Spurs reach agreement with Jeff Pendergraph (Report: 2 Year, ~$4 million)

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Originally Posted by Libri

IIRC, this is the most activity the Spurs have had since a long time. There's actually something to talk about this summer.

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Yeah, I'm sure signing Marco Belinelli, Jeff Pendergraph, and wasting all our cap space to resign Manu and Splitter is A WHOLE LOT to talk about. SMH @ Spurs homers.

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Originally Posted by CGD

I asked this above but didn't get a clear answer: in this scenario, if the spurs stay under the cap AND s&t Neal for whatever Neal's new salary would be (minus adjustments for any players send out like Nando), can the TE received in return be applied to AK's deal?

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No (except in the unlikely event where AK47's salary is equal or less than the TE generated by trading Neal). TE's can't be combined with other TE's, other exceptions, or cap space. A player acquired in exchange for a TE has to have a salary that fits within the value of the TE plus 100K.

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Originally Posted by weebo

Maybe so but they still need someone who can come in and match up physically with guys like Durant, Lebron, etc. I can see Manu, Green, Beli and even Diaw playing a few minutes at the SF position. Still, they need someone long enough who can at least give these guys a hand to shoot over.

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No one like that is available.

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Originally Posted by T Park

No one like that is available.

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it would defintiely have to be a trade at this point

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Originally Posted by Darkwaters

Technically yes. But only if Kirilenko's deal is equal to or less than Neal's deal. So the likelihood of that is basically 0%.

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I was thinking more of a three team thing or two separate deals. S&t Neal to pistons for example (who have-cap-space btw) generates a 4M TE (plus anything else spurs include like Nando). Then in a separate deal two Minni where Spurs use the TE plus what even cap space they have left after signing either Belli or Pende with capspace.

Damn, under that scenario Holt wouldn't even need to amnesty bonner right?

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

No (except in the unlikely event where AK47's salary is equal or less than the TE generated by trading Neal). TE's can't be combined with other TE's, other TEs, other exceptions, or cap space. A player acquired in exchange for a TE has to have a salary that fits within the value of the TE plus 100K.

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OK I get it now. So whatever the spurs receive in return for Neal is what they are limited to using on another player.

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Originally Posted by Darius McCrary

We added a young lanky pf, who more than likely is an improvement over Blair, and will also more than likely help man the ship when Pop babies Duncan and/or Tiago next season. Having decent players on the bench can help us win a few more games, which could possible mean a 1 seed, which is a major factor of us losing in the finals.

I'm more worried about the Marco signing than this.

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I fell better about Marco just for the fact that Manu injuries are starting to catch up to him so we needed insurance.

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Originally Posted by 2centsworth

I like the touch a lot. This pick-up actually excites me. Spurs can develop talent like no other. Guy has, don't laugh, David West potential.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by raybies

Who else falls in that 5-7 milliion range besides him?

I think your on to something, but i think the bigger need is a backup pg with Marco and Manu. I would think Jarret Jack or Monta Ellis before AK47. Although no interest has been reported on Jack, Monta there has. Gary to Milwaukee in a sign and trade with others could work. Don't see them dealing with Golden State.
Who knows with Jack though it could just happen like Marco and Jeff. After what happened with Golden State and that abandonment a nice family organization might work for him.;) Years might be the problem though with the FO's desire for 2 year deals.

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Jarrett Jack would be nice.

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Originally Posted by CGD

OK I get it now. So whatever the spurs receive in return for Neal is what they are limited to using on another player.

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Yes. Most of what you may ever want to know about TEs can be found here:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q83

Never heard of this guy

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Originally Posted by Bruno

If Spurs are really after Kirilenko, Belinelli for the room exception and Pendergraph for the minimum would make a damn lot of sense.

Spurs would lose Neal and likely another guard like De Colo or Mills, so adding a SG like Belinelli would be logical. With Kirilenko not being a shooter, Belinelli shooting would be more than welcomed.
Pendergraph would be added to compensate Bonner being amnestied.

That's the weirdest about this offseason. While Spurs have done a lot of moves, it's really impossible to say if they have still their biggest move still to do.

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And there's no reason it would have to be Kirilenko. Spurs can take back up to $8M salary just for Bonner and DeColo, both of which are expiring contracts. So really, it could be any SF we like. Pendergraph guarantees that we can afford to lose Bonner, and we now have a ridiculous 7 guards on the roster, which is a bizarre way to go into the season.

And if we were willing to put Danny on the trade block, we could take back up to $12M in salary, which opens up a ton of options, and might be an appealing packing for a team that needed shooting.

