an open shot, he hasn't shown that much, if at all, this past season. He seems to have the same tool box as Manu does, he just seems unsure of himself in using them.
Corey Joseph needs to prove that he will take that next step but with what he showed, against teams that go small and have talented wings play PG like Miami, CoJo is overmatched. I don't think Livingston will have that issue. He's still 6'7 is a very capable pick and roll player. He can go to the rim with his length and he has a pretty good jump shot plus, the guys plays solid defense.
So...why is this guy not viable again?
I'd be interested trying him in 2 "pg" set with either Nando, Manu or Cojo, but I think one thing that the FO really dislikes is that he is a guard who doesn't (can't?) shoot the 3 at all - 43 CAREER attempts (9 made). I think Livingston could blossom as a 1/2 vs a pure 1, but he needs to learn to shoot.
Sign him early to a non-guaranteed contract and give him to Chip for a summer - but he's pretty likely to get some guaranteed money elsewhere, and therefore wouldn't take it.
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Johnny RIngo
Him being a 2nd round pick is not the issue. 2nd round picks are usually busts(like Nando's proven to be). It's that we're wasting a roster spot on him and Patty Mills so they can sit on the bench. SA desperately needed a backup PG last year and they both fell short. Our D-League PG looked more NBA ready than either of those two...Even worse for Nando seeing as he's 26 and players are usually in their prime at that age. Usually, NBA teams try to bring over the best players in Europe to the NBA. Nando was never the best at anything. He was a mediocre talent in Europe - Guys like that don't have a future in the NBA
The guy was a rookie making a conversion from Euro ball. It typically takes at least a year to adjust. I'm pretty sure that was always the plan.
Stop cliff diving and give the guy a chance to play this season.
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UPDATE: Gary Neal done in SAS,Belinelli signs with Spurs for $6M/2yrs
Two situations at play:
(1) As per Jeff McDonald, they can sign Belinelli first, and then sign Manu and Tiago to get the full $5.15M MLE.
(a) move might include amnestying Bonner to make room for Belinelli
(2) Spurs be done signing and stay content with the $2.75M exception. Which means no AK47 for us unless he wants4 years making $2-4M a year.
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tesseractive
No way does Kirilenko opt out of 1 year at $10M to sign for 4 years/$22M. We'd need a sign and trade to get it done.
We spent the LLE on DeColo last year, so we don't have it to spend this year.
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Darkwaters
LLE is currently in use by Nando de Colo
Got it! I guess it would have to be for the Vet Min.
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Baam
^ why would he be in a rush to get lowballed when he can get a better role for better money later...
A better role on a worse team. He's been in the NBA sence he was 19 (11 seasons) he has only played in the WCF and his team was beaten soundly (by the Spurs). He can be a 20 minute contributor on a great team and have a great chance of winning a title. I'd imagine that at his age all he seeks is winning and a long term deal the Spurs could possibly offer both.
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Calderon would be a nice fit. Possibly out of our price range but great shooter (carer 40% 3pt) very high ast/ to T.O rate Career 7.2/1.7 a 4-1 ratio.
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so i guess tmac ain't returning if the spurs have 2 mil left huh. well there goes my tmac taking kawhi under his wing dream
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Forwards that I heard are may be available in order of Defensive WS (ignoring those out of Spurs budget).
Matt Barnes
Andrei Kirilenko
Metta World Peace
Al-Farouq Aminu
Elton Brand
Tyler Hansborough
Dorell Wright
Carl Landry
Marreese Speights
DeJuan Blair
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Re: And the MLE goes to...
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Johnny RIngo
Our D-League PG looked more NBA ready than either of those two...
ok i know i'm just being nit-picky here, and actually agree with most of what you're saying, but our "d-league point guard" was a first round pick....obviously he should be better than the 2nd round guys.
i do agree that nando probably isn't long for this league...but again, he's cheap and not signed for very long. just out of curiosity, what would you have done with that roster spot?