Meh we're getting mixed signals but I believe Woj over anyone.
07-04-2013
benefactor
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I knew this would likely happen. He's probably getting close to an MLE deal from someone.
07-04-2013
Buddy Holly
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baam
Meh we're getting mixed signals but I believe Woj over anyone.
You believe the Spurs want to carry Manu, Marco and Neal at the back up two spot?
You think the Spurs want to have 8 guards?
SMH
07-04-2013
HarlemHeat37
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Gary Neal leaving San Antonio would give me an orgasm, tbh..
:lol any team that pays Gary Neal anything substantial :lol..
07-04-2013
loveforthegame
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
See ya Neal.
07-04-2013
spurraider21
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I actually like Gary. Hope he latches on somewhere and gets a decent contract. He's served pretty well for us considering his salary in his time here.
07-04-2013
Captivus
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
If he is gone...we would just have to "Neal with it".
07-04-2013
ducks
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
24 million I bet
07-04-2013
Baam
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Gary Neal leaving San Antonio would give me an orgasm, tbh..
:lol any team that pays Gary Neal anything substantial :lol..
They are basically the same player except one hit a season saving shot and had a great Finals game tbh...
07-04-2013
Darkwaters
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
No hate for Gary Neal here. As a Summer League stand-out that signed an absolutely tiny deal, we've gotten 3 very solid years out of him. I've got nothing but love for him. Hopefully he can go somewhere and make a little cash, cause he won't get it from SA. Best regards.
07-04-2013
jestersmash
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Neal's a good guy and I will be rooting for him wherever he ends up (except of course when he plays against the Spurs).
07-04-2013
NASpurs
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Damn, no more of those awkward Splitter and Neal Ford commercials?
07-04-2013
toki9
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
"NBA Finals hero"? Is that suppose to be in blue? BTW, I think Neal has value and did well with his skill set for the Spurs. Not ragging on him, but that sounded a bit like hyperbole.
07-04-2013
Buddy Holly
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baam
They are basically the same player except one hit a season saving shot and had a great Finals game tbh...
They're basically the same player except one is taller, can play defense, can drive the ball and finish at the rim.
You know, little things.
07-04-2013
Amuseddaysleeper
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Loved Gary Neal to death, he had some clutch as hell shots during his time here.
Was everything Roger Mason should have been.
07-04-2013
slick'81
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Gary neal mle ?! Wow
07-04-2013
HarlemHeat37
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baam
They are basically the same player except one hit a season saving shot and had a great Finals game tbh...
As I said in the Beli thread, they have the same flaws, except Beli is slightly better at Neal's strengths, is taller and has a higher IQ, which is good enough for me, tbh..he also isn't a sexual predator..
07-04-2013
jestersmash
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I'm also happy that his Cinderella story panned out. Undrafted out of college. Proved himself in Europe, and ultimately came back to score probably a 3 year/$18M deal (my guess). Good for him.
07-04-2013
SpursSerb
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
He deserves to get bigger cash.I hope he does.
07-04-2013
Robz4000
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Not gonna lie, I'll miss him.
One last time...
Neal with it.
07-04-2013
024
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Neal did his role and should be applauded. He was an undrafted free agent that turned into an actual NBA player. Hit lots of big shots and his offense kept the Spurs puttering along from the bench when Ginobili had his annual injury or was too preoccupied in helping the other team win. He even won a finals game with Green for the Spurs. Pretty good for having a salary of less than $1 million.
07-04-2013
Texas_Ranger
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
always liked Neal, he made me mad as hell sometimes, but man he was clutch and not afraid.
07-04-2013
toki9
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
he also isn't a sexual predator..
Oof...unnecessary roughness there, Harlem...
07-04-2013
pad300
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Gary played 3 years for us and looked decent doing it. He played in the finals and looked OK. I expect he will get something in the $3 to $4 million range (per year), and I'm happy for him. No complaints about his time here (considering what he was paid), and I wish him best of luck in the future... but I'm not complaining that it's not SA giving him that $3 or $4 million per year.
07-04-2013
benefactor
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Not gonna lie, I'll miss him.
One last time...
Neal with it.
Yup...gonna miss yelling choo choo when he was in rape mode.
07-04-2013
HarlemHeat37
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..
07-04-2013
Brunodf
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Gary Neal leaving San Antonio would give me an orgasm, tbh..
