Spurs reach agreement with Jeff Pendergraph (Report: 2 Year, ~$4 million)

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Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger

So much money and they got even worse. And still no backup SF, but like 100 guards on the team.

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Yeah the depressing part was all the cap space they had... If there didn't have any flexibity we'd obviously feel good about the off season...

Goes to show that favoritism is never good for the well-being of a team. I mean what were the chances that we would have signed Pendergraph so soon if we had not brought in his assistant coach? I say zero.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Goes to show that favoritism is never good for the well-being of a team. I mean what were the chances that we would have signed Pendergraph so soon if we had not brought in his assistant coach? I say zero.

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Danny Ferry and Danny Green say hi.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Danny Ferry and Danny Green say hi.

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Entirely different situation.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Entirely different situation.

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Not from where I sit.

I knew there was no way it was going to be a min deal. It made no sense to believe that. Its quite possible the Spurs still are capable of bringing in another player in the same range as Pendergraph and Bellinelli if they amnesty Bonner and move one of the point guards. It actually really makes sense to do this.

The Spurs may have been interested in AK but it also appears as though they had no desire to do anything but 2 year deals. No way AK was going to go for a 2 year deal.

Two years, $4 million for Pendergraph? Not terrible by itself but, damn, offseason basically over.

I'm assuming Spurs saved enough money in the MLE to sign another player at some point to a long-term contract if they shine in summer league, d-league, etc.

SA has been interested in AK for years now. I just cannot understand why a franchise that is so smart and successful keep overpaying scrubs in resigning and keep fools like Bonner. Seriously this is a mind fuck.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Not from where I sit.

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Green was picked up during the season. Green was not given a questionable deal that hurts the Spurs chances of getting another player.

Please make some bigger move,or this offseason is going to seriously suck!

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Green was picked up during the season. Green was not given a questionable deal that hurts the Spurs chances of getting another player.

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It's only your opinion that the deal is questionable or that it hurts the Spurs in any way. Not facts.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

It's only your opinion that the deal is questionable or that it hurts the Spurs in any way. Not facts.

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In fact, the deal is questionable. Most of this board didn't even know who he was, and the Spurs throw him some MLE money when he didn't even seem to have a market. Why?

Whether it hurts the Spurs in any way, I guess that will remain to be seen. Prove me wrong, Pendergraph.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

In fact, the deal is questionable. Most of this board didn't even know who he was, and the Spurs throw him some MLE money when he didn't even seem to have a market. Why?

Whether it hurts the Spurs in any way, I guess that will remain to be seen. Prove me wrong, Pendergraph.

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So, it's questionable in the opinion of many on this board. Still not fact.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I knew there was no way it was going to be a min deal. It made no sense to believe that.

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Yeah, it was a stretch to think a young big would sign for the minimum before seeing how the dominoes fell.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Its quite possible the Spurs still are capable of bringing in another player in the same range as Pendergraph and Bellinelli if they amnesty Bonner and move one of the point guards. It actually really makes sense to do this.

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Eh, disagree. It doesn't make sense to eat Bonner's $4 million to sign a player that is worth a few million. They'd basically have to pay double for whoever they'd want in that range ... and that's not going to happen. There's no $3-5M player out there worth $7-9M.

PG: Parker, Joseph, De Colo, Mills
SG: Green, Ginobili, Belinelli, De Colo, Mills
SF: Leonard, Ginobili, Green, Diaw
PF: Duncan, Diaw, Bonner, Leonard, Pendergraph
C: Splitter, Duncan, Baynes, Pendergraph

Need good growth from Leonard and CJ -- and probably one more surprise player to emerge -- but fine.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Yeah, it was a stretch to think a young big would sign for the minimum before seeing how the dominoes fell.


Eh, disagree. It doesn't make sense to eat Bonner's $4 million to sign a player that is worth a few million. They'd basically have to pay double for whoever they'd want in that range ... and that's not going to happen. There's no $3-5M player out there worth $7-9M.

