If healthy, Ginobili will play for Team Argentina at 2014 Basketball World Cup

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Originally Posted by DJR210

Should have put a "no FIBA" clause in that faggot's contract.

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They can't

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Originally Posted by silverblk mystix

lol

Don't worry about what small minds say - they only feel secure in numbers...

Someone wise once said;

Every great truth started out as a blasphemy!

Truth is always hated - not because it is wrong - but because it is new.


Later on - they will see it and go...."oh shit - he was right !" lmao (but they won't admit they were wrong either - in here anyway)

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So are you that infamous SBM that some people have been comparing me too?

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

HELLO???? ARE YOU FUC*ING BLIND? TONY PARKER GOT HURT THROUGHOUT THE SEASON INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS. PAU GASOL WAS INJURED FOR MOST OF THE SEASON. KOBE GOT HIS ACHILLES TORN. LEBRON IS A FREAK OF NATURE. MARC GASOL IS YOUNG. MANU IS VERRRYYYYY OLD! Put all you hatred towards me aside for a little bit and use common sense.

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Yeah all those injuries occurred due to them competing in FIBA. LOL, you need to get a grip. You sound so ignorant. However, none of them get exemptions and you just happen to trash the guy you've been trashing the entire time you've been up here? I know 100% sure you're a troll now.

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Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB

Yeah all those injuries occurred due to them competing in FIBA. LOL, you need to get a grip. You sound so ignorant. However, none of them get exemptions and you just happen to trash the guy you've been trashing the entire time you've been up here? I know 100% sure you're a troll now.

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LMAO, you're the ignorant one for letting your homerism consume you.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

So are you that infamous SBM that some people have been comparing me too?

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It is what they do - they gang up when threatened with truth. They feel if 10 of them call someone an idiot - it must be true.

They are pissed because they are satisfied with 4 titles and feel more than blessed to even have these four. I feel that with Timmy - the Spurs should have 6-7-8 titles - were it not for Pop. They are butthurt because I criticised Pop.

How dare I want more titles and how dare I demand the spurs to be better and win more titles. This is a small market team and we are damn lucky to have 4 - you are an idiot for questioning Pop!

Pathetic.

Don't pay attention to them - they are happy and satisfied with the past.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/wp-co...stgetalong.jpg

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Originally Posted by ElNono

5. He told the NT coach he won't play in the World Cup qualification competition this summer

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He knew the Spurs would tell him to fuck off if he did.

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Originally Posted by DMX7

He knew the Spurs would tell him to fuck off if he did.

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Lol yeah that's what would happen LOL

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Originally Posted by DMX7

He knew the Spurs would tell him to fuck off if he did.

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link?

Hyperbole of course... but if you think Pop would have been stoked about that idea, then think again.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

They can't

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So you can place a "no motorcycle" (Jay Williams) clause in a contract, but you can't put in clause to control extra play? Where can I verify this madness?

do you have Manu in your saved Google searches. You are obsessed! He is taking over your daily existence.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Once again, that as*hole contemplating on shit*ing the Spurs again. You'll wonder why I don't like the guy? He can't even respect the company that pays his bills.

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Originally Posted by DJR210

So you can place a "no motorcycle" (Jay Williams) clause in a contract, but you can't put in clause to control extra play? Where can I verify this madness?

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It's true. It goes back to the decision to let NBA players play in the Olympics. The NBA entered into formal agreements with FIBA. Under those agreements, NBA players are allowed to play for their national teams in FIBA tournaments. So, no contract provisions to limit that play is possible. Teams are also not allowed to make an effort to discourage players from playing in these tournaments. Despite the adverse affect on individual teams, the NBA as a corporate entity has made the decision that having NBA players in FIBA tournaments is good for business.

From Larry Coons CBA FAQ:

The NBA’s agreement with FIBA also requires NBA teams to allow their players to play for their national teams in major FIBA competitions, including the European Championships, the World Championships and the Olympics, as long as the competition does not conflict with an NBA game and the player is adequately insured. NBA teams can’t take any steps to dissuade their players from participating in such competitions, such as asking their players not to participate or making public statements suggesting they do not want their players to play in these competitions.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

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Originally Posted by DJR210

So you can place a "no motorcycle" (Jay Williams) clause in a contract, but you can't put in clause to control extra play? Where can I verify this madness?

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The CBA:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm


74. What are the rules relating to international players and teams?

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The NBA’s agreement with FIBA also requires NBA teams to allow their players to play for their national teams in major FIBA competitions, including the European Championships, the World Championships and the Olympics, as long as the competition does not conflict with an NBA game and the player is adequately insured. NBA teams can’t take any steps to dissuade their players from participating in such competitions, such as asking their players not to participate or making public statements suggesting they do not want their players to play in these competitions.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

It's true. It goes back to the decision to let NBA players play in the Olympics. The NBA entered into formal agreements with FIBA. Under those agreements, NBA players are allowed to play for their national teams in FIBA tournaments. So, no contract provisions to limit that play is possible. Teams are also not allowed to make an effort to discourage players from playing in these tournaments. Despite the adverse affect on individual teams, the NBA as a corporate entity has made the decision that having NBA players in FIBA tournaments is good for business.

From Larry Coons CBA FAQ:

The NBA’s agreement with FIBA also requires NBA teams to allow their players to play for their national teams in major FIBA competitions, including the European Championships, the World Championships and the Olympics, as long as the competition does not conflict with an NBA game and the player is adequately insured. NBA teams can’t take any steps to dissuade their players from participating in such competitions, such as asking their players not to participate or making public statements suggesting they do not want their players to play in these competitions.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

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Wow, that's crazy. I had no idea. Are FIBA or the teams themselves compensating the NBA for that?

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Originally Posted by DJR210

Wow, that's crazy. I had no idea. Are FIBA or the teams themselves compensating the NBA for that?

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Players are required to obtain insurance on behalf of their teams before participating. Failure to obtain insurance prevents FIBA from authorizing the player.

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Originally Posted by DJR210

Wow, that's crazy. I had no idea. Are FIBA or the teams themselves compensating the NBA for that?

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I believe that NBA generally covers the cost of insurance, but there have been cases where players have some pre-existing condition that isn't covered. Then the National Federation has to pay for a separate policy. That happened with Luol Deng in 2012.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

I believe that NBA generally covers the cost of insurance, but there have been cases where players have some pre-existing condition that isn't covered. Then the National Federation has to pay for a separate policy. That happened with Luol Deng in 2012.

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AFAIK, that's not correct. National Federations have to pay for the insurance. At least, in the case of Argentina, that's always been the case.

Obviously, players not under an NBA contract are free to do as they please at their own risk.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

AFAIK, that's not correct. National Federations have to pay for the insurance. At least, in the case of Argentina, that's always been the case.

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OK. I just remember the whole business with Deng. It was a huge amount of money and there was some doubt whether the British Federation could come up with the money.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

OK. I just remember the whole business with Deng. It was a huge amount of money and there was some doubt whether the British Federation could come up with the money.

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That's normally what happens when players are hurt... sometimes these insurances can be a lot of dough. I recall ARG needing to secure a couple extra sponsors to be able to afford them when a bunch of their dudes were in the NBA.

Here's an article about Deng. I assumed that this was an exception and that players were normally covered by their NBA policy as they participated in an event sanctioned under their player contract:

The Chicago Bulls star forward should not be at these Olympics. The ligaments in his left wrist are damaged. The Bulls think the injury is bad enough that Deng should have surgery. They wanted him to have the operation at season's end so he would be ready for all of next season. He also has a sore back. And this is a concern to the Bulls as well. By playing in these Olympics he could ruin his career and perhaps even Chicago's coming season.

Great Britain's basketball federation had to take out an insurance policy on Deng in the Olympics just so the Bulls would let him play. Several British media outlets have reported the cost of that policy to be 300,000 pounds, which is roughly $472,000. Because basketball is not an important sport in England, the basketball federation does not have a great deal of money. A 300,000-pound insurance premium is a lot. The head of Britain's federation thought long and hard about spending that much money before finally deciding to accept the bill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lu...o-britain.html

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Here's an article about Deng. I assumed that this was an exception and that players were normally covered by their NBA policy as they participated in an event sanctioned under their player contract:

The Chicago Bulls star forward should not be at these Olympics. The ligaments in his left wrist are damaged. The Bulls think the injury is bad enough that Deng should have surgery. They wanted him to have the operation at season's end so he would be ready for all of next season. He also has a sore back. And this is a concern to the Bulls as well. By playing in these Olympics he could ruin his career and perhaps even Chicago's coming season.

Great Britain's basketball federation had to take out an insurance policy on Deng in the Olympics just so the Bulls would let him play. Several British media outlets have reported the cost of that policy to be 300,000 pounds, which is roughly $472,000. Because basketball is not an important sport in England, the basketball federation does not have a great deal of money. A 300,000-pound insurance premium is a lot. The head of Britain's federation thought long and hard about spending that much money before finally deciding to accept the bill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lu...o-britain.html

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I have not heard teams waiving the insurance requirement, but it's a possibility. I know the Spurs specifically are adamant about that. It wasn't just with Argentina players. Tony and Tiago both had stated they wouldn't be able to play if not insured.

Here's an article from 2011 about that:
http://www.projectspurs.com/2011-art...insurance.html

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I have not heard teams waiving the insurance requirement, but it's a possibility. I know the Spurs specifically are adamant about that. It wasn't just with Argentina players. Tony and Tiago both had stated they wouldn't be able to play if not insured.

Here's an article from 2011 about that:
http://www.projectspurs.com/2011-art...insurance.html

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thanks

tangina wag pls