:lol any team that pays Gary Neal anything substantial :lol..
This
07-04-2013
loveforthegame
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
No hate here but not going to say I'll miss him either.
He provided some clutch shots and had a decent run while here. But he wasn't going to improve and he was a defensive liability.
Wish him nothing but the best with his new team. Time to move on for both parties.
07-04-2013
toki9
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..
Felt similarly...although the plantar fasciitis and playing for a first decent contract in his life were mitigating factors (in his defense)...but he was borderline irrational confidence guy at times, especially once SJack was booted...
07-04-2013
ducks
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
wonder if his contract will be more then jr smith
07-04-2013
Robz4000
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by benefactor
Yup...gonna miss yelling choo choo when he was in rape mode.
:cry
07-04-2013
ohmwrecker
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Fantastic news. Huge upgrade.
07-04-2013
slick'81
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Gl neal u played damn wel for a undrafted player.will remember u hitting big shots in the finals and the funny way u tried to play defense
07-04-2013
DPG21920
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
No way Gary gets a full MLE deal. No way. No need to bash Neal. He did so much more than many guys in his spot before him. He did way more good than bad and he came out of no where for most Spurs fans.
07-04-2013
bigfan
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
If this is the end of Gary Neal as a Spur, Ill just say thanks. He came out of nowhere and handled the load pretty damn well considering. He was a damn good shooter that wasnt afraid of the spotlight. He wasnt so hot on defense but so what? Top it off he was a good teammate and wasnt in any serious shit during his time here. If he's going, I hope he gets a big contract someplace in the East.
07-04-2013
therealtruth
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
No one is talking about how it makes us better defensively, addition by subtraction. No longer seeing Gary Neal in noman's land and his man knocking down a 3 pointer.
07-04-2013
Baam
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
No way Gary gets a full MLE deal. No way. No need to bash Neal. He did so much more than many guys in his spot before him. He did way more good than bad and he came out of no where for most Spurs fans.
Exactly guy was paid chump change, like 800k and was absolutely incredible for us.
07-04-2013
Keepin' it real
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Neal was very good for San Antonio. If nothing else, when the Spurs lost in the first round to Memphis in 2011, his shot saved the Spurs from being eliminated at home in 5 games to the #8 seed. That matters a lot .. no one wants to get eliminated at home. He helped the Spurs save face in front of the home crowd.
I think he'll have a bounce-back season next year since he's bound to be healthier than he was this year. I hope he doesn't go to a contending team, because he'll come back to haunt San Antonio with some clutch shooting.
07-04-2013
pookenstein
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwaters
No hate for Gary Neal here. As a Summer League stand-out that signed an absolutely tiny deal, we've gotten 3 very solid years out of him. I've got nothing but love for him. Hopefully he can go somewhere and make a little cash, cause he won't get it from SA. Best regards.
This.
07-04-2013
HI-FI
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
count me in the "will miss Neal but hope he gets paid better elsewhere" category. He did so much stupid shit, but he was fearless at scoring and had some great moments for us while getting paid very little. I appreciate what he was able to do for us and hope he gets a good paycheck.
07-04-2013
Mal
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Real backup PG, love it
07-04-2013
Mel_13
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
Real backup PG, love it
Who are you talking about?
07-04-2013
Mal
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
Who are you talking about?
Whoever. With Neal gone, Spurs will need one.
07-04-2013
AFBlue
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Neal WAY outperformed his contract for sure. The guy can make a shot from anywhere on the court and has more "junk" in his game than any Spur outside Tim and Manu. His defense was horrid most of the time, but he gave the team a big lift off the bench and will be rewarded with his next deal.
Good luck to him.
07-04-2013
manufan10
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Neal with it.
07-04-2013
Darkwaters
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by toki9
"NBA Finals hero"? Is that suppose to be in blue? BTW, I think Neal has value and did well with his skill set for the Spurs. Not ragging on him, but that sounded a bit like hyperbole.
Seriously, ya'll motherfuckers forget so easily.
2013 NBA Finals, Game 3. Yes, he was pretty fucking important in that win.
07-04-2013
tmtcsc
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I hope Neal is back with the Spurs. When he got hot, he was awesome. He's a better offensive player than Green but Green plays much better D. Way too much hate going on for Neal.