PG: Parker, Joseph, De Colo, Mills
SG: Green, Ginobili, Belinelli, De Colo, Mills
SF: Leonard, Ginobili, Green, Diaw
PF: Duncan, Diaw, Bonner, Leonard, Pendergraph
C: Splitter, Duncan, Baynes, Pendergraph

Need good growth from Leonard and CJ -- and probably one more surprise player to emerge -- but fine.

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Danny Green adding a floater or anything inside the arc + Splitter not shrinking during the playoffs would have a colossal impact on this team IMO..

:( $7M for a tosb "competitor" that doesn't know when to call it quits
:( $9M for a role player "big" that shrinks to the occasion
:( Not taking advantage of potentially significant cap space to upgrade in key roles
:( Only potential upgrade is to bench scorer and fifth big role
:( Foolishly counting on no regression from last season's stars

If I felt like the Spurs had as good a chance at being back next year as they were to winning it all this year, then this offseason really isn't a disappointment. But, I just can't...there are too many questions and too much potential progression with other teams in the west.

As a Spurs fan, I truly hope Duncan and Parker maintain, Kawhi continues his breakout, Ginobili breaks out of the funk, Splitter grows a pair, Belinelli is above-replacement for Neal, and time in the system provides progression for the second-year players. That's the only way I see the Spurs being back, and unfortunately I'm just not confident in it at this point.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

It's only your opinion that the deal is questionable or that it hurts the Spurs in any way. Not facts.

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I agree that in a bubble 2-years and $4 million for Pendergraph is fine. Maybe even a good deal. And since we don't know when exactly the Spurs plan shift away from using cap space (although we can guess it occurred when Ginobili asked for market value), it's unfair to point to the Pendergraph deal as what is keeping the Spurs from trying to make more of a splash.

If you're shopping for a big and you only want to spend $2M, Pendergraph is about as good as you're going to get. By comparison, he got one-fourth of the amount of money Mahinmi got last summer ... and Mahinmi's resume was equally as empty.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

So, it's questionable in the opinion of many on this board. Still not fact.

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You are being unreasonable just for the sake of being unreasonable.

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Originally Posted by Brutalis

SA has been interested in AK for years now. I just cannot understand why a franchise that is so smart and successful keep overpaying scrubs in resigning and keep fools like Bonner. Seriously this is a mind fuck.

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You've answered your question tbh.....

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

:( $7M for a tosb "competitor" that doesn't know when to call it quits
:( $9M for a role player "big" that shrinks to the occasion
:( Not taking advantage of potentially significant cap space to upgrade in key roles
:( Only potential upgrade is to bench scorer and fifth big role
:( Foolishly counting on no regression from last season's stars

If I felt like the Spurs had as good a chance at being back next year as they were to winning it all this year, then this offseason really isn't a disappointment. But, I just can't...there are too many questions and too much potential progression with other teams in the west.

As a Spurs fan, I truly hope Duncan and Parker maintain, Kawhi continues his breakout, Ginobili breaks out of the funk, Splitter grows a pair, Belinelli is above-replacement for Neal, and time in the system provides progression for the second-year players. That's the only way I see the Spurs being back, and unfortunately I'm just not confident in it at this point.

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Same feelings I had last year after the WCF. They always have a way of surprising us.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

You are being unreasonable just for the sake of being unreasonable.

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:lol

Argumentative, not unreasonable.

For what it's worth, I have some friends who are Pacers fans. They were not real happy with Pendergraph.

The good news is that the underwhelming offseasons usually lead to better than expected seasons. The "great" offseasons lead to disappointment.

Not sure why it works that way but that's been the pattern for the Spurs in the Duncan era.

Never addressed the back up SF issue, and im not convinced over the back up PG spot either. Lame off-season, but ya Spurs.

So 4 Million to a guy who'll maybe play in 20 games? Spurs don't play a deep bench, Baynes was limited last year so I expect him to get some minutes.. not a lot of minutes to go around with 7 guards on the floor, 6 bigs and only 2 small forwards.. Ugh, this reeks.