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

And there's no reason it would have to be Kirilenko. Spurs can take back up to $8M salary just for Bonner and DeColo, both of which are expiring contracts. So really, it could be any SF we like. Pendergraph guarantees that we can afford to lose Bonner, and we now have a ridiculous 7 guards on the roster, which is a bizarre way to go into the season.

And if we were willing to put Danny on the trade block, we could take back up to $12M in salary, which opens up a ton of options, and might be an appealing packing for a team that needed shooting.

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Nope, FO would never give up Danny Green when we have him at half the price that Kyle Korver, Kevin Martin, and JJ Redick are earning. FO would have to be morons to even think about trading Danny Green, unless it were for a franchise player like Durant or LBJ.

No to Kirilenko. His defense isn't good and that seems to e huge sticking point with many posters and he's injury prone. The guys missed atleat 15 games in each of his last three seasons. He also doesn't rebound or block shots.

This guy has a history of knees problems.

It might be impossible to tell for sure Bruno, but when timvp alluded to the fact that he got more than the minimum, on a multi-year deal, coming off an ACL injury and having not yet proved himself in the league . . . well, suffice it to say, that doesn't bode well for this being for the minimum either.

If not Kirilenko, they should sign Wesley Johnson. Knowing them though, it'll probably be Gelabale, Ingles, etc.

I'm surprised the Pacers let Pendergraph go, because I remember Vogel raving about how he was their second best mid range shooting big man (after West) late in the season and at that point, he was neck and neck with Mahinmi for backup center minutes. With Hansbrough gone, even if they view Copeland as their backup power forward, it doesn't make sense to not re-sign him for insurance purposes . . . which is all the more reason to think this wasn't for the minimum.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Nope, FO would never give up Danny Green when we have him at half the price that Kyle Korver, Kevin Martin, and JJ Redick are earning. FO would have to be morons to even think about trading Danny Green, unless it were for a franchise player like Durant or LBJ.

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Their window for winning titles is two more years, so it makes sense to try upgrades, even if they strain the cap. If, say, Portland were willing to part with Batum, it could be worth making the trade. Batum is an upgrade to Green, he can play the 2 in the starting lineup, and he's a completely legit 3 if we want to play smallball -- slide Kawhi over to the 4, start Manu, and you have a really nice smallball squad.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

No to Kirilenko. His defense isn't good and that seems to e huge sticking point with many posters and he's injury prone. The guys missed atleat 15 games in each of his last three seasons. He also doesn't rebound or block shots.

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Sure, lets trade Danny Green so that we can acquire Kirilenko. Then we can insert 36 yr old Manu into the starting lineup or Marco B who's an even worst defender than Green. Or we can start Kirilenko at PF and move 38 yr old Duncan to the Center position. I love it!

Yeah he made what 1.5 boy Ihope spurs didn't split mle with him N belli

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

Their window for winning titles is two more years, so it makes sense to try upgrades, even if they strain the cap. If, say, Portland were willing to part with Batum, it could be worth making the trade. Batum is an upgrade to Green, he can play the 2 in the starting lineup, and he's a completely legit 3 if we want to play smallball -- slide Kawhi over to the 4, start Manu, and you have a really nice smallball squad.

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The defense? Don't forget that playing Tiago Splitter alongside Tim Duncan is what got us to the NBA finals. Playing small ball would be playing into the hands of GSW, OKC, or the Heat. Playing small ball is what allowed the Heat to win it all even though we were only 28 seconds away from winning it too. The Heat imposed their will on us.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Someone that criticizes the Spurs = Troll

Nice one genius.

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There's plenty of people who criticize the Spurs that I don't call a troll.

You just don't happen to be one of them.

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Originally Posted by manufan10

There's plenty of people who criticize the Spurs that I don't call a troll.

You just don't happen to be one of them.

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Oh ok. Wow, you just hurt my feelings. I'm gonna get depressed now.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

The defense? Don't forget playing Tiago Splitter alongside Tim Duncan is what got us to the NBA finals. Playing small ball would be playing into the hands of GSW, OKC, or the Heat. Playing small ball is what allowed the Heat to win it all even though we were only 28 seconds away from winning it too. The Heat imposed their will on us.

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Right, but the base lineup with Batum at the 2 doesn't hurt the defense, and should help the offense. And we play smallball at times to match up with other teams anyway -- so if we're going to play it anyway, we might as well be as good as possible at it.

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Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil

Typical McDonald



:lol

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And now the E-N wants people to pay for McDonald's writings.

I hope Brandan Wright isn't signed elsewhere for an equal amount. Shouldn't happen, but you never know.