07-04-2013
Big P
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Bet he signs with the Cavs.
07-04-2013
FkLA
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Will miss and always remember my nigga Gary 'balls of steel' Neal tbh. He had his flaws but niggas as fearless as him are hard to find, especially for 800k a year.
07-04-2013
ohmwrecker
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HI-FI
count me in the "will miss Neal but hope he gets paid better elsewhere" category. He did so much stupid shit, but he was fearless at scoring and had some great moments for us while getting paid very little. I appreciate what he was able to do for us and hope he gets a good paycheck.
Gary Neal was a feast or famine guy. When he was on, he was great, but I won't miss the turnovers, bad rotations and bad shooting nights. If Neal wasn't sinking 3s, he was pretty much useless. Belli can replace what Neal had (fearless, clutch shots) plus a longer body, slightly better d and better handles. So long, Choo Choo. Thanks for the memories.
07-04-2013
#1spursfanNvegas
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Spurs "fans" getting what they ask for... I hope Gary doesnt kill us everytime he plays against the Spurs.
07-04-2013
ohmwrecker
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
double
07-04-2013
ducks
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
tp will torch his sorry d
07-04-2013
G-Dawgg
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
You guys are nuts if you think Belinelli would be a better defender, playmaker or better at creating shots for himself.
07-04-2013
spursince#99
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
No hate from Gary Neal here. Considering the small salary, the fact that he carved a career out of nothing, and the fact that he had mad confidence? I'm a fan regardless of the bad play from time to time. I'll miss him indeed. He was an inspiration. He was a living testimony for the cliche phrase, "you can achieve anything you want to achieve if you set your mind to it." Ball out homie you deserve it for real.
07-04-2013
ohmwrecker
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Dawgg
You guys are nuts if you think Belinelli would be a better defender, playmaker or better at creating shots for himself.
Explain.
07-04-2013
spurraider21
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Even though Green made more 3's, I thought Neal's game 3 was more impressive than green's. It felt like Green hit all his shots when the game was out of hand, but it was Neal who was hitting bomb after bomb to give us the big lead in the first place
07-04-2013
spursince#99
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Dawgg
You guys are nuts if you think Belinelli would be a better defender, playmaker or better at creating shots for himself.
He is a much better passer, and he is much better at creating his own shot. Watch some film before you post.
07-04-2013
spursince#99
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Will miss and always remember my nigga Gary 'balls of steel' Neal tbh. He had his flaws but niggas as fearless as him are hard to find, especially for 800k a year.
:lol
07-04-2013
therealtruth
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
I hope Neal is back with the Spurs. When he got hot, he was awesome. He's a better offensive player than Green but Green plays much better D. Way too much hate going on for Neal.
Defense wins championships so Green is more valuable.
07-04-2013
FkLA
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.
07-04-2013
tmtcsc
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
:toast
07-04-2013
UZER
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I liked Neal. He was a gamer for his limited skill set.
All in all, he did well for the Spurs and I don't fault him for his bad back up point play. He's not a point guard, but was asked to play point guard in the NBA.
07-04-2013
Baam
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.
He could do everything on the offensive game, very underrated I agree.
07-04-2013
G-Dawgg
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
:/
07-04-2013
SanDiegoSpursFan
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
He was good enough at his price. I'll definitely miss him, he made some great shots. The one to send the Clippers game into overtime made my day.
07-04-2013
playblair
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
favorite neal moment .................
07-04-2013
spursince#99
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.
07-04-2013
G-Dawgg
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I live in Canada and watched him play on the Raptors regularly. I did watch him play this year also. He is not that great. He can pass a bit but As far as creatung shots, meh...
07-04-2013
Darkwaters
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by playblair
favorite neal moment .................
Wow, I had totally forgotten that moment. Great post playblair.
Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.
He could do a lot, but his preferred play is taking a long, contested jumper.
07-04-2013
G-Dawgg
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
I've watched Belinelli play alot. There is no doubt he is a good shooter but offensively he isn't as fearless as Neal and he sure isn't a huge upgrade defensively. I just don't think he's an improvement. I'd rather see Neal back or an upgrade tbh..
Neal has finals experience and corporate knowledge. No sense in getting rid of him for Belinelli imo..
07-04-2013
TD 21
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..
He definitely was, but conveniently the vast majority ignored the fact that his calf strain and plantar fasciitis were the primary reasons for that. For two plus seasons, he proved he was one of the best shooters in the league and a sixth man caliber scorer and that's generally worth the MLE.
Shows his all-around game, with the little runner and the mid-range pull up. Damn Im gonna miss my nigga Gary. :cry
07-04-2013
Spurious
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
He definitely was, but conveniently the vast majority ignored the fact that his calf strain and plantar fasciitis were the primary reasons for that. For two plus seasons, he proved he was one of the best shooters in the league and a sixth man caliber scorer and that's generally worth the MLE.
I was thrilled when this guy made the roster, seemingly out of nowhere. At the time, it was hailed as yet another SA front office coup to dig up an undrafted guy who could contribute on a contender. And that's what he did. Well or hurt, highly paid or playing for peanuts, from a basketball perspective it really doesn't matter in the end. He made a positive contribution in many ways and beat the odds to do so. I'm not quite sure how so many of these armchair GMs think he can be faulted for doing what he did to the best of his ability. I hope Gary has a long and fruitful career, wherever he ends up.
07-04-2013
KL2
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Worst defender in he entire NBA, couldn't run the point for shit, took terrible shots, and made stupid fouls almost always leading to and 1's. Spurs just got a whole lot better with Belli's signing, especially defensively.
07-04-2013
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Too bad Bel has just as bad D
07-04-2013
Darkwaters
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KL2
Worst defender in he entire NBA, couldn't run the point for shit, took terrible shots, and made stupid fouls almost always leading to and 1's. Spurs just got a whole lot better with Belli's signing, especially defensively.
Haters gonna hate
07-04-2013
davidbowie
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Garrryyyyy noooooooooo!!!!!!!!
:depressed
07-04-2013
dylankerouac
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Good luck to Neal if he ships out. He was good and extremely affordable while he was here.
07-04-2013
timvp
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
How did Neal get so underrated by Spurs fans at the end? Odd, tbh. Biggest reason why the Spurs are seemingly letting him go is because SG is the deepest position on the team. There's just no way to justify another multi-year contract at that position. What Belinelli got was about the most the Spurs could pay.
Neal gave the Spurs outstanding performance for the money they paid him.
If this is the end, thanks :tu
07-04-2013
TheGreatYacht
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
^Manu signifies the end. If he would have taken less money, the Spurs could have signed someone better than Belinelli. I can understand Tiago Splitter not wanting to sacrifice any $$$ because he's younger and it's his first shot at big $$$. But Manu? He was the one who should have sacrificed more.
07-04-2013
KL2
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwaters
Haters gonna hate
He was great last year but this year he was crap, I wish the best for him though, hope he gets paid after being severely underpaid.
If he doesn't stay, all I can do is wish him luck.
He had great moments as a Spur. I will never forget tha 3-pointer against Memphis.
Not his fault he was asked to play as a PG tbh.
07-04-2013
PlayNando
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
GOOD BYE HERO.
Tbh, for the price I can't really complain about him, though.
07-04-2013
TheGreatYacht
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
If he doesn't stay, all I can do is wish him luck.
He had great moments as a Spur. I will never forget tha 3-pointer against Memphis.
Not his fault he was asked to play as a PG tbh.
I will miss Gary Neal too. I agree with your comment. I'll never forget his Game 3 performance alongside Danny Green.
07-04-2013
toki9
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
How did Neal get so underrated by Spurs fans at the end? Odd, tbh. Biggest reason why the Spurs are seemingly letting him go is because SG is the deepest position on the team. There's just no way to justify another multi-year contract at that position. What Belinelli got was about the most the Spurs could pay.
Neal gave the Spurs outstanding performance for the money they paid him.
If this is the end, thanks :tu
Probably due to unrealistic/unforgiving expectations about what players can/should do...Neal was great for what he was asked to do--particularly at the salary he was paid...we should all wish him luck and hope he had a huge payday...
07-04-2013
TheGreatYacht
Re: Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.
All you Spurs fans that were hating on my boy Gary Neal throughout the playoffs because of his defense and shot selection, well you got your wishes handled to you. "You don't know what you have until you lose it." I've seen people hate on Danny Green yet he's making half the $$$ that Redick, Kevin Martin, and Kyle Korver are. But you'll are ok with Manu getting over paid when he's way past his prime? Shame